posted July 29, 2016 09:04 PM            

Will have to reply later since people are in my house trying to talk to me. LOL

posted July 29, 2016 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Such a thoughtful comment, Electro, thank you.

Will have to reply later since people are in my house trying to talk to me. LOL

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Just activate your Mars in Gemini's multi-tasking powers and grow an extra set of arms. That should fix it lol

posted July 30, 2016 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I think that Scorpio energy in general can be messy.

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It's like Capricorn. We keep a stiff upper lip to hide the crazy underneath.

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
It also makes sense since the Scorpio-influenced person in question (referring to personal experience, I have MiS and 8th house Moon) can be in sync with that same energy itself in which they actually may be looking for something heated, and it's not just the vibe they're giving off.

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I think I get that. Heat that is pursuing kerosene-type relationships.

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I would also say Pluto-Moon contacts since they can be prone to indulging in these kinds of situations to which they may secretly crave it due to a prominence of stagnancy in their lives.

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Hmm, that's observant. Moon-Pluto stagnancy. Why is it stagnating? Fear? My 8H moon is on the solstice point of Pluto & trine Scorpio NN.

I like that my life is usually calm. In some ways that is a success but also a failure. I do think emotions are sloppy. That's probably why my Aqua Mercury likes astrology so much. Makes everything so clinical-sounding and predictable. Cozy and reassuring like bleached white lab coats in a lab.

Getting tired here, don't worry about replying to any of this jibberish..

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I think that the best solution though would be adaption. Trying to control it obviously would run into disaster and people can just abandon it all together since they don't know how to deal with it. Patience and understanding can be quite useful assets

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Also people who contact my Pluto-Moon opposition in synastry tend to frustrate me more than anything.

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I contact them, but I think you meant somebody else. Pretty sure you did. LOL

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I live with someone at the moment who's Mercury and Venus is in a T-Square with my Moon-Pluto opposition, making things quite frustrating. With Mars there, I've literally despised them lol

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Sorry you have that situation

I guess we are off topic now but the mods seem determined to ignore this thread so maybe it won't matter much.

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posted July 30, 2016 12:18 AM            

When I mean Moon-Pluto stagnancy, I mean when they feel like there's nothing really going on in their lives. Because of that, they either indulge themselves in drama or create drama in order to make their lives more exciting, which that Moon-Pluto contact lives for. It's the intensity! Even I secretly enjoy reading the drama going on in these threads at points
It's as if the Moon-Pluto contact would rather delve into their emotions than try to get out of them. If they feel depressed, they would rather want to go through the depressed segment of their lives instead of trying to fight it, which they feel only creates more frustration for them (in my experience at least).

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I contact them, but I think you meant somebody else. Pretty sure you did. LOL

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I was just blabbering about things without thinking straight about it here. I was focusing on one relationship with hard synastry aspects that involves a hard Moon-Pluto contact, and so I generalized it and didn't put much thought into it. Mars-Mercury square once again firing me off at 300MPH

I knew a Virgo Sun/Mars whose Mars could've been in a T-Square with my Moon-Pluto opposition. He was the most frustrating and annoying person I've ever had to deal with; I wanted to punch him in the face. He always went on about how he had "a life". Ironically, I came across him at his job and he gave me the wrong directions! So much for a "life"! lol

If the mods are determined to ignore this thread, I shall support them in doing so. I check enough sections on this site already lol :P

posted July 30, 2016 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
When I mean Moon-Pluto stagnancy, I mean when they feel like there's nothing really going on in their lives. Because of that, they either indulge themselves in drama or create drama in order to make their lives more exciting, which that Moon-Pluto contact lives for. It's the intensity!

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I see! And it makes sense. But I think my moon is highly selective about the kind of intensity it wants. I can't relate to others' intensity about some things...and lately I'm surprised to find myself outright disliking certain energies. My progressed chart has a Virgo moon conjunct the ASC right now, and I'm more nitpicky than usual.

Usually if someone annoys me it becomes my project to establish friendly communication with them anyway, so I can find something about them that I like, so I don't have to focus on the negative. Not so, lately.

Anyway, what's my point again?

