posted July 26, 2010 06:57 PM         

Nothing cold about 5 minutes silence as opposed to what? Explaining?
Why is it that parents always wanna explain everything and leave nothing to the child to figure out? Isn't that called subconscious manipulation?

I see nothing cold in it yet I see a LOT that is controlling and manipulative about telling a child what they did wrong (in your eyes) and then projecting your own sh1t onto them.
Now that's Scientology in a nutshell!

posted July 26, 2010 07:12 PM         

I command you to acknowledge what you did wrong and that is an order
haha
Same sh1t; different day. THIS is exactly the problem with the world. Parents make their child fit their mould. Therefore the world is full of mini me's and kids sothebysrealty narcissistic pattern of "I know best" perpetuates through generations etc etc

posted July 26, 2010 07:21 PM         

I guess you dont meditate daily otherwise you wouldn't have made that comment

Silence is everything.
Forget everything else in life - it's just an illusion. Without silence, one is poor... Very very poor.
To show or guide kids towards silence is the most important gift you can give them. Love has nothing on silence.

I get the sense here that everyone is not really getting Rons point nor really understanding the higher lessons and patterns that he is showing in full. Interpretation can only go as far as the interpreter Is able maybe?

posted July 26, 2010 07:21 PM         

agreed.

posted July 26, 2010 07:29 PM         

Great persuasive power. Just look at that exact conjunction of Sun, MErlin and Anubis in Pisces in 3rd house, squaring ASC.

Pallas conjunct Nessus, also in Pisces, quinkunx Nemesis and squaring Pluto. I think Osiris was also about 23-24 Pisces.

SWindle conjunct Chiron (in 3rd house) opposing MOon and Memnon.

Karma (Of course near to the degree that pops up all the time on LL lately) opposing Neptune.

Mars and Uranus squaring Nemesis

And an exact Kaali-DNA-conjunction, in pioneer-sign Aries. Medusa is also losely conjunct.

posted July 26, 2010 07:30 PM         

There is only one type of silence and that is to still the mind. WTF else do you think Ron is on about? Do you think honestly that a wrong-doing is best handled by pumping the mind full of crappy verbal banter from a parent whom is probably outta their own mind?!

Please read Dianetics and borrow a kid for a year and try your way and the dianetics way. I'd like to see which pu find cruel after observing how the child handles it.

posted July 26, 2010 07:41 PM         

I can see it so clearly so why can't everyone else? There is no punishment in silence for FIVE MINUTES. It's not exactly any different from having a parrot yapping what you've done wrong in your ear nor being sent to your room for the same time period or even more offensive, sitting on the stairs LOL! There's your juvenile punishment!

posted July 26, 2010 07:43 PM         

BTW I edited out the "offended and offensive" comment, because it was unnecessary.
Just like some of your phrases are. I understand that you talk from a point of persuasion, conviction and passion, but calling me "outrageously stubborn" and insinuating that I am "narrowminded" and that I am talking from a "germanic stance" doesn`t help a discussion much.

You asked why noone else sees it as you do?
WEll first of all there are definitely people who see it like you do.
SEcondly other people may have other opinions. That is all.

posted July 26, 2010 07:45 PM         

also Eris is oppose Sun/Node midpoint with 22 minutes of arc separating which can be about discord,opposing/contrasting viewpoints

Sedna is in opposition to the Ascendant within 1 degree which can reflect issues of victimization

Eris is in quincunx to the Ascendant within half a degree which can reflect issues of discord,controversy,opposing/contrasting viewpoints

Mercury-Neptune opposition can also indicate confusion,deception,illusion involving communications including misunderstandings

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted July 26, 2010 07:46 PM         

It's like what kids do to each other when they're mad, "Well, I'm IGNORING you because you did so-and-so." Might as well put your kids in "time out."

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possibly germanic stance and asking you to flip the coin and know your facts by reading him 1st hand instead of listening to your knowledge 3rd hand. I believe this is also not offensive considering my own Germanic roots and blood.

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lol WHAT

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Btw I'm passionate and it's not my problem if everyone construed that passion as offensive.

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posted July 26, 2010 07:58 PM         

DD, I meant understanding what he is trying to convey through silence!
It's a gift not cruelty. Cruelty is when you deprive or abuse a Childs basic rights!
Allowing and creating a space through silence wherein a child can re-evaluate and figure out what just happened is paramount to their own evolvement. It allows for closure of the situation and a solution to be created and carried out. If you pile in and tell them what they've done wrong you take away all the magic and leave the lesson unlearnt.

It's a bit like telling a child how to play with their toys or not allowing them to discover a jigsaw puzzle.

posted July 26, 2010 07:59 PM         

yeah, that was what I was trying to get across with my "two kinds of silence".
Thankfully someone got me.

Glaucus,

no wonder.
Sun and Mercury are on the exact midpoint of Jupiter/Pluto in my chart. on GC to boot.
Hmm, maybe I should create my own cult/ church?

Just kidding.

posted July 26, 2010 08:04 PM         

but yeah...I'd try to avoid debates during posts that were made during Eris configurations. The posts during Eris configurations always seem to generate controvery and discord. With my own very strong Eris energy, I am in danger of getting sucked in if I get involved in the debates. Therefore, it's good for me to stay out of it.

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Raymond Andrews,
President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association
Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted July 26, 2010 08:06 PM         

Well the devil wears prada and doesn't care cos I've been shot with way bigger bullets in way more interesting places so it really doesn't bother me. My immunity is great and I'm up to date with all my inoculations

posted July 26, 2010 08:11 PM         

Surely it's about eith understanding or misunderstanding him? You can swap understanding for interpreting if you like.

Teachings aren't there to do anything but either dig or not dig depending on where you are at mind wise. Opinions which are formed within the mind are kinda invalid no?