posted March 01, 2016 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by HoN3YDrOpS:
Please list what you commonly know that is dark about the sun sign Aries Men, even better from personal experience with one or more...Also state what your sun sign is a well

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posted March 01, 2016 06:36 PM            

Both my grandmother and a male cousin have an Aries sun and merc, and Taurus venus (different degrees, however). But Granny has a lot of Gemini in her chart (both planets and rising) along with a strong dash of Leo (including Pluto), while my cousin has a lot of Scorpio and Sag (both planets and ASC) in his, though he does have some Libra and Gemini as well (just a strong dash). It seems my cousin is more moody, which may be his 8H Cancer Mars exerting more moodiness, or it could just be I never knew Granny when she was his age (perhaps she was more moody in her youth, and she has a Cancer moon, but maybe she hides it more, perhaps out of pride). Both are strong-willed and outspoken...which may be why they clashed a lot (OTOH, he chose to live with Granny when he didn't have to, and Granny was more easygoing in some ways, she just didn't take any crap--my cousin can be that way, too, hard to define the difference between them, perhaps the biggest is that he sometimes, especially as a boy, liked to start crap for his own amusement, but that was probably his Sag aspects at work more than his Aries).

posted March 02, 2016 12:37 AM            

Aries men do make me mad but different ones for different reasons. Come to think of it all of the Aries men I've known have had Sagittarius rising or Sag moon or both.

With me personally I brought out their argumentative nature, and I got mad at one because he was always acting like a goofy ******* when I just wanted to chill out and have grown-up conversations (meaning normal, regular conversations for our age).

We do have a tendency to be in our own lives and not deviating unless it's really really cool or necessary. Once an Aries is bored they'll disappear (I do it, all four of the Aries I know do it) but I suspect we don't think it counts because we have muscle-emotional memories when it comes to people we've let in. So we may not talk to you for months but if you have a connection with an Aries you can always call them for help and they'll be there.

They're kind of picky with the way they have to control everything, but you also have to be super enthralling in some fashion so they stick around. They want to be your favorite but would rather not put in the effort to make you feel the same way.

Aries men in particular are completely devoid of empathizing until you break it down for them step by step, which can be humiliating in itself.

posted March 02, 2016 01:33 AM            

Granny was incredibly naive in her youth and has some real horror stories of when she tried to coast on "good vibes," though I'm Plutonian enough to be fascinated by it, no matter how tragic (and infuriating). I not only came to realize a lot about Mom (who suffered terribly as a child in part because of her mother's naivete), but also things like why feminism was so insanely angry back in the 70s. Reading about it and all it sounds crazy, but if I put up with the stuff many women did back then, including what Granny did, I'd have been burning some bras, too.

It's odd, Granny sorta has hippie sensibilities even to this day, but she can't stand hippies (the kind of the 60s and 70s) because of her experiences. I bet if I explained the Law of Attraction to her that she'd react poorly, as some of the things she was told by some...misguided (being charitable here)....hippies sounds similar, and that cost her (and Mom and other relatives of mine) dearly.

But she's not badly selfish today, just much wiser than she was in her youth, and carries a lot of painful regret for the stupidity (naivete) of her youth, and a desire to make up for it, some of which she can never make up for. And yet bad people would call her selfish because they can no longer manipulate her as she has wised up (that is, selfish people would call her selfish), but that would no longer work.

posted March 03, 2016 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
@hanarama, how do you break it down step by step with an Aries male without completely hurting their feelings and humiliating them? in a light hearted way? Aggressive isn't my style, he has Aries sun/Venus in the 12th so he's a little sensitive.

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posted March 03, 2016 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusGal:

Here are the darkside traits of my Aries ex boyfriend:

Selfish. Compulsive Liar. Cheater. Needy. Manipulative. Self-Centered. Lack of Empathy. Attention ***** . Very Impulsive. Childish. Stubborn. Two-Faced. Only his way is right. Doesnt compromise. Controlling, etc...

His darkside has come out and its ugly! He was the total opposite and the sweetest guy until one day his new persona came out.

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posted March 03, 2016 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I wish more aspiring astrologers would learn when and how to separate people from signs. *huff.*

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posted March 03, 2016 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannaramaa:
[b]I wish more aspiring astrologers would learn when and how to separate people from signs. *huff.*

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posted March 03, 2016 11:07 PM            

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Originally posted by mooninaries94:

Zodiac influence people. The whole chart, not an aspect alone, of course. I was talking by my own experience, I don't think all Aries men are the same, as well as any other sign.

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Yes but people are not their signs. They may have an affect but they don't predict anything

posted March 03, 2016 11:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Your Granny was an Aries? Whoa, I didn't know that! My chart is split between Aries and Sag too, but the little earth I have (Cap rising and Taurus Venus) keep me grounded enough to not get into much trouble. I think I became a lot more selfish as I got older, in the sense that I always put myself first, in my younger years I was very naive and much too generous with people who didn't deserve it. The generosity part hasn't changed but I'm more selective and perhaps more moody about it because I really don't like being taken advantage of. Not everyone has pure motives like Aries do.

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Me, too.

posted March 03, 2016 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
First, what are you breaking down? Also adding that I meant humiliating for the person having to break it down step by step, but Insuppose an Aries definitely wouldn't like to feel patronized either.

