posted August 31, 2011 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I found:
"If you can manage your responsibilities, this relationship could go on "For better or worse, in sickness and health, till death do you part." The more purposeful you are the better off you will be. This is a great lesson to be learned. Until then you will meet with delay, denial, inhibitions, limitations and confinement. But, once you get it, you may pass by. Limit the criticism. Make the effort to achieve mutual understanding. Compatibility requires time and effort."

Basically the relationship exists to bring you both face to face with all the responsibilities you have been avoiding until now. That's one of the purposes of the relationship. And trust me life will find a way to place in front of you all of the difficulties it can muster. Whether one of you loses their job, develops an illness, or you have constant financial difficulties (which is usually the case with saturn). But if you manage through this together you will learn to rely on yourself and have better self-esteem. Saturn teaches responsibility through hardship. The relationship may last longer, But it doesn't mean it's gonna be easy or fun. I believe you could easily find yourself "together for the worse" and more like a burden you hav to carry.

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HiRunaroundscreaming,

This is why I don’t think my relationship with husband will last and why I am trying to direct us in a path that we can end up as good friends. I have grown a lot from this relationship, it definitely forces you to face responsibilities that you have been avoiding because you do not want to grow up type of thing for both of us but I am exhausted...it has lasted 4.5 years though because for most of the life of the relationship the hardships were nicely been balanced with fun but lately I don’t feel there is a balance anymore and I feel is time for me to let go and have a sense that what I was suppose to learn has been learned and I am just tired of the monotony and the stress/focus on responsibility. With the one I have a real nice stellium in synastry I also have a stellium in composite that involves Saturn but my relationship with him is extremely light and is why I like it he (aquarias sun aries moon) gets me in touch with my free spirited side and makes me want to be more independent) so we must have some real nice aspects that balance this out. Actually I just rechecked composite chart with guy that relationship feels light and stellium is between Sun-Mercury-Mars-Uranus not Sun-mercury-Mars-Saturn hence why is light! LOL I must have been tired when I was looking at it yesterday and my saturn composite aspects with him are: saturn trine moon, saturn semisextile venus and Saturn sextile Jupiter.

Thank you so much for all your guidance and information, it has been extremely helpful. This board and forum is really helping me figure things and is nice to have other fellow astrology lovers to discuss astrology with .

posted August 31, 2011 08:24 PM            

I feel this is the first time anyone has even taken my advice seriously on this forum lol. So, really, trust me, the appreciation is mutual . So thank you.

lol That's funny, actually because when you said the relationship with the other guy is actually ery light ad carefree even though you had saturn in the coposite my eyes opened wide and I was like woah, first time Ever that's Ever happened lol. I'm sorry to hear about your husband :/. The reason why I know this about saturn in the composite isn't just because i usually look up someone's composite with me on astro click protrait as soon as we are finding we have chemistry, lol, but also because I have seen it in my own friendships and relationships, you know? I can always tell right away now when I have saturn conjunct or in hard aspect to the sun inthe composite now. i feel a responsibility towards someone, almost like it would be a sin to walk away from them because i feel bad, but we really complain too much together and they dont really brighten my day, even though i care about them so much. Unfortunately my best friend who feels she's found her soulmate, the one where she has most of her planets clustered together on one side of the composite chart with him, they have sun conjunct saturn in the cluster, so she complains to me often about financial difficulties, his family being nasty towards her, and all the trouble they have to go through of working constantly etc. And when i am around them...omg....those two people never joke around with each other. It seems like it's not a relationship i'd like to be in. She doesnt look happy though she feels they are soulmates, which i can uderstabd how that works, actually.

posted August 31, 2011 10:42 PM            

"I feel a responsibility towards someone, almost like it would be a sin to walk away from them because i feel bad, but we really complain too much together and they don't really brighten my day, even though i care about them so much." -Runaroundscreaming.

posted September 01, 2011 12:22 PM            

Your syanstry points to intense bonding. You have moon square pluto in the synastry in addition to sun conjunct pluto and also you have sun and venus square pluto and moon conjunct neptune in the composite so that's why u feel the way u do. Since moon square pluto is within 01 degrees this is the closest aspect in ur chart it is extremely strong and solely defines ur entire relationship. Grupovenus.com says:

posted September 01, 2011 12:25 PM            

"This aspect, of the Moon in square with partner's Pluto, can represent a dangerous, and explosive relationship. You may be coming together to do some serious healing, and you can expect intense emotions and the exposing of your most cherished and unknown secrets through this relationship, perhaps [...]