Oh...I think signs matter. And Sag Pluto/Gem moon might have a taste for drama that is different than the drama an 8H Pisces moon is seeking. Though sometimes, we find it in the same places, just in different sentences when it's online drama. LOL

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
It's as if the Moon-Pluto contact would rather delve into their emotions than try to get out of them. If they feel depressed, they would rather want to go through the depressed segment of their lives instead of trying to fight it, which they feel only creates more frustration for them (in my experience at least).

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TRUE for me!! And thank you, that is so perceptive. I'm gonna copy that down.

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Checked on my own solstice points (Antiscia right?) and it turns out that the solstice points for my Mars and Ascendant fall exactly onto Regulus! How strange lol

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posted July 30, 2016 08:41 AM            

It must have made a difference, having it in your respective natals. Makes that energy less "in your face"..

posted July 30, 2016 08:49 AM            

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When I mean Moon-Pluto stagnancy, I mean when they feel like there's nothing really going on in their lives. Because of that, they either indulge themselves in drama or create drama in order to make their lives more exciting

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You're right.. moon-pluto does feed off of intensity. Most of it is sub-conscious though. I realise after the fact that I was trying to provoke xyz response from that person. And then my Libra sun is like, Oh "Gosh, why..why can't I have some peace of mind?"
Sometimes other people cause drama, sometimes I do. But yeah, things feel more 'real' when the superficial emotions have been burned down to see what people feel at their very core. If getting there sheds some blood, so be it.

posted July 30, 2016 08:54 AM            

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My ex has Mars-Venus-Pluto, so his Mars conjunct others' Pluto, that was so familiar to him, I think he assumed all relationships would feel that way and he adapted to it.

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Great observation!

And yes, sometimes it does need to stay platonic.

BTW Faith, I don`t know if I told you but Andy`s Mars is exactly conjunct my Pluto, (on the antiscion of his own Pluto).

And since he`s gay, I am pretty sure, there has never been a sexual thought crossing his mind when it came to me.

(even with said Mars squaring my Venus, and his Eros exact on my Venus).

posted July 30, 2016 09:01 AM            

But actually his Pluto is semisquare my Mars (1°12) - though the semisquare to my ASC is even closer.

And in composite Mars is widely conjunct Pluto (7°54) with both planets being conjunct NN from each side (Mars is closer though with 2°21).

posted July 30, 2016 09:11 AM            

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@Faith,
You know... I also think the trined suns might play a part. It's rather overlooked, but...even if not trined by degree, trined suns are real hard to break apart. The 5-9 pattern will almost always be magnetised back together. (Unless the rest of ur chart is heavy in an element that clashes with your trined sun..but even so..).

It must have made a difference, having it in your respective natals. Makes thato energky less "in your face"..

Question for you.. If, after all that went down when you guys broke up for the last time; he had come back, apologising.. Would you have taken him back? Sorry if that's too personal.. But I was just trying to correlate with the 'when the mars person tries to come back' part and compare.

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True, Elysia, we had loaded synastry.

He wouldn't have to apologize. There's nothing to apologize for.

posted July 30, 2016 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW Faith, I don`t know if I told you but Andy`s Mars is exactly conjunct my Pluto, (on the antiscion of his own Pluto).

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LOL...that makes sense.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
And since he`s gay, I am pretty sure, there has never been a sexual thought crossing his mind when it came to me.
(even with said Mars squaring my Venus, and his Eros exact on my Venus).

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There's no way to know for sure, is there?

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
But still a very life-shaping experience for me, having crossed paths with him, even before we actually did cross paths. Which is something only you can understand what I mean with it, I am aware of it.

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Yes yes, I do understand!

posted July 30, 2016 09:36 AM            

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Well, there is no aspect of Mars and Pluto between P and me... or so I thought for years.

But actually his Pluto is semisquare my Mars (1°12) - though the semisquare to my ASC is even closer.

And in composite Mars is widely conjunct Pluto (7°54) with both planets being conjunct NN from each side (Mars is closer though with 2°21).

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Enough to make it spicy, but not too obsessive.

Oh wait...

Cancel that.