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posted March 04, 2016 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
Like when they do something that doesn't gel with you, how do you go about telling them without hurting them coz this one is sensitive. i've realised how truly sensitive aries can be deep down lol

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If he has Sun and Venus in the 12th house he a) yeah will probably be more sensitive than your average fire sign, and b) may not realize he's doing anything wrong. I've known a few 12th house Suns and they've never seen themselves clearly for good or bad.

It just has to do with having good communication skills, so you could say "Hey remember when you did this _____________?" and then explain why you didn't like it, and compare it to something they could relate to. It's not necessarily about speaking to them like they're 5, but rather being direct. Direct and aggressive are two different things, but I doubt you'll have to worry about that.

posted March 04, 2016 06:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Yes but people are not their signs. They may have an affect but they don't predict anything

People do what they want
And environments change them they may go through a phase where they suffer slight PTSD but it isn't forever and you can't judge people by their sign all of the time

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posted March 04, 2016 10:28 AM            

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(In response to DM)

Granny was incredibly naive in her youth and has some real horror stories of when she tried to coast on "good vibes," though I'm Plutonian enough to be fascinated by it, no matter how tragic (and infuriating). I not only came to realize a lot about Mom (who suffered terribly as a child in part because of her mother's naivete), but also things like why feminism was so insanely angry back in the 70s. Reading about it and all it sounds crazy, but if I put up with the stuff many women did back then, including what Granny did, I'd have been burning some bras, too.

It's odd, Granny sorta has hippie sensibilities even to this day, but she can't stand hippies (the kind of the 60s and 70s) because of her experiences. I bet if I explained the Law of Attraction to her that she'd react poorly, as some of the things she was told by some...misguided (being charitable here)....hippies sounds similar, and that cost her (and Mom and other relatives of mine) dearly.

But she's not badly selfish today, just much wiser than she was in her youth, and carries a lot of painful regret for the stupidity (naivete) of her youth, and a desire to make up for it, some of which she can never make up for. And yet bad people would call her selfish because they can no longer manipulate her as she has wised up (that is, selfish people would call her selfish), but that would no longer work.

Yet she's not bitter, just sadder and wiser. She suffers visible osteoporosis and shows other signs of aging, but she's stubbornly independent and has a very sharp mind with a lot of hard won common sense.

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posted March 06, 2016 01:17 PM            

Dishonest (can be the biggest liars you'll ever meet)
Manipulative
Vengeful
Cold-hearted bordering on sociopathic

posted March 06, 2016 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Any sign or person can be those #facepalm. We should give context beyond those characteristics if we want it to be specific to Aries. For example...an Aries will push to be right when they feel personally attacked. Whereas a Cancer may hide out in their shell. An Aries wouldn't hide and they'd continue arguing til you gave up or apologized. They want to be right and they wsnt their way.

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Ooh, do enlighten me. How do Aries behave when they exhibit their shadow side? I listed the characteristics of several (10+) real life Aries men that I know in real life.

Most of what I've seen on websites that describe Aries men is not what I've observed in real life. This doesn't mean those websites are wrong, but I gave my response to this thread based on my own personal observations.

Newsflash: any characteristic that anyone lists here can be found in any zodiac sign. I merely listed a trend of characteristics I noticed in several real life Aries men (not what I found on a website) and you respond with a face palm? Really?

posted March 06, 2016 05:56 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I didn't say your interpretations were flat out wrong, but what about aspects or house placements those guys had? It's whenever frustration everyone feels whenever a person says "Oh all Aquariuses cheat!" No...because the house and aspect, and individual free will influenced that person. It's not a personal attack against you, Astra, I'm just being a little bit more pushy for a more thorough examination overall.

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Then why didn't you simply ask about synastry? Not once did you mention this in your reply to my original post. I also never said all Aries behave the way I mentioned in my post. I even explicitly stated that many Aries are lovely people.

Asking someone to elaborate is perfectly fine, but the first sentence of your reply was flat out rude.

To answer your question, all of the Aries men I have encountered had fire moons (Leo or Aries) and very little water in their chart. Most of my synastry with them had good aspects: moon sextile mercury, venus trine pluto, sun sextile uranus, venus trine uranus, and venus trine moon to name a few. The negative aspects were my saturn square their mars, my pluto square their mars and my neptune square their sun.

Synastry only shows part of the relationship between two people. You could pick two people with identical charts and it's not unusual for them to have very different personalities. People often choose to utilize their charts in different ways. That's why you can never say that a chart absolutely means so-and-so will grow up to be a sociopath or so-and-so would definitely fall in love with this person. I've seen synastry that looked flawless on paper, but there was zero chemistry in real life. In fact, when I tried setting up a friend with someone, I had thought that based on synastry and even shared interests that they would be a good match. Instead, they despised each other at first glance.

Sorry, I got a bit off topic. Back to the Aries men. The Aries men that I personally know have ended up backstabbing multiple innocent people. Once again, this does NOT mean that all Aries men are untrustworthy. I'm speaking strictly about the Aries men that I know.

posted March 06, 2016 06:10 PM            

Aries people love it when you compliment them and want to be the best looking of all when in a group or room. They get insecure if someone is better looking than them. An Aries sun friend once told me that she wanted to be wed in this particular church because the aisle that she will walk on is long, lol. She wanted to have her own Wikipedia page too, not noticing that it's only for famous people. She sulked a bit when we told her it's impossible for her to have one.