In a romantic context, since both passion and conflict exist in this relationship you may need to proceed with extreme caution. Wills may clash, or control issues arise, and all the while a powerful and magnetic attraction exists between you. You feel both a push and a pull, something that draws [...]"

not just that but you sun conjunct pluto and moon conjunct neptune in synastry, which is crazy.

Astrology3d.com's relationship reprt describes

"Moon Conjunct Neptune

Together the two of you can realize an unusually beautiful, spiritual communion of souls. You'll develop a delicate and subtle sensitivity to one another's feelings, moods, and inner needs, an almost mystical understanding of one another. This unusual degree of empathy will enable you to feel extremely close to and compassionate toward one another. Telepathic or nonverbal communication takes place quite readily between you, and your psychic senses are evoked by being in one another's presence. For instance, you may begin to see auras or have accurate intuitions about distant events, especially if they involve one another. Your receptivity, passivity, nurturing qualities, spirituality, and sensitivity are undoubtedly heightened as a result of being together. Imagination is a major ingredient in your relationship, too. One of the only potential liabilities in all this would be if you are already poorly connected to the earth and prone to confuse true spirituality with fantasy. In that case the two of you could create your own little dream world together, one that has no basis in anything real, an escapist's illusion. If either or both of you have problems with alcohol or other addictions, beware of trying to rescue, save, or cure one another - or on the other hand, of succumbing to or participating in these things together. That could be really devastating to what could otherwise be a beautiful sharing relationship."

posted September 01, 2011 12:43 PM            

This is how astrology3d.com describes sun conjunct pluto though I feel it doesnt do it justice

Jfk guy's Sun Conjunct Jfk's Pluto

posted September 01, 2011 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
To be honest, that was a very selfish thing to do. To marry someone you didn't love. Didn't you think you would eventually have to break up? But at the same time, I sympathize. I know I could easily have ended up in your situation myself since I don't know what your circumstances were exactly. We all make mistakes. And I don't blame you. I'm just saying this so that next time you really don't lead someone on like that because it just does more hurt than good. No matter how much you may feel bad or actually care about them. You have to take care of yourself first, or else you end up hurting the one you meant to protect.

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I didn't lead him on I have been extremely honest with him ever since I have started having doubts. I told him I didn't want to get married many times and he would not take me seriously. He has moon in cancer and gets extremely attached and makes me feel super bad about trying to break up with him every time I try. I do looooove him I am just not in love with him but will always love him. I started having doubts three months before the wedding and my mom had worked so hard to prepare wedding, both parents looking forward to it. I felt pressured from everyone including him to go through with it. He would tell me he didn't want to get married to get a divorce but would completely ignore me telling him I didn't want to get married. I have been thinking of everyone but myself and now I am working on myself and putting myself first but I needed more than 3 months to work on standing up for my needs. Virgos put others first and sacrifice.

posted September 02, 2011 02:29 AM            

This is my best friend and her boyfriend's composite. They both feel they're soulmates. However they have a lot of financial and other difficulties because of saturn being where it is.

Also, just so you guys know, Mercury opposite the sun in the composite is also the same as mercury conjunct the sun, just as venus opposite sun and venus conjunct the sun are interpreted the same way in the composite.

Also, composite moon conjunct venus is a strong indicator of true love as well, but i don't think it's AS nice as sun conj or opposite venus. It feels a lot moodier, unstable, and subjective. compsite Moon trine and sextile venus also give strong feeling of love but, of course it's felt less than the conjunction. Also, if you have the stellium, and even a whole lot of planets all clustered together in one side of the composite chart, but they are square pluto, uranus, saturn, neptune etc...if they (almost always includes the sun) are square two or more of these, I'd say watch out. If they are square both uranus and saturn (specifically the sun) then