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Topic: Extreme Envy
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Taineberry
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posted July 19, 2011 01:59 AM
  
My dad has a scorpio sun. He gets jealous often and it is ugly. His face and voice seem to emanate toxic slime - he says poisonous things about the person he is jealous about, then plots revenge about how to bring them down. I can't bear to be around him when he is like that.My Mom is Aqua sun - when she is jealous it is different. She goes all cold and stiff, and acts like a martyr. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted July 19, 2011 02:23 AM
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Lonake
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posted July 19, 2011 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
His face and voice seem to emanate toxic slime - he says poisonous things about the person
I know people with Pluto conj Asc EXACTLY like this. That is a great word. Toxic.
Pluto conj Sun, it's not the same, from what I've met. They are the most 'tame' of the bunch.
Pluto conj Moon, haven't met too many, all I can say is that they see things others dismiss and have no probs pointing them out.IP: Logged |
Saraintheski
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posted July 19, 2011 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Taineberry:
[b]His face and voice seem to emanate toxic slime - he says poisonous things about the person
I know people with Pluto conj Asc EXACTLY like this. That is a great word. Toxic.
Pluto conj Sun, it's not the same, from what I've met. They are the most 'tame' of the bunch.
Pluto conj Moon, haven't met too many, all I can say is that they see things others dismiss and have no probs pointing them out.[/B][/QUOTE]
Moon conjunct pluto can be pretty scary and vicious too I have mars conjunct pluto Rawr lol
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Saraintheski
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posted July 19, 2011 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Taineberry:
[b]His face and voice seem to emanate toxic slime - he says poisonous things about the person
I know people with Pluto conj Asc EXACTLY like this. That is a great word. Toxic.
Pluto conj Sun, it's not the same, from what I've met. They are the most 'tame' of the bunch.
Pluto conj Moon, haven't met too many, all I can say is that they see things others dismiss and have no probs pointing them out.[/B][/QUOTE]
Moon conjunct pluto can be pretty scary and vicious too I have mars conjunct pluto Rawr lol
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Lonake
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posted July 19, 2011 02:48 AM
I don't see Sun/Pluto as scary/vicious, I like all the people I've met with that, esp the ones who had it in Scorp. I think they're sweethearts. But they're young so I dunno...maybe meet them later in life and  lolIP: Logged |
Saraintheski
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posted July 19, 2011 03:01 AM
MOON conjunct pluto is the worse I know someone with both of these in leo and they can be terrifying and install fear in me it's like they want to torture me and scare me .. LOL i'm a scorp so I think everyone is out to do that to me  IP: Logged |
sand
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posted July 19, 2011 03:51 AM
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AstrologicalMan
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posted July 19, 2011 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
My Mother has Aqua sun in exact combust with Mercury.I think it is in the 1st house.
Does Aqua Sun have a lot of envy if it is not evolved?
Does it have the "shadow" of the evolved Aqua i.e. humanitarian.What positions do you think cause envy? Would it be 1st house positions cuz that could make the person more self centered. Envy was the theme of my mother's life.
Was just thinking of that ,today, and was interested in what you all though.
Thanks!
Envy comes from self hatred. When you hate your self you want to be someone else. When you learn to love yourself you want to be in touch with The Ultimate Being. IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted July 19, 2011 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
Envy comes from self hatred. When you hate your self you want to be someone else. When you learn to love yourself you want to be in touch with The Ultimate Being.
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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 19, 2011 01:52 PM
I learned early on, not to be too envious, because even the "beautiful people" have problems, but I have been dealing with some envy over the past year, and it has coincided with my feeling like utter crap and not feeling comfortable in my own skin. IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted July 19, 2011 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
This is completely OK to admit I agree.
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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 19, 2011 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by AstrologicalMan:
Envy comes from self hatred. When you hate your self you want to be someone else. When you learn to love yourself you want to be in touch with The Ultimate Being.
Thanks Val.Go down the street and pick me up some Chinese . ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted July 19, 2011 02:03 PM
Well, I know 2 Pluto conj the ASC.One is a female who also has an unaspected Mars.
Her anger is out of control. She HAS force of personality but it masters her not the other way around.The other is a positive force, a super one. I think Pluto on the ASC will MAKE you a force. How you use it is a different story. Nuclear power can be used for good or bad.I see Pluto on the ASC like that. You WILL know they are there! ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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popcorn
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posted July 19, 2011 02:05 PM
envy and jealousy people all of this people have law self esteem. I've checked so many chart with both positive and negative aspect from every sign and cant see any spesific to just this..I can only see law self esteem..IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted July 19, 2011 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, I know 2 Pluto conj the ASC.One is a female who also has an unaspected Mars.
Her anger is out of control. She HAS force of personality but it masters her not the other way around.The other is a positive force, a super one. I think Pluto on the ASC will MAKE you a force. How you use it is a different story. Nuclear power can be used for good or bad.I see Pluto on the ASC like that. You WILL know they are there!
NUCLEAR!! YES!! nuclear is the perfect word as pluto is the planet of nuclear power...it definitely does matter how you use the power....for your revenge or to better yourself...either way, its a powerful force and it definitely can go bad or good depending on how you use it ------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted July 19, 2011 02:23 PM
I have Moon conjunct my Retro Pluto in Scorpio house 6. And Lilith conjuncts these also. IP: Logged |
HighFive
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posted July 19, 2011 03:18 PM
Hmm, i thought negative aquas are the arrogant type, kind of like leos but in intelectual way...I know this pisces, with moon in gem, mars and mercury in aqua. Dear lord what an attitude, no wonder he can't get a job, despite his brilliance. He has isolated himself and still plays that "better than the rest" role.
I know sun square neptune can represent self deluding, but this guy will push himself over the cliff before admitting he is in the wrong and that someone "outsmarted" him. Perhpas this is where envy kicks in. But I honestly wouldn't know, aquas i know are all mostly normal, easy to get along people. IP: Logged |
Taineberry
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posted July 19, 2011 04:29 PM
Negative Aqua's can be very frosty, very disapproving.... And you can't budge their thinking (fixed sign). They have a fixed idea of how things "should" be, and woe betide if you don't fit the picture.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted July 19, 2011 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think Pluto on the ASC will MAKE you a force. How you use it is a different story.
Pluto on the ASC are the ugliest beings I've seen, especially (and most often) in Virgo. That Pluto is the snottiest. The small narrow mind.Now, people I've known with Pluto Virgo on the Sun, they are different, and then those with Pluto/Uranus in Virgo on the Sun, they are great, so fabulous, I love having them as friends. Maybe because I have Pluto and Uranus in aspect to my Sun as well.
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sand
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posted July 19, 2011 10:32 PM
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Lonake
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posted July 19, 2011 11:05 PM
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avocadosandwich
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posted July 19, 2011 11:10 PM
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sand
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posted July 19, 2011 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Sand, hon, I don't know you
i know that. i meant astrowise, just the placement. IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted July 20, 2011 12:10 AM
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He's upset that I don't want to be romantic with him
Interesting... my Aqua with a Scorp ASC w/ Pluto conjunct it basically freezed me out of his life because he couldn't be with me. IP: Logged |
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