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Topic: If you give a Scorpio a letter?
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Shalimar
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posted May 15, 2011 03:07 PM
  
Oh my goodness Esheep, somehow I missed the part about you moving to Jordan. I get a bad feeling about that. Are you 100% sure about there being round-trip tickets? If your husband isn't abusing you, and you want to give it a try in Jordan, I think it's imperative that you find out if those tickets are round-trip. You DO NOT want to get trapped in a foreign country with no family there to help you in the event you need to end your marriage. IP: Logged |
NickiG
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From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
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posted May 15, 2011 04:05 PM
esheep, is the scorpio guy in a relationship? i noticed a lot of people mentioning it but i never saw you say that he was or wasnt....i think they might just be assuming that, but i want to clear the air before people continue to think what may not be true------------------
What happens on Venus stays on Venus -Nasa IP: Logged |
esheep123
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: brooklyn, ny usa
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posted May 15, 2011 04:51 PM
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esheep123
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posted May 15, 2011 04:51 PM
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esheep123
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From: brooklyn, ny usa
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posted May 15, 2011 04:52 PM
In my first post, I mention we are attached. And by attached, I mean married.We are both in obviously unhappy relationships. Not that it makes anything okay... IP: Logged |
mochai
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From: Charon
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 15, 2011 05:03 PM
Sorry to go back to this..First, I'm a venus in capricorn with a taurus moon and jupiter in capricorn and I have been known to waste money. There is hardly any difference between one way tickets and round trip tickets in price. Secondly, you said it's been a year since he "REALLY hit (you)". And the mental/emotional abuse has come up. I'm going to tell you something really really personal that hurt me a lot when I first heard it. I don't know all my past lives, and really I don't know what the psychic I went to saw. I was told that my soul had a tendency towards abusive situations (scorpio south node in the 4rth). I was told that if I did not break that cycle of abuse in this incarnation and keep perpetraitors from abusing me, that this would continue onto my next incarnations where like a pendulum I'd swing back and forth from being victim to abuser, as is the cycle for most people who accept abuse. You can stop it now or you can stop it many incarnations down the line. God will let you play this out for thousands of years if that's your inclination. It's your choice. The karma with your family, your neighbors, and from all the wide ranging impacts of allowing this abusive situation to occur will be yours. You have a choice to play the victim. You get to decide when you want to stop. Maybe that's why you incarnated aries? Take care of yourself. IP: Logged |
esheep123
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From: brooklyn, ny usa
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 15, 2011 06:50 PM
He was all over my apartment today. Ringing my bell, standing by my door, everything. So I finally bit the bullet and went out there. I looked at him with my innocent eyes (I've been told) and he had absolutely no tell tale sign of ANYTHING. But he kept eye contact and really tried keeping a conversation going. My husband shipped most of our furniture overseas already. He wants his family to see that America has paid off, and that we had nice stuff. So my Scorpio asked me if we still had anything else in the apartment. I told him mostly things that can go in the garbage after we leave. And he wanted to know "when" we are leaving. I told him I didn't know...because I don't know. He did look me in the eye, and did seem to be more relaxed than usual. I didn't do anything different. I'm shy by nature. URRGH. I'm so frustrated. IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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From: US
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 15, 2011 06:57 PM
He's interested in you. He's playing it cool and collected though, wouldn't be surprised if he had an air moon or ascendant - the fact he knows where your feelings are at and was being friendly and inadvertently gauging the circumstances of your departure.. definitely. Try not to be so shy! Anyway, I'm very worried about this Jordan trip. How long are you guys staying there? Are any of your family members there as well? I feel like you should tell your mother/other parental figure in your life your fears so if something ridiculous happens they can immediately send you a ticket to get you back to the States. It's just extremely worrying given your horrible track record with your husband. IP: Logged |
esheep123
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From: brooklyn, ny usa
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 15, 2011 07:03 PM
