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SmilingHeart
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posted May 01, 2011 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There seem to be a lot of different topics about aspects/placements who are attractive and magnetic right now.
It would be interesting to know which combinations and aspects in general can make a person appear interesting/magnetic/attractive to others.

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starfox
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posted May 01, 2011 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having Venus in Aquarius and first house has always helped me..


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posted May 01, 2011 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun, Venus, or Jupiter or Uranus in the 1st I'd say.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 01, 2011 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Scorpio

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mintgirl123
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posted May 01, 2011 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto , venus, uranus in first house

And this esp

Mars conjunct neptune.

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted May 02, 2011 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First housers are not very charismatic to seventh housers....charisma is subjective. people with planets in the fourth are god awful to people with planets in the 10th unless there is osmething too offset it...

first house makes one see a part of himself to himself only...seventh house is what you project out on to others that your not aware...

you have ever haerd the song the seventh son?

I'm the one i'm the one
can make your kids dance
the birds and the bees etc...

If your talking about charisma....as in ability to influence others...it would be seventh house

hitler, carl jung, freud....seventh house planets would make people think you are a genius...even if you weren't...

1st house is more the house of me me me....hard to adapt iwth first house plaents that house is ruled by aries aries is cardinal meaning initiatory but no staying power.....if anything it's the third house, the seventh house, and the tenth house which exude charisma.....the kind that influences that is...but they shine through the 1st house lense...having a planet in the 1st house is like having a splotch on the lense.

They say a first house person sticks his nose up and scoffs at lowering themselves....

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posted May 02, 2011 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
would Jupiter placed in a saggitarian ruled 7th house be charismatic then?

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted May 02, 2011 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe so..ricky martin has jupiter there
http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/7j5Xwa5uUyR7.htm

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mercuranian
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posted May 02, 2011 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm, interesting. thanks

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posted May 02, 2011 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we should go higher,like planets in H7,10. Charisma-prominent Sun.

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posted May 02, 2011 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Usually people whose personal planets touch the outer planets give off a special vibe.
Ex: Venus -Neptune, -Uranus or -Pluto; Mars -Neptune, -Pluto (and sometimes -Uranus, a bit too harsh though); etc.

Also, in my experience, planets on the ASC and on the MC tend to make people very popular/attractive.


Ps. I don't have any of those lol That's why I'm just a regular gal

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posted May 02, 2011 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still hold that planets in the 1st house are bunk as popularity makers...to me, based on studies of kids at frats, and at universities....which I have done 1,000's of...it is the third house mercury in virgo which makes one existentialy popular with all crowds...I see it time and time agian, also an aspect of my brohter and he is president of hte alrgest frat in the country...

third house planets though open one up to the channels of superficial communication..

1st house planets make one stubborn and proud....for example....the 12th house 1st house dynamic makes a dictator or plutocrat..

if you politicaly popular sure

but if you mean socialy popular it would have to be 3rd house.

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posted May 02, 2011 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also planets on the descended make one influential......not always popular...

If we look at many influential celebrities charts they are all seventh housers...the 1st house celebrities are usually fleeting lookers, but the self doers and long lasters are seventh house....

that is why there was a song made called the seventh son...or the sevneth sun....listen to it on youtube.

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posted May 02, 2011 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is because a seventh house sun confers the ability to shine down on the other...where as a first hosue sun is the ability to shine down on the self...one might be a self doer inspirational type, howver the seventh houser is the ghandi, the martin luther king, the tom petty, the bob dylan, the hitler...the truely long lasting popularity one sees with legends and hall of famers....but also the ones who rise instantly.

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posted May 02, 2011 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MagnumJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read this once about myself:

Venus in Scorpio: Magnetic effect.

Moon in Leo: Charismatic speaker and performer.

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posted May 02, 2011 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mars in Scorpio


Can't argue with that..!

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stormyvirgo
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posted May 02, 2011 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stormyvirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been told countless times that I am charming/charismatic and the only thing that would probably point to this in my chart is my very tight Venus-Mars conjunction (10 degrees of arc) in Leo.

I only know a couple other people with this particular conjunction (in different signs) but they also seem to draw people in for whatever reason. Maybe it's the blending of the female and masculine sides, I really don't know...

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Ami Anne
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posted May 02, 2011 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux --You are not just a regular gal


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Ami Anne
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posted May 02, 2011 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux --You are not just a regular gal .You are one of the loveliest people I have EVER known.


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Ami Anne
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posted May 02, 2011 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Starfox

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posted May 02, 2011 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
Also planets on the descended make one influential......not always popular...

If we look at many influential celebrities charts they are all seventh housers...the 1st house celebrities are usually fleeting lookers, but the self doers and long lasters are seventh house....

that is why there was a song made called the seventh son...or the sevneth sun....listen to it on youtube.


I think you're right with the seventh house charm. Sun in seventh house seems to be a popular placement for people who project something to others.
Still the first house placements are also quite charismatic (in a very different way).
Those people are adored for the thing they embody. They seem to have a 'special' personality. Often also only admired for their beauty and charm (Venus in first).
You're using Gandhi as an example but he had Mars, Venus and Mercury in first. He is the poster boy of the first housers.

I think first housers have the 'icon status'
most of the time. They're often artists, not politicians.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 02, 2011 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok
Let me try to grab an astrological nut ,here lol
Can we say that planets in the 7th project out to other people?
That would make sense.
Also, perhaps the OWNER cannot feel them but others can.That would make sense ,too.
What do you think?

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posted May 02, 2011 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by roadwarriorsdp:
this is because a seventh house sun confers the ability to shine down on the other...where as a first hosue sun is the ability to shine down on the self...one might be a self doer inspirational type, howver the seventh houser is the ghandi, the martin luther king, the tom petty, the bob dylan, the hitler...the truely long lasting popularity one sees with legends and hall of famers....but also the ones who rise instantly.

Martin Luther King's seventh house is empty..? Tom Petty doesn't even have a known birth time. The only real seventh housers here are Hitler and Bob Dylan (even though Dylan is very 6th house heavy).

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posted May 02, 2011 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok
Let me try to grab an astrological nut ,here lol
Can we say that planets in the 7th project out to other people?
That would make sense.
Also, perhaps the OWNER cannot feel them but others can.That would make sense ,too.
What do you think?


I think we can agree on that.
I don't doubt that the 7th house is important and charming (since it is the house associated with Libra). But magnetic...I'm not sure. I have to look at some other people's charts first. My theorie is that 7th housers are magnetic to those people who need other to project something on. First house is more for those who want to strife inspiration from others. If that makes sense. XD

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Ami Anne
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posted May 02, 2011 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You had a typo there,Smiling.
I ONLY say that cuz I am trying to understand

Did you mean that the first house inspires others as in a leader or a role model?

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