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AstrologicalMan
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posted June 28, 2011 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lunatic:
Even if a woman is provocative and likes to use the power she has with her influence on you, you should never force her to have sex with you. Rapists only flatter themselves that the victim likes it. Sick. It's the only thing I can say.

A woman knows how men are. When she dresses to entice, sex is already on her mind. Smart women avoid certain places and circumstances.

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lunatic
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posted June 28, 2011 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
A woman knows how men are. When she dresses to entice, sex is already on her mind. Smart women avoid certain places and circumstances.

I'll be honest. You're ******* disgusting men. I'm done with you

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pixelpixie
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posted June 28, 2011 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just like 'smart men' avoid female populated forums when flexing their inferiority complexes and clearly, short-d*ck stature.

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AstrologicalMan
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posted June 28, 2011 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pixelpixie:
Just like 'smart men' avoid female populated forums when flexing their inferiority complexes and clearly, short-d*ck stature.

Theres no need for insults babe. Stay on topic.

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pixelpixie
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posted June 28, 2011 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because calling someone Hitler and stupid because of their beliefs and gender is not insulting?

babe. hahahahahahaha

omigosh. way to lay it on the feminist topic.I was staying on topic. I said smart men wouldn't still be posing here.
Do you have any opinions of the astrological possibilities that would create a 'feminist'
perspective? Your Y chromosome is making my X chromosomes cry. Boo hoo. I am so emotional. Too bad my business acumen is so pitiful.

Good thing i have this cute litle dog to carry around in this Gucci bag. That's all I'm good for after all, isn't it?
Oh wait.. I am also a cougar if I am past the age of 25.

And you want no limiting labels?

This is fun. It's fun to be so much smarter than you and to know it.

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pixelpixie
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posted June 28, 2011 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:

AstrologicalMan, feminists do not hate men. Ignorant people may think that, but ignorant people do not speak for feminists. YOU for instance, don't speak for me. I have never been abused or molested and I identify as a feminist. That's a myth propagated by people who do not take feminist issues seriously. I don't hate MEN, I hate the patriarchal structure in our society that says that men and women should be treated differently, that women make up %51 of the population, do 2/3s of the world's work and yet hold 1% of the wealth. ONE PERCENT. If you don't see how that's unfair, you're part of the problem.


To get back on topic, I am so with you on this.

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AstrologicalMan
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posted June 28, 2011 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a problem. I think that it is possible that it stems from Zionism or the elites at the top.

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PlutoSquared
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posted June 28, 2011 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
That is a problem. I think that it is possible that it stems from Zionism or the elites at the top.

AstrologicalMan, you externalize and project a lot of things on other people, for ex. Feminists, women, Zionists, The "elite".

Ever consider the problem lies closer to home... you're missing a chip of empathy/sensitivity (for women, but not limited to)?

Just wondering...

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AstrologicalMan
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posted June 28, 2011 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
AstrologicalMan, you externalize and project a lot of things on other people, for ex. Feminists, women, Zionists, The "elite".

Ever consider the problem lies closer to home... you're missing a chip of empathy/sensitivity (for women, but not limited to)?

Just wondering...


I Love women. I teach them how to love themselves.

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posted June 28, 2011 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's not get philosophical. You didn't answer my question...

Yes or No... have you considered the source?

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amowls**
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posted June 28, 2011 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not going to even bother. Pixelpixie already laid it out for you why you're wrong (and so have all the other posters in this thread). I'm too tired to deal with you.

Edit: if you think that rape victims "ask for it", you don't love women... Whateverthehell that means. You really are ignorant, no matter how "enlightened" you believe yourself to be. It's just laughable how many tired antifeminist tropes you fell into: calling women "babe", victim blaming, calling us Nazis, etc. You really are a stereotype.

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Venus
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posted June 28, 2011 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm moving this to Aqua Rising where it belongs..

*edit* i dont have the privileges, will ask randall to do it later

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KarkaQueen
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posted June 28, 2011 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
"movement". That sounds a little Hitler to me. What exactly are you doing to make change possible? Complaining about it on an internet forum isn't going to really accomplish anything. Sorry to break it to you.

Women who usually get raped are the ones who are asking for it. Believe it or not there are certain women who are actually turned on by the idea of dressing up provocative and then having a man force himself on her. *A man never rapes a strong confident woman.* You can't change nature.

