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meta_4
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posted October 28, 2010 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Do you seduce? If so, why? If not, why not? How do you feel in the process? How do you go about doing this? Do you find you ever lose interest after you "have" them?

Please give your personal planet placements!

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posted October 28, 2010 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
I feel quite terrible admitting this, really, but I feel I need to discuss it to understand it.

I seduce. Both men and women. Psychologically. And I don't really know why. I'm a very probing person, so I cross boundaries and demand to know absolutely everything about a person. I think somehow, though, this sharing of your "true" self triggers something sexual in us though, because most of my friends, regardless of sex or sexual orientation, have admitted loving me, or wanting me once.

It's happening right now, which is why I'm writing this. I've just met a girl who I'm going to be making a Film with. I can feel her being charmed. From what I know, she's straight, and so am I. SO WHY!!! I don't consciously mean to, but I think subconsciously I'm sure of exactly what I'm doing. She has Venus in Scorpio, conjunct my ASC. A similar thing happened to a girl I know with Moon in Scorpio (I'm a Scorpio Riser). Is this abnormal? I think it must be. I feel so disappointed in myself. I feel manipulative, and a disgrace.

I'm wondering whether astrology has anything to do with it. Whether certain aspects or placements make it more natural for seduction/seducing to occur between two people? Or the will/power to seduce can be found in a chart?

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posted October 28, 2010 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MegaScorp     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting.... what kind of personal questions do you ask people to seduce them? And are you very open about yourself too?

Didn't know getting people to open up about themselves turned them on....

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posted October 28, 2010 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
I seduce by accident, usually badly timed with what I am wanting to achieve.

Ive ran against the grain unintentionally most of my life.

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posted October 28, 2010 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message
"I feel so disappointed in myself. I feel manipulative, and a disgrace."

Interesting the effect of knowing what ones deepest motives are eh.

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posted October 28, 2010 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message
I guess I do seduce...

Especially being single I wear the low cut shirts and if there's someone I'm going to be around who I'm attracted to I'll take more notice in how I look. Also how I act to them. I'll be sure to send them a flirting glance and smile...be more girly.

Kind of funny because I was talking with a co worker about this and she laughed and told me that my idea of flirting was a minimal effort lol. She said I'd need to try harder to get the point across that I'm interested.

But I won't flirt or seduce someone for the hell of it.. I'm after them because I'm interested. Like now there's a guy I flirt with every day but most likely he probably thinks I'm just being social lol... oh well..

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posted October 28, 2010 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
SEduce to what purpose? Seduce to do what?

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posted October 28, 2010 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Who knows! I have been wondering that myself!

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posted October 28, 2010 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
I have Scorpio Moon and Mars. It would have never even occurred to me to ask the question "To seduce to do what?", LOL!! I just do.
To possess their soul of course!

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posted October 28, 2010 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Posession does not exist.

Sag Sun, ASC and Mars with Aqua Moon speaking here

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posted October 28, 2010 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
DD, It does so on planet Scorpio!

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posted October 28, 2010 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
So is it a prison-planet then?


Sorry Meta, I promise I won`t continue derailing your thread.

I think I don´t really understand the idea behind seduction.

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Spanky Butler
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posted October 28, 2010 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
As far as I can see it's about "I WANT" & then onto how Scorpio goes about it.


Re sexual attraction - It's got nothing to do with gender. It's about the soul.

I'd thought you'd figured that out by now?

Gosh you're slow Kinser

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posted October 28, 2010 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
"I seduce. Both men and women. Psychologically. And I don't really know why. I'm a very probing person, so I cross boundaries and demand to know absolutely everything about a person. I think somehow, though, this sharing of your "true" self triggers something sexual in us though, because most of my friends, regardless of sex or sexual orientation, have admitted loving me, or wanting me once."

LOL, Meta, This is so me.
There is a small catch in this for me, though. I can end up being seduced by the very person I am "seducing"!

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posted October 28, 2010 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Posession does not exist.


Taurus sun/mars, aries moon/venus, Leo ASC, 1st house pluto speaking here!

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posted October 28, 2010 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
I do not think I go out of my way to seduce....
it just happens naturally.
I simply just be myself.
Take me as I am...real...no masks...

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posted October 28, 2010 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

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Ami Anne
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posted October 28, 2010 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Meta
I am trying to get a sense of what you are getting at.
I am wondering what you really mean by seduce. Is it more "charm" people ?
If so, are you feeling guilty that you are "manipulating " people in to liking you/doing things for you/being your friend?