I really want to leave him. I am thinking of the possibilities in my head at all times. my parents would welcome all four of us, (me and my three little stooges), but for how long?We are a burden to anyone, and I have to get my shizz together. I have thought out the possibilities. Just that first step is killing me. And the worse part, I do tell my husband my thoughts, my worries, my fears, the unhappiness of it all, and he just wants to hurt my feelings. If I say I'm starting to really hate you, he doesn't ask "why?" He says, "I swear, me too." Whether he means it or not is anyone's guess. All things point to "leave" but I can't really really imagine doing it. IP: Logged |
Shalimar
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Registered: May 2011
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posted May 15, 2011 07:04 PM
Your apartment is almost empty, but you still don't know when you're leaving? Is your husband making the travel plans & not giving you the details? You are a grown woman, and your husband should be giving you enough respect to tell you WHEN you may possibly moving to the other side of the planet. Gah,If my own circumstances would allow it, I'd let you & your boys live with me. Please call your family. I am so worried about you!IP: Logged |
esheep123
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From: brooklyn, ny usa
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 15, 2011 07:07 PM
Thank you Shalimar. I believe you would. THanks.And my mom and dad know, and are basically leaving me to make that choice. THey have already watched me walk into hell once before. Very hands off. Both heavy air. IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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From: US
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 15, 2011 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by esheep123:
I really want to leave him. I am thinking of the possibilities in my head at all times. my parents would welcome all four of us, (me and my three little stooges), but for how long?We are a burden to anyone, and I have to get my shizz together. I have thought out the possibilities. Just that first step is killing me. And the worse part, I do tell my husband my thoughts, my worries, my fears, the unhappiness of it all, and he just wants to hurt my feelings. If I say I'm starting to really hate you, he doesn't ask "why?" He says, "I swear, me too." Whether he means it or not is anyone's guess. All things point to "leave" but I can't really really imagine doing it.
You are deserving of happiness, to say you would be a burden to your own parents is silly, my friend. Given the abuse and degredation you've been put through all these years, you are rightfully deserving of a safe haven and if your parents can provide that (you said that they could) you have every right to capitalize on that. How couldn't they understand, you know? Once you're placed in a healthy environment away from your husband constantly shutting down your natural inclination to question things, you'll feel a lot of peace within yourself and tangible ideas on how to shape your future without him will come with ease. On top of that, your children are in the toxic environment right along with you. Children can always sense when there's hostility between their parents. Maybe a separation will give them a breath of relief, too. You have nothing to lose, here. You're unhappy, and to do something about it and assert your independence will give you freedom. Your husband is such an ass and doesn't deserve to have control over anyone, especially someone like you. You have a lot of inner strength, you're very eloquent, and your heart always seems to be in the right place. You don't have to put up with this, no one can make you do anything you don't want to do. Look at the rewards you're already experiencing by taking action and being honest with your feelings about the Scorpio neighbor, you have tangible proof about his curiosity in your life that's maybe way more blatant then ever before. There's no where to go but up if you believe in yourself and that you have a right to your feelings. IP: Logged |
Shalimar
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posted May 15, 2011 07:21 PM
Esheep, I CAN relate. Many moons ago, when my daughter was only a year old, I decided to leave her dad. Like your husband, my ex was very controlling, and had already spent two years of misery with him. One day, he had to leave town for business. My best friend & my parents came and helped me pack up everything that belonged to me & my daughter & I went to stay with my parents. My ex came home to a half empty house & went into a rage. He screamed at me, threatened me, called my parents house relentlessly to harass me, but it was too late. He gave up after a few weeks. I had nothing. I was a grown adult with a small baby living with her parents again. But I was finally happy. It took me two years to get back out on my own, but every little accomplishment I made was MINE, and I felt very proud. I had no one to criticize me & belittle me, and the feeling of "freedom" was enormous. And when I did start dating again, I made much better choices. I know my situation isn't exactly the same as yours, but I DO understand your fears. You CAN give yourself financial stability. It just won't happen overnight.IP: Logged |
wal2
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posted May 15, 2011 08:03 PM
