posted June 28, 2011 01:39 PM            

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I know that society puts far too much pressure on men and women alike to follow the rules of the media.

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1) Feminists know that the patriarchy hurts men as well as women.

posted June 28, 2011 06:25 PM            

I mean - if you ask the average Joe working down at the gas station.. his interpretation of this word will be sooooo waaaay off.. that it's impossible to even have a conversation.

posted June 28, 2011 06:31 PM            

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Sheer stupidity

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Now.. I wouldn't say that... Now.

I can appreciate what feminism has achieved. I wouldn't be able to study in my chosen area.. if it wasn't for feminism. I'd be out getting cooking and hairdressing classes.

posted June 28, 2011 06:33 PM            

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I think it's a shame that more people don't argue semantics.

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posted June 28, 2011 07:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Anemone:
Sheer stupidity (in reply to the topic title)
AstrologicalMan I salute you

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posted June 28, 2011 09:17 PM            

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within psychoanalysis/psychology, there is the idea that women do in fact have powerful subconscious stuff going on that makes them more susceptible to rape. I don't think that the term "asking for it" is appropriate in the slightest and get annoyed by it. Many women will be attacked and not look remotely provocative....

But; I also get annoyed by the fact that women aren't given information that can ultimately lead to empowerment which would reduce the possibility of rape.

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I have to disagree with this. A woman could be lying in the street naked and unconscious and completely helpless. If a man rapes her, he is still a rapist. He's responsible for his own actions.

All the information in the world that's given to women is meaningless if we do not also, as a society, tell men to NOT RAPE.

I also think the idea that women can prevent their own rapes is a fallacy. It's something society makes up because it's too uncomfortable to think about men you know being rapists. Unfortunately, the reality is that rapists do blend easily into society. Statistically, a woman is most likely to be raped in a home, by someone she knows. The "stranger in a dark alley" rape is a in reality a very small proportion of rapes.

posted June 28, 2011 09:32 PM            

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All the information in the world that's given to women is meaningless if we do not also, as a society, tell men to NOT RAPE.

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posted June 28, 2011 10:32 PM            

A Radical Profeminist...
http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/

posted June 28, 2011 11:50 PM            

Originally posted by Anemone:

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Sheer stupidity (in reply to the topic title)
AstrologicalMan I salute you

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Originally posted by vertiver

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Excuse me, but your personally insulting me and my beliefs. Feminism no longer has a stigma placed on it.

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I was congratulating vertiver's post, same as you...I thought I made that clear.
Anemone is a moderator! I asked where the heck this person would moderate with that attitude.

Do you really think I would mean vertiver or you? I meant anemone. I thought I made that clear.

haha... have you even seen my stance on this thread? i would think it was obvious.

I was high fiving.

posted June 28, 2011 11:51 PM            

Feminism is NOT sheer stupidity. Apparently, people STILL THINK THAT IT IS A RAPE VICTIMS FAULT FOR BEING RAPED. Women make less than men. Women do more work than men. I can repeat myself over and over. Without feminism women wouldn't have the right to vote. Women wouldn't be able to be CEOs. Women wouldn't be able to own property. I could go on and on.

Just because we're almost there (equal) doesn't mean that the work is over. Feminism is not stupid.

I wonder why Anemone is even a mod, they have less than 200 posts and are clearly ignorant. There is nothing to salute in AstrologicalMan's posts. None. Zip. He can't even back up his own claims. If you actually read anything he said, you wouldn't agree with him, unless you're full of "sheer stupidity."

posted June 29, 2011 12:13 AM            

Just so we're all clear. I am a feminist. I take that word how it is meant- in it's purity. If someone has a problem with the connotations of the word, I don't know how to help them with that. It needs to be 'taken back' from how it's been twisted. Like many things in society.

I am pro woman. My sons are pro woman. *how could they not be?
My daughter is and will be pro woman.

They are pro people. Pro humanity. Until there's equality in the genders, rather than the obvious differences that are meant to be 'different' not 'less'.....but as in equal....Until that time, there needs to be feminism. Then we can change it to 'humanism' across the board.

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"It’s awesome that a movement of women supposedly hating men is complete and irrefutable proof that [women are] wrong, but all the woman-hating men are Great Men and great artists and cool, admired role models, like rappers or rock stars or all of those philosophers who thought women were inferior. Imaginary man-hating is condemned and yet real woman-hating is celebrated. Why shouldn’t I hate men? Clearly they hate me and that impacts my life daily."

- I Blame the Patriarchy

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posted June 29, 2011 03:55 AM            

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Originally posted by pixelpixie:
Do you like my song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

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posted June 29, 2011 03:56 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I was wondering if you have ever considered the possibility that you lack empathy for women? That there is something wrong with you.

For example, you lack empathy for rape victims (seeing them as willing participants, rather than victims of crime)???

This is a pretty simple, solid question.

If you can't answer it, fine. Just HAD to ask.

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