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posted October 05, 2010 11:46 PM         

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Lioness,
"I forgot to mention I said "WHAT!" with my eyes... when he didnt speak up, I turned away. so I didnt see his expression, but then I looked back bc he was still standing there looking at me and he rolled his eyes and walked away...

YEAH go swimming... Dont let the tidal wave bring you back to shore!"

I friggin love it...I have a attitude just like you...I can see you saying "what" with your eyes...lol
If I had been there...when you turned away I would have said "why you still standing there? You need to use the phone too?...ok then bye...." LOL

love it!

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posted October 06, 2010 08:35 AM         

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"Meals served on a silver platter"---Well said ,ORBM

x o x x Ami

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posted October 08, 2010 07:45 PM         

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oneruledbymars, I wanted to say thank you for your post on October 5th. "But if you think he is the one lay it all out on the line, and if he thinks you are the one then he will certainly swim with you." "Trust is something they find hard to come by ..." "Act like you do not care when they swim away ... really you don't if you trust. They will always come back."

Since you are a heavy Pisces/Neptune hitter, may you answer this for me? Are you attracted to emotional individuals?

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posted October 09, 2010 01:20 AM         

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I was presently surprised to hear/hang out with the pisces that I thought had swam away. I think my detachment worked to my advantage, after all we both have air Venuses!

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posted October 09, 2010 09:00 AM         

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Psychiatric hospitalization or not, acting out of charity must be a big lie.
Now I feel sacrificing myself entirely to save my Pisces from mental pain, I really wonder what I'm fighting for.
If I'd feel we're fighting for *US* there wasn't any problem - I even couldn't give a damn thing about an eventual downfall (together) then.
I told him I'm fighting for *US* but there's no way for him to confirm it, except being angry with me for asking/needing confirmation because he has too much other things in head.
I need the *US*-moral to persist in this very likely long-lasting battle for healing.
He can only say; "We'll never know what the future will bring" and then I say; "You're right, we'll never know... but it's something completely different from sharing this feeling of fighting for a better-life-TOGETHER"
That's what I'm missing .. not the least guarantee that in future he will be there for me.
I wouldn't survive it if he left me after what I did for him. I'm abandoned once when I got cancer which is the reason that I can't have kids anymore and as long as he likes to stay living in his certain dream of the future to HAVE them etc .. he won't see ME.

I feel like a nurse whom he likes to play and kiss with just for the moment.

I know I'm all he has concerning taking him seriously, fighting WITH him.. but if I'm not being SEEN what can I do?

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posted October 09, 2010 09:43 AM         

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Mir

I wish you were closer. I would love to have you over for tea on my porch.

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posted October 09, 2010 10:15 AM         

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you almost made me cry...

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posted October 09, 2010 12:44 PM         

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(((((((((((hugs)))))))))))) Mir

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posted October 10, 2010 10:06 AM         

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Racole

Just saw the documentary "The Last Words of Michel Houellebecq" on tv here..

So sad, so true so human.... can't remember I've seen such a deep touching doc before.
After seeing it 5 times I think I'm allowed to give it the homage of *real recommender* if you need to dive into some reflections about your life or life in general, and.. not to forget; if you love the sympathetic disillusioned character.

Unfortunately, there's nothing to make clear if you haven't seen it. The visual and auditory aspects make the pic.

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posted October 10, 2010 11:56 AM         

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If You ever want to talk on msn, let me know,Mir
Don't go through it alone!

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posted October 11, 2010 10:16 AM         

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Thanx Ami! I will remember...

Traditional astrology sees hospitals, prisons and psychiatric institutions in this house..

No doubt I've Sun in the 12th

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posted October 11, 2010 10:18 AM         

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Do you have Sun in the 12th, Mir?

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posted October 11, 2010 10:23 AM         

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Yepz.. exactly on the cusp of the 12th, few minutes past (so, not in the 11th)

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posted October 11, 2010 12:53 PM         

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Mr. Pisces is still going strong. 23 days of talking everyday. Since Venus went retro our conversations have gotten really intense (but Venus Rx is triggering our charts like crazy right now. He now also calls before he goes to bed so my voice is the last thing he hears before he goes to bed. He is definitely going back and forth with holding back his feelings- he's concern if he lets it all out that he'll fall head over heals with me, which will lead to heartache/broken heart at the end. (We still haven't slept with each other... Grrr! lol)

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posted October 11, 2010 01:10 PM         

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That is so special, Racole.

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posted October 11, 2010 02:16 PM         

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I don't know what to think... I'm so use to guys trying to get into my pants. LOL. I told him, we have known each other for almost 13 yrs - I think we have known each other long enough to go to the next step. LOL

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posted October 11, 2010 03:35 PM         

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He thinks of you so highly, Racole. That is what it is

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posted October 11, 2010 04:00 PM         

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Dear Mir
How does a 12th house Sun effect your life,if you can say?
Have you had 12th house themes in your life?
If the question is too intrusive,just ignore it
I wonder if a 12th house Sun is similar to an 8th house Sun.
I am thinking it is but the 12th house Sun may be turned inward more deeply.
The 8th house Sun is repressed or delayed in development .
I can say "Amen" to that

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posted October 11, 2010 04:04 PM         

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I have a 12th house Moon (I think)... it's a degree before my 12th house cusp. I have always been curious about it. LOL

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posted October 11, 2010 04:53 PM         

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Ami, for some reason I think 12th house Sun is repressed / hidden while 8th house Sun is more afraid of itself, I don't see it as 'delayed in development' at all.

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posted October 11, 2010 05:00 PM         

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edit
I can't formulate my thoughts, today lol

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posted October 11, 2010 06:47 PM         

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***People with an 8th or 12th house Sun have to be identified with non-worldly, non-superficial objectives. For the 8th, that means that privacy and power are the keystones of personal expression and self-development.

In the 12th, the ego has to be transcended – which can potentially be astonishingly difficult because the level one exposition of that imperative is to be everyone’s doormat – a common complaint levelled both at and by your average Piscean incidentally – but it doesn’t have to be that way.*** http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/07/03/daybreak-and-the-12th-house-sun/

Words are nice but I don't feel the difference yet.
(could be the moment)

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posted October 11, 2010 07:55 PM         

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racole, I'm so glad things are going well. I can't remember which thread it was in - I've had several open here - but I like that it sounds as though he respects you, and is doing his best.

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posted October 12, 2010 08:48 AM         

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My EGO has to be transcended as I have my Sun - also ruler of this house - in the 12th (says the article). Nice task for a Leo

My everlasting struggle in relationships:
EGO versus what it is that I/my true nature really want my/herself

My pisces in the beginning did everything for me, I had him in my pocket so they say.
What's the effect on the long run?
One day he will say 'NO'.
Welcome Ego!
There we have the devil among the tailors.

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posted October 12, 2010 08:50 AM         

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What sign is your 12th house sun in, Mir?

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