Are you feeling guilty that you are "getting" a person under false pretenses.

Please explain what you mean by "seduce".Give examples and details if you can.

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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posted October 28, 2010 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
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posted October 28, 2010 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message
I often seduce the people I take a liking to. It just kind of happens. I think it's my Venus in Taurus.. Meta you have a Taurus Mars right?
Maybe it's the Taurus-Scorpio axis. My Pluto/SN are in Scorpio opp Venus.

--- If so, why?---

Because it's my way of connecting and getting close to someone in the initial stages. I feel like I want and need to know more about them, and people seem to open up easily when seduced lol
I like knowing a lot about people.. Out of curiosity and a willingness to help if needed. I don't use what I know in any way.. But I seem to gather so much info.
It's like I bat my eyelashes.. Figuratively speaking - and there goes the story of their life pouring down.

Maybe it's also a Neptune thing. Neptune is conjunct my Mars and trine Venus.

I feel kind of detached in the process. I only feel curiosity for this new person.

--- How do you go about doing this? ---

There is no set rule at all. It's something I do on an instinctual feeling level. It's not something I plan or pre-think. It really depends on the person I'm seducing because I go along with their waves. I listen a LOT.. I feel out the situation. I get a good idea as to what they want and what they'd like.

I never tire of people. If I initially liked someone enough to desire seducing them.. they often end up being around in my life in some way. I only end things if they upset or hurt me and they seem toxic to me, for whatever reason. Otherwise I like being in touch and I even stay friends with my exes.

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posted October 28, 2010 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know how to describe what i'm doing, mainly because I don't think that how I engage in any one-on-one relationship is wrong. But I know that it often leads to romance blooming from my partner's chest. But I'm not taking any preventative measures to keep this from happening either. So I'm both innocent and guilty.

I'm not overtly setting out to entice anyone. I'm not promiscuous- in fact I am so completely picky that you have to be a superhuman for me to even entertain the thought (Venus opp Neptune/Saturn). But I have a psychological need to know everything about someone- friend, foe, lover, whatever. I just LIKE knowing. SO I ask personal questions. I like taboo topics. People open up, they give me pieces of themselves. And somehow, along the way, this translates into sexual feelings. I can feel it happening. Flirtation happens- he or she will start doing little things differently. They'll get jealous if i talk to someone else, or confess i find someone else attractive. They become territorial. I can only rationalize it's because the connection- which 95% of the time is deeper for them than it is for me (probably because i treat everyone this way)- grants me power over the other person. And this Power, whether it truly exists or not, is then misconstrued for romantic feelings.

I don't know if any of this makes sense. I'm just trying to explain it the way that it's been happening to me. I feel disgusting because I think I should almost be up front about myself from the start. A little notice that reads, "Hi, I'm Meta_4. I want to talk to you about all your personal business, but I'm not interested in you."

Maybe it is a Scorpio thing? We just long for soul connection? I think that's it really. All of these people I'm rooting through like computer files, trying to see if I find anything that matches these sacred, secret computer files that I've suppressed in myself. When I've done this, and found nothing, then I just leave them sit and onto the next. But they're left wondering what the hell just happened.

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posted October 28, 2010 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
Your interest is intense (to them)


You have it right though. Perhaps you should be doing more of the opening up so that this side of yourself is known to them before things start getting tricky hhmm?

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posted October 28, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
MegaScorp,

No. I never really reveal anything about myself. If they ask i'm very vague, and move them back into the spotlight. I only give anything if i feel a connection, and am 500% certain that they will respond to me with the same curiosity and sensitivity I show them.

Starkiss,

It must be a Scorpio thing.

Betty Boop,

From your post I've noted that we're quite different. There is a connection to the Taurus-Scorpio axis, i think (yes, I have Mars in Taurus). How you've said that you just naturally want to get to know someone, and that they normally take some place in your life rings true here.

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posted October 28, 2010 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Spanky,

I know you're right. It's just so... unnatural. It's scary to me. I wouldn't know what to change, or how to start.

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posted October 28, 2010 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
I have to admit Im a seducer.. But I can be passive if I need to be... I prefer the man to be aggressive. But he has to over power me, but I will fight it even though I like it... LOL

I guess thats how Venus Cancer/Leo Mars combines..

Make sense? lol.....Well thats the way it is for me..

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