He falls in loooooveeeee....

posted July 30, 2016 09:41 AM            

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You're right.. moon-pluto does feed off of intensity. Most of it is sub-conscious though. I realise after the fact that I was trying to provoke xyz response from that person. And then my Libra sun is like, Oh "Gosh, why..why can't I have some peace of mind?"
Sometimes other people cause drama, sometimes I do. But yeah, things feel more 'real' when the superficial emotions have been burned down to see what people feel at their very core. If getting there sheds some blood, so be it.

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You are so damn cool.

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"..it's like half storybook romance and half anger management. "
You described Scorpio romance to a T.

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posted July 30, 2016 09:53 AM            

Though I do seem to be on his radar easily.
I mean I think there is not one post I did on his site (not that I am there all THAT often, just occasionally) he did not "like". I mean he is a very sweet guy, and does that alot, and I thought he would like just everyone`s comment, but that`s not quite true either. Still not one of my comments go unnoticed (and unliked ), interestingly not even just by him, but by many of his "followers" as well. And I am just, well, pretty much a random stranger. lol

I guess astrology shows itself one way or the other. Energy has to be expressed, in the way it is possible, and if romance is out of the question, it might be like that.

I remember one time many years ago, I was just sitting innocently somewhere, he rushed out and glared at me as if he was actually angry with me. lol
I guess I was oversensitive though. He probably was just using me as an anchor for the character he had to perform (seems like I am fulfilling that role for quite some actors. lol)

It`s not always like that of course, but there seems to be a certain "circle" whose members do react to me in that way.
I mean there was another one on the open air last weekend, and well I left my seat during a song he did and was ending up at the top of the stairs at a different place in the back of the amphitheatre, and even though there is always a lot of movement at that kind of event, he did follow me with his eyes all the way up to when I appeared on this other location again.
For fun I checked his chart.
(well he has got Sun and Mercury in Sag - Mercury once again at the same spot as P. Moon in Aqua. Mars in Cap).

I slowly form a hypothesis on WHICH kind of actors seem to always have me on their radar.

It`s all in their stars. lol

BTW his Mars is widely square my Pluto.

" I had no. f*cking. clue."
I am sorry this went this way. And it seems so unfair and maybe you could have both come to an agreement if she had been honest with you. But I guess it was quite difficult for both sides.

But anyway as I said, astrological energy WILL be expressed some way or the other.

The problem with Mars-Pluto is that if you don`t find a constructive outlet (like sex, or even a shared project that you put all your energy into, becoming a power-team or something like that, doing spiritual healing even together, something constructive that will manifest physically somehow), then it can turn very very destructive, become violent or even the kind of silent treating that can be so much more cruel than any shouting match.

"My husband's Mars is square my Scorpio NN and he is life-changing to me, to say the very least."
P and me have that, too. His Mars is square my nodal axis by 1 degree. My Mars is square his nodal axis by 3-4 degrees. His mars is more accentuated in our synastry anyway. And I am not really used to that. I seemed to always crush on guys where their Mars was a bit under-emphasized. Iguess it has to do with my own developmental stage though. I probably wouldn´t ahve been able to handle an overactive Mars in a man before.

(Andy was the exception, but as I said, he is gay, so safe )

"..never ceases to amaze me."
Absolutely. Just shows that we have this kind of antennas.

posted July 30, 2016 09:54 AM            

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Enough to make it spicy, but not too obsessive.

Oh wait...

Cancel that.

He falls in loooooveeeee....

And so do you.

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HAHAHA
You don`t want his wife to read this.

posted July 30, 2016 11:47 PM            

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True, Elysia, we had loaded synastry.

He wouldn't have to apologize. There's nothing to apologize for.

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Why you edit, Faithy? I missed it.
Okay, it's cool if you had second thoughts about posting whatever was there..

I was just wondering, to what extent are people who were once so closely involved, and so clearly meant-to-be, willing to give each other that chance again? Would probably still be the same roller-coaster. But it's worth it, right..? Or is it? You don't have to respond, not trying to put you on the spot. Just thinking out loud. I'd like to believe that 'that' kind of love is invincible. That, given a chance, it would start off right where it left off and..*happily ever after*. I guess I was trying to get myself answers for or against that.