Hi, esheep I hope I'm not being too blunt here but I just revisited this thread and I've been reading the replies...have you considered the idea that your neighbor may sense this energy between you and your husband, and his nonverbal messages may not be as much romantic interest as it is fear over your safety? I'm getting a very strong sense from reading your posts that he's concerned with your well-being. He seems to feel a lot of anxious energy over your big move, as do you, and all of us here at LL. I don't want you to think I'm judging because I can only go by what I read and my intuition, but I am just reaching out to you from one human beingn to another. This is my honest plea: Please seek out a safe neutral place and consider staying there. My feeling is that you are going to be in great danger if you go along with your husband's plans to move. I know, doing anything besides that sounds impossible to do at the present moment, but it's a matter of saving your life and sanity, and I think that is more important than preserving the fragility of your relationship with your husband. And I think you know as well, deep down, trying to preserve it is a moot point anyway. Sorry, I don't want to make things more difficult for you. No matter what other feelings are present between you and your neighbor, I am sure he cares about you in a non-romantic way as well. It is so very obvious to me that he is desperately trying to reach you and touch you while he still can. Talk to him and let him help you and protect you. You can't keep shouldering this by yourself. Good luck. IP: Logged |
esheep123
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From: brooklyn, ny usa
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 15, 2011 08:36 PM
What kind of danger? he's not gonna kill me or anything. is he?IP: Logged |
esheep123
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From: brooklyn, ny usa
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 15, 2011 08:52 PM
wal2, I would have agreed with you fully, about Scorpio and his desire to just protect me on the friend level. But he did do things to make me believe it was love. He used the words "I love you" in a message. He told my husband, "Don't go, the kids love you." No kid loves my husband. I am really starting to think that it's enough. I should leave him. I can imagine it right now. Going to my parents house, and feeling safe. I am so scared, though. I should pray more. I feel so alone. Thank you everyone for your well wishes and input. Thank you. IP: Logged |
mochai
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From: Charon
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 15, 2011 08:59 PM
I'd stay just to be near scorpio guy. The things you were describing sound insanely adorable.Oh yeah, I'm praying for you too. IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 15, 2011 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by esheep123:
wal2, I would have agreed with you fully, about Scorpio and his desire to just protect me on the friend level. But he did do things to make me believe it was love. He used the words "I love you" in a message. He told my husband, "Don't go, the kids love you." No kid loves my husband. I am really starting to think that it's enough. I should leave him. I can imagine it right now. Going to my parents house, and feeling safe. I am so scared, though. I should pray more. I feel so alone. Thank you everyone for your well wishes and input. Thank you.
Please consider leaving him in all seriousness. If you go to your parents and they try to brush you off, don't listen to them. They don't know what you've been through. Only you know just how miserable you've been and thats enough. No one understands you better then yourself, and you have to insist that as a grown woman and mother of three children, you've had enough. Sometimes we don't always get the encouragement we need in our darkest moments and that can be very, very discouraging, but you're setting up a pathway for a much brighter future if you keep pushing forward with your insistence that you deserve more. I believe in you. IP: Logged |
crabbypatty
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posted May 15, 2011 09:07 PM
esheep, I can arrange for you to have a phone reading with my good friend, who is a phenomenal psychic and medium... she will do it for me. I will pay her and you can consider it a gift. My finances are good now, so don't worry. Or, if you choose to repay in the future, you can, on your own timetable. You can ask her any question you want. I promise not to tell her anything about your situation. This will be unbiased and honest. If you want to do this, let me know on this forum and I will briefly post my email address for you (before erasing it). IP: Logged |
esheep123
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From: brooklyn, ny usa
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posted May 15, 2011 09:50 PM
I've actually refrained from using psychics because of my religious upbringing. But thank you so much for the offer crabbypatty.IP: Logged |
wal2