Men have better jobs than women because currently, men are smarter than women are from a business stand point. You can't change women this way. You can't force women to have a more business orientated mind, it just doesn't work that way.Currently, Women are generally too emotional to ever be able to surpass men in the business or political world.

I'm not victimized by anyone. I find the feminist "movement" laughable.

Women who really change things don't consider themselves feminists.


THATS IT. You are totally doing this for the lulz. You seem a bit sexist, and no I'm not a feminist. You do realize some guys rape because of power not sex....? Oh, dear, even the name "Astrological Man" proves your cockiness. This whole thread is so lulzy.

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amowls**
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posted June 28, 2011 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its not even lulzy because its so tired.

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Venus
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posted June 28, 2011 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astro man, unlike my fellow female friends, i do not fret to what you say, to me its just meaningless chatter coming from a meaningless person..

your point of view belongs to the 1800s so i will assume u were transferred here by some time machine and that is the only logical explanation for your stupid, oops i mean strange, opinion. Men of the 21st century understand the role of women and respect it, 3rd wave feminism does not encourage hatred towards men instead it encourages the positive and progressive role of women n the economy AND in the domestic field if they so choose..

Overall, i applaud your pitiful attempt for some female attention.. Bravo!

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AstrologicalMan
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posted June 28, 2011 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
Let's not get philosophical. You didn't answer my question...

Yes or No... have you considered the source?


What do you mean?

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AstrologicalMan
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posted June 28, 2011 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
I'm not going to even bother. Pixelpixie already laid it out for you why you're wrong (and so have all the other posters in this thread). I'm too tired to deal with you.

Edit: if you think that rape victims "ask for it", you don't love women... Whateverthehell that means. You really are ignorant, no matter how "enlightened" you believe yourself to be. It's just laughable how many tired antifeminist tropes you fell into: calling women "babe", victim blaming, calling us Nazis, etc. You really are a stereotype.


I will bring you further. Maybe, I am making you think that I am a sterotype.

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AstrologicalMan
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posted June 28, 2011 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venus:
astro man, unlike my fellow female friends, i do not fret to what you say, to me its just meaningless chatter coming from a meaningless person..

your point of view belongs to the 1800s so i will assume u we're transferred here by some time machine and that is the only logical explanation for your stupid, oops i mean strange, opinion. Men of the 21st century understand the role of women and respect it, 3rd wave feminism does not encourage hatred towards men instead it encourages the positive and progressive role of women n the economy AND in the domestic field if they so choose..

Overall, i applaud your pitiful attempt for some female attention.. Bravo!


Venus. Listen to my music and tell me what you think. www.soundcloud.com/nibirunon

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Venus
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posted June 28, 2011 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
Venus. Listen to my music and tell me what you think. www.soundcloud.com/nibirunon

um, no i won't, but thanks anyway!

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KarkaQueen
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posted June 28, 2011 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
Venus. Listen to my music and tell me what you think. www.soundcloud.com/nibirunon

Interesting gossip, Astrological-bot.

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AstrologicalMan
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posted June 28, 2011 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstrologicalMan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venus:
um, no i won't, but thanks anyway!

You want to be a feminist but you can't take a friendly song?

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pixelpixie
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posted June 28, 2011 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you like my song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

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PlutoSquared
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posted June 28, 2011 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
What do you mean?

I was wondering if you have ever considered the possibility that you lack empathy for women? That there is something wrong with you.

For example, you lack empathy for rape victims (seeing them as willing participants, rather than victims of crime)???

This is a pretty simple, solid question.

If you can't answer it, fine. Just HAD to ask.

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KarkaQueen
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posted June 28, 2011 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
....Why do I always seem to turn off sexist trolls? Rofl. I never get their attention to reply to me unless I say something really, really offensive.

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 28, 2011 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As hard as it is to acknowledge;

within psychoanalysis/psychology, there is the idea that women do in fact have powerful subconscious stuff going on that makes them more susceptible to rape. I don't think that the term "asking for it" is appropriate in the slightest and get annoyed by it. Many women will be attacked and not look remotely provocative....

But; I also get annoyed by the fact that women aren't given information that can ultimately lead to empowerment which would reduce the possibility of rape.

Please do more research into the whole victim/victimiser stuff. Things aren't as clear cut as they seem.

As for feminism...no I'm not. I see both sides of that fence and I know that society puts far too much pressure on men and women alike to follow the rules of the media.

What makes a feminist? Maybe a strong uranus or 11th house?

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