^ Whether that's what's best for us is another question. What kind of love is the 'right' one, is entirely debatable..and entirely subjective. The kind we're talking about may or may not be *it* that we're meant to embrace. Who knows..

posted July 31, 2016 12:09 AM            

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Energy has to be expressed, in the way it is possible, and if romance is out of the question, it might be like that.
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I remember one time many years ago, I was just sitting innocently somewhere, he rushed out and glared at me as if he was actually angry with me. lol
I guess I was oversensitive though. He probably was just using me as an anchor for the character he had to perform (seems like I am fulfilling that role for quite some actors. lol)
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But anyway as I said, astrological energy WILL be expressed some way or the other.

The problem with Mars-Pluto is that if you don`t find a constructive outlet (like sex, or even a shared project that you put all your energy into, becoming a power-team or something like that, doing spiritual healing even together, something constructive that will manifest physically somehow), then it can turn very very destructive, become violent or even the kind of silent treating that can be so much more cruel than any shouting match.

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^ Bingo. That energy needs some outlet.

posted July 31, 2016 01:36 AM            

Then again, considering my calculations on my Solstice points, I may not be entirely sure. I used Astro-Dienst to calculate the points and it says Leo and Aquarius and their degree placements, and I'm not sure which to follow.

posted July 31, 2016 05:58 AM            

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^ Bingo. That energy needs some outlet.

Btw, you do have a very specific "type" that you attract. Like moths to a flame. They can't help it.

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I guess I do. Or at least I notice certain patterns.

posted July 31, 2016 11:19 AM            

"I guess astrology shows itself one way or the other. Energy has to be expressed, in the way it is possible, and if romance is out of the question, it might be like that."

Yeah it's really interesting...to look at HOW the energy gets expressed. Sometimes it looks mundane on the surface, but if you really think about it, it's extraordinary. Like you and I have interesting synastry, which is no big deal since we are "just" platonic friends. But if I think of it...REALLY? What are the chances we would even meet? And the dreams I have about you and P, it only makes sense when my sun is on your composite Venus, my Venus-Neptune on your ASC stellium.

"I remember one time many years ago, I was just sitting innocently somewhere, he rushed out and glared at me as if he was actually angry with me. lol"

hehehehe

The ex I am discussing on this thread would occasionally glare at me if I dressed up and he had a girlfriend. As in, "Don't you DARE look like that when I can't touch you."

I just played dumb. "What's the problem? "

heheheh

"I slowly form a hypothesis on WHICH kind of actors seem to always have me on their radar."

I love it. Well I have the same thing in my life, only not with actors. Just repeating themes.

"The problem with Mars-Pluto is that if you don`t find a constructive outlet (like sex, or even a shared project that you put all your energy into, becoming a power-team or something like that, doing spiritual healing even together, something constructive that will manifest physically somehow), then it can turn very very destructive, become violent or even the kind of silent treating that can be so much more cruel than any shouting match."

You are SO RIGHT. God I was just thinking of another person with whom I have Mars/Pluto synastry and how painful that was because circumstances kept us apart when there was a growing need to spend more time together.

Oh and my Bavarian friend that I talk about, her Mercury-Mars in Cap is square my Pluto. When we first started talking I was so disproportionately afraid of losing her friendship, like I couldn't even handle that.
A little strange.

"P and me have that, too. His Mars is square my nodal axis by 1 degree. My Mars is square his nodal axis by 3-4 degrees."

Hot

"Iguess it has to do with my own developmental stage though. I probably wouldn´t ahve been able to handle an overactive Mars in a man before."

But now you can?

Shhhhh don't say that in public, you know how boys are!

*listens closely* Yes I hear the rumblings of a stampede in the distance even now!

posted July 31, 2016 11:56 AM            

"Why you edit, Faithy?"

Oh sorry! I thought you saw.
I'm cagey about talking about my ex because he hated for me to talk about him and part of me still wants to honor his privacy. Even though this is anonymous, there is a chance people COULD figure out who I am because my birthday is public. I'm a little paranoid.