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posted May 15, 2011 10:20 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to say he wasn't interested in you. I just think that right now, he is trying to reach out for your safety because he cares deeply about you, before he can concern himself with furthering his romantic connection to you. If you can go to your parents' home, GREAT. Please, please consider it. I'm also not trying to say your husband will kill you, but your life is in danger in the way that you are basically allowing him to have full control of you. I don't want to burden you once again but I feel like you have the access to the last threads of support right now, and after you move you will lose them. This is a very serious and life-changing decision, but it's either change your life or ruin it. Like I said earlier, your life is the most important thing in this entire situation. And I do sense that your husband is a violent threat, he has been violent towards you before right? Please go to your parents or any other safe, neutral home and seek safety while you still can. If you just can't bring yourself to do this at this moment, go to your neighbor who has already shown how much he cares about you. He can help you find the strength to rescue yourself if you let him. Maybe, that's his purpose for entering your life, and falling for you despite the circumstances....you don't want to miss out on what the God, or the universe or whatever power you believe, is trying to deliver to you. Please keep praying. Once again, good luck, and I'm keeping you in my thoughts as well. IP: Logged |
saronna
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posted May 15, 2011 10:51 PM
i have scoripio and remember having this crush on this guy who is a gemini and telling him that i had a crush on him. he flat out told me that he didn't love me and i was like i don't love you too so what we can still kiss. i only had a crush on him it's not like i wanted to marry him or anything like that but he was the only guy with alot of girls house and had chrisma as all the girls had a crush on him but he's a player. But, now i have a capri soulmate who chased me around the world and searched the whole world to find me and i am not afraid of real love anymore. What i learn't from gemini crush was that if it's a crush it's not real love and it's better to wait for real love than settle for a crush. something else is usually going on when it's a crush, it's another forked road.IP: Logged |
crabbypatty
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posted May 16, 2011 06:50 AM
No worries, esheep, I've heard that from plenty of people, that their religion disapproves.I just think that your husband's intentions are not really to "give it a whirl" and see how it goes in Jordan if he's shipped all the furniture there. Somehow I believe he fully intends to stay there. Just a hunch. And you will be away from your parents and from any support system, living with this man you already think very little of, in a country where your accounting degree may get you nowhere. You can still back out of this, and I believe if your parents are normal people, they won't mind having you and the kids living with them for a year or two as long as you are looking for gainful employment and announce your intention to leave when practicable. Your not wanting to be a burden might result in you missing out on some golden opportunities. I don't know what more I could say. Except.... He can divorce you in Jordan in a Sharia court and what support will the Sharia judges enforce? Will you be trapped in Jordan? He can beat you in Jordan and good luck getting him prosecuted there. IP: Logged |
RMChex
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Registered: Apr 2011
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posted May 16, 2011 07:12 AM
eSheep - echoing what most people have said; going to Jordan doesn't sound like the right thing to do at all. You think it is hard making a break now by yourself - how much harder would it be to do it from there? Subtely book 4 flights from Jordan to America, pack 4 lots of stuff and get your passports, get to the airport and get on a flight back here? If you go there, you are almost certainly stuck.At the very least, tell your husband that you can't go now. If he wants to go, you can stay with your parents and see how you feel in a month or so but you can't go with him, as it doesn't feel right. You have ONE life. Don't waste it being unhappy. This is not a dress rehearsal. (((((hugs))))) P.S. I believe Scorpio is holding back because he doesn't want to be held responsibile by you or anyone for you not going to Jordan. He wants you to make the choice yourself, and have the courage to leave your husband. (my opinion anyway) ------------------
Where possible, give people a piece of your heart, not a piece of your mind. IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted May 16, 2011 07:58 AM
esheep,You know what? Screw marital counseling. Leave your husband. He can keep all of the furniture and move to Jordan himself. Grab your kids and move to your parents' home. Tell them the truth about your situation. Eventually, you will get back on your feet so it isn't likely you'll live with your parents forever. I doubt your parents would find you and your kids a burden! But if you are really concerned about being a burden, just do what you can to help around the house and actively search for a job. Show your parents you are making an effort to start a new life. I know you are in a very difficult situation and I wish you didn't have to go through this, but you need to be strong for you and your kids. Make sure you that you have your belongings packed (take only the most important stuff for now) before you tell your husband that you want a divorce. He's going to be angry and you want to be able to get out of the house immediately. Please don't go to Jordan. Kick his a** to the curb and move on. Don't let him run your life. I wish you great happiness and peace. Please take care of yourself. **Hugs** IP: Logged | |
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