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Topic: If you've had a Mars/Pluto relationship..
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Venusian Moon unregistered
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posted May 05, 2013 08:59 PM
I have mars conjunct pluto with my boyfriend. He is the pluto. No didnt cut ties. We have loads of pluto aspects.IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6755 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted May 07, 2013 04:24 AM
Betty Boop is my old nick btw!! I'm the Pluto in a few conjunctions. My Pluto is at 6' Scorpio:
- The guy I grew up with (16/08/82) has his Mars at 7 deg Scorpio. We were close for a while. He was like my brother.. but I have become distant towards him lately and I don't feel like things are 'the same' between us. - The only man I have ever been in love with (02/08/67) - Mars at 6' Scorpio. Although I care about him and I know he cares about me, we had a few ups and downs.. not because of "us", but outer problems. I am no longer talking to him.. I can't explain why.. He's not happy about it... But yeah - I just .... don't want to talk anymore. So I did cut ties, more or less. Something upset me. It's not really his fault... but I can't get over it. - A friend I had a few years ago (25/01/84) - Mars at 7' Scorp. I was fairly close to him, but not romantically involved. We ended up losing contact. I didn't feel a very strong pull with him. He seemed keen to have a relationship, not just with me.. but apparently with anyone, for the sake of it. This put me off. - This is a guy I can't stand.. so I won't call him a 'friend'. He is born: 12/08/82 (same year as the guy I grew up with). His Mars is at 5' Scorpio. I don't know what it is about him but I simply do not like him. He has tried to cheat on his fiancee/now wife with me. He generally seems sleazy but also immature.. definitely not my type. I think it's his Taurus Moon that gets me though. I just find them lazy. But again ^ he wanted something to happen.. and I did not & I'm the Pluto... so there's a pattern! Generally it seems I have cut the ties.. or stopped interacting in some way. Venusian - quote: I have mars conjunct pluto with my boyfriend. He is the pluto. No didnt cut ties. We have loads of pluto aspects.
I was curious if the Pluto cuts ties.. since I was Pluto in all of those conjunctions.
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posted May 07, 2013 06:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette:
Venusian - I was curious if the Pluto cuts ties.. since I was Pluto in all of those conjunctions.
These are our synastry plutos aspects. We are both pluto Sun square pluto Neptune square pluto Lilith square pluto Juno square pluto Pluto semisquare Asc Pluto opposition chiron Moon trine pluto Mercury trine pluto Pluto trine sun Pluto trine saturn Chiron trine pluto Mars conjunct pluto Pluto conjunct uranus Pluto conjunct pallas Pluto sextile lilith Uranus sextile pluto Our composite Neptune sextile pluto Venus trine pluto Pluto sextile Asc I think you have to look at the composite too maybe?
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 07, 2013 06:27 AM
Yes, but with a pretty wide orb. My Pluto's in a 5d opp with his Mars/Venus conj (also, a wide trine with his Sun, close sextile with his Moon, and wide trine with his Jupiter).Honestly, I feel like I have a lot power in the relationship - not fought for, but just given. I'm head-over-heels for him, though, and he seems to be the same for me. Married for four years so far. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 07, 2013 06:45 AM
Adding: I just looked up his synastry with his previous ex-girlfriend, and woah.There's a very tight opposition between her Pluto/Jupiter/Merc conjunction and his Mars/Venus conjunction, but without any of our trines and sextiles. From what I've heard (from himself, but mostly his friends/family) it was a 4-year, on-again/off-again relationship, and during the latter half of it she treated him like garbage (yelled at him, put him down, expected him to bend over backwards for her w/o reciprocation, and wanted him to go to therapy because he was depressed - I wonder why he was...). He held on, though, and was even going to ask her to marry him before she moved out - at first for space, but then she began to see other people while keeping him on a string (would call and want to hang out, would ask to go on dates and then stand him up, etc). The only bit that I saw was her freaking out and stalking him at his condo when we started dating (she "arrived" two minutes after I left and began to freak out on him; would show up and begin taking stuff that he had from before they started dating, saying that it was hers and that she forgot it) and at his place of work (would start yelling at him in stairwells, would randomly show up at his weekend job and try to talk). She emailing him randomly (" Do you have my passport?", "I have that bear your grandfather gave you," etc) and he would reply tersely but not impolitely ("No, you it was in x,", "I don't want the bear," etc) until she saw through mutual friends that we had married. Apparently (from one of the bouts of her screaming at and hitting him), the gist of her latter-days crazy was that, while she moved out nearly a year prior, started dating/sleeping with other people, and explicitly told him that she was "letting him go" several months before we met, he fell in love with someone else and they were supposed to end up together. -_- She was a Scorp Sun with a Pisces Moon, Cappie Venus, and Virgo Mars. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects.
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 07, 2013 07:13 AM
Adding again: I'd always wondered why he put up with so much from her both during and after the relationship - even that first time when she showed up screaming right after I'd left, he simply stopped responding, guided her by her shoulders out, and closed the door...after which she apparently stood outside screaming and throwing things for a good 20 minutes - the neighbors even came over afterwards to see if he was alright.I would've called the cops, but he just took it and continued to address her civilly during her periodic ambushes at work and surprise "I really meant to take these books and records when I left last year"-athons. Pluto opp Mars/Venus. Wow. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Mystic Melody Knowflake Posts: 747 From: IL Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 12, 2013 07:03 PM
Thanks for sharing, everyone.IP: Logged |
neilthecellist Knowflake Posts: 77 From: Phoenix, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2013
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posted May 12, 2013 10:25 PM
In the words of an astrologer I very strongly respect, "All ethics go out the door with Pluto."IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 3790 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 13, 2013 10:51 AM
I have Pluto trine his Mars. He has Pluto conjunct my Mars.And my Mars is conj my Asc. His Mars is conj his Desc. IP: Logged |
meyray Knowflake Posts: 612 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted May 13, 2013 03:59 PM
My Scorpio Pluto square his Leo Mars (0°47'). He also had a tight Mars-Pluto square in natal. We were together for 3.5 years.It was actually he (Mars person) who cut all ties with me. It was because his new love interest was jealous and paranoid about us remaining friends. He was completely manipulated by her. She had mental problems. Despite the fact that he disowned me (for which I developed intense resentment towards him because I thought of it as betrayal of our strong bond and friendship) I found out that they had broken up. He was made miserable by her and was in fact so desperate that he messaged me once begging for help. After their supposed break up (I never really found out for sure but I saw that he had removed her from Facebook and had deleted all their photos together) he slowly started coming back. Now we’re friends (kind of) which is what I always wanted from the start. However I still resent him and sometimes wish he would just disappear from my life. We had strong Saturn connections – Venus trine Saturn (DW), his Saturn trine my Sun and Moon, Saturn conjunct Saturn Me: Gemini Ascendant Scorpio Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter, Pluto Libra Mercury Leo Mars Pisces Saturn Capricorn Uranus, Neptune Him: Sagittarius Ascendant, Sun, Mercury Capricorn Moon, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Venus, Jupiter, Pluto Mars Leo Saturn Pisces Psycho home wrecker: Ascendant unknown Aquarius Sun, Mercury, Saturn Cancer Moon Capricorn Venus, Mars, Uranus, Neptune Virgo Jupiter Scorpio Pluto IP: Logged |
AscTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1171 From: Pretoria, Gauteng,South Africa Registered: May 2009
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posted May 14, 2013 10:44 AM
One guy I dated had his Mars conjunct my Pluto.I had my Pluto conjunct his Mars. Man this affair was SEXUAL. And there arguments would often lead to sex that, at some moments, I wouldn't be sure why we were fighting(maybe only creating enough tension to take our clothes off). I am not sure it's a nice placement. Anything involving Pluto starts off nice but always goes to seedy, underground places; where a relationship must never reach. IP: Logged |
athenaia Knowflake Posts: 737 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted August 26, 2015 10:52 PM
Well this is an extremely interesting thread -- so damn grim! Anyone have any long term relationships with this aspect?IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 11445 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 26, 2015 11:43 PM
I was Pluto, yes I severed ties. Twice. The first time Mars came back after 6 months, the 2nd time I think he got the hint I wanted nothing to do with him. Actually it was ironic the first time he came back I was finally at a point I wanted nothing to do with him but I agreed to frinedship because there were aspects about him I liked. IP: Logged |
Piscean Tigress Knowflake Posts: 177 From: Everywhere and Nowhere Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 27, 2015 12:50 AM
I had a 18 years relationship with someone with this aspect (Mars conjunt Pluto). I was Pluto, so I cut off all kind of contact for a year (some king of "ghosting"). He has his Mars conjunct his Pluto too, so the end of that "relationship" was really bitter and hurtfull... But we miss each other a lot! I contacted him again a month ago... There were many issues between us that can't keep us together (lies, betrayal, etc.), but now we are gonna try to see what's next to us... There is a lot of passion involved and it's almost impossible to forget...IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 3790 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 02:54 AM
I have Mars, Asc conj my soon to be husband's Pluto and Dsc. Basically, we have GREAT sex (!!) and we can talk about everything BUT, he plays mindgames and he is very good at it. It makes my Mars infuriated and off we go. I am extremely "fiery" and my Pluto squares Sun, Moon and Mercury so I'd say my Pluto is somewhat more explosive than his..at least when I've had enough. He also has Venus on Asc (op Pluto) so there are some nuances with that I do not like! Very push/pull and passive aggressive ala Pisces. The only thing that stabilizes us are our Earth Moons I think + some significant Saturn aspects to nodes, angles and Moons. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6755 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 04:20 AM
^ Some time ago you were asking about a man potentially having BPD or NPD? Was this someone else, or the same guy? I kind of developed a negative impression of your partner, from what you have been telling us... but I might've misunderstood some posts to be about him, when they may well have been about someone else.Sexual attraction and sex is definitely off the charts with Mars/Pluto, so it's great that you have this aspect, from that perspective! But for a marriage, Sun-Sun and Mercury-Mercury aspects would also be nice to have. I can't say I like the egomaniac signs in his chart... I think I've mentioned this to you before. But I'm hoping he rises above that and displays a higher vibration of those energies. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 3790 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted August 27, 2015 04:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: ^ Some time ago you were asking about a man potentially having BPD or NPD? Was this someone else, or the same guy? I kind of developed a negative impression of your partner, from what you have been telling us... but I might've misunderstood some posts to be about him, when they may well have been about someone else.Sexual attraction and sex is definitely off the charts with Mars/Pluto, so it's great that you have this aspect, from that perspective! But for a marriage, Sun-Sun and Mercury-Mercury aspects would also be nice to have. I can't say I like the egomaniac signs in his chart... I think I've mentioned this to you before. But I'm hoping he rises above that and displays a higher vibration of those energies.
Some posts have been about him and others not. He has some issues for sure, but who doesn't!? May I ask what exactly it was that you didn't like about his chart? I am still learning so all info and input is good.
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Stellar.pleasure Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Somewhere only we know Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 27, 2015 09:41 AM
Mars square Pluto in synastry with an ex. I have Mars square Pluto natally.He left many times and I would try to fight for the relationship and make him stay. He would come back days later. Once, I had a boyfriend when we broke up and he said he would try and get me back no matter what. The new boyfriend didn't work out and he did get me back. I've tried leaving many times and he still tries to come back. When he broke things off, I remember playing games to try and get him to think of me though. But even without those games, he still would beg me to take him back after a few days. Now if someone wants to leave, I don't even try to do anything. Im not going to fight for someone to stay with me. It does make for great sex but we had bad arguments. He got physical once and threatened to kill himself. It's not something I want to go through again. IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 752 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 27, 2015 10:53 AM
For what it's worth (to anyone interested) my parents have been married 30 years and have Mars/Pluto DW in their synastry (Dad's Pluto squares my Mom's Mars; Mom's Pluto trines my Dad's Mars). I can't say their relationship has been easy. They married within 8 months and had me a year later, so it all happened very fast. Had they of been together longer before getting married, I don't know if they'd of made it. My Dad has Venus opp. Neptune natally and my Mom's Neptune opposes his Venus in synastry so I think there was/is some idealization going on there from his end (he proposed after 5 weeks or something?).Theirs is an interesting synastry to study though I don't have my Dad's birth time They fight like cats and dogs yet still manage to keep it together. They would NEVER leave each other, under any circumstance. They are both eternally faithful to each other still, too, despite many times getting to the breaking point (Mercury square Mars at play too!). Tough to say who has the upper hand, though. My Mom relies on my Dad quite a bit even though she likes to think this isn't so, and I think he feels indebted to her/responsible for her in some way. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 3541 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted August 27, 2015 11:11 AM
Hmmm...I have the square aspect with someone DW. Lots of power struggles. Ego and any other kind of fights. Sexual tension. We cannot see it but others do. We could have sex only by looking intensively at each other. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2674 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 27, 2015 11:28 AM
It's not always that bad or that strong. Other aspects can easily overpower it. Speaking from experience. IP: Logged |
Stellar.pleasure Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Somewhere only we know Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 27, 2015 11:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Hmmm...I have the square aspect with someone DW. Lots of power struggles. Ego and any other kind of fights. Sexual tension. We cannot see it but others do. We could have sex only by looking intensively at each other.
i nodded my head to all of this. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 3167 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 28, 2015 03:28 PM
I have had two relationships conjunct my Mars.The one relationship I complained about being "controlled" and said I wanted more freedom. He was a Leo, Mars/Pluto conjunct in Libra nataly and widely conjunct my Mars in Libra. For about 2 weeks he cut me off to "think" about whether or not we should continue with the relationship. The other one(Libra Sun/Moon) had his Pluto/Sun exact conjunct with my Mars in Libra. He was dodgy After I broke off with him, he disappeared. I haven't seen him since. I think the Pluto person has a thing about "cutting" people off. I have the wide Venus/Pluto conjunct in Scorpio and I find myself cutting people off. But then again,my Pluto is in 7th. IP: Logged |
confusedaseff Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted August 28, 2015 04:09 PM
funny enoughi've been in a long term relationship with a guy where both our plutos and mars square each other - my pluto squared his mars, his pluto squared my mars.. the relationship was wonderful. i broke up with him because in the end (nearly 4 years together and we moved in together within 2 months) we're too young to choose love over career (we just finished undergrad) and we needed to be untied to anything so we can grow our own way and come into our own before we can think of getting back together we really created a world for ourselves and were devoted to each other. though we figured out that that was hurting us as well. as much as our 'world' was home and safe we have to bite the bullet and learn to divide and recombine.. not just one all the time. honestly the more we knew of each other's crazy side or skeletons buried under the closet the more we love each other. he literally knows every thing about me and there are now things i've either forgotten about myself or is no longer part of my psyche because he took it - something i considered horrible and worth grieving over, made it okay and either made it lovable or made it disappear. we grew alot together. our relationship was simply, imo, love in it's purest form. i never really understood the phrase 'when you love someone you want them to be happy even if it's not with you' until our relationship happened. actually i never understood any of those selfless love quotes until we happened. we still talk everyday. he's my best friend and i'm his. we both agreed that there's no way we'd be able to cut each other out of our lives for a long period of time. it's not all bad guys. IP: Logged |
SunAscendant Knowflake Posts: 1252 From: California Registered: Oct 2014
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posted July 24, 2016 01:24 AM
I have a Pluto-Mars aspect in synastry with my ex who I will always be obsessed with. I'm Mars and his Pluto trines me. The trine doesn't/didn't help. I am obsessed with him and he couldn't care less. IP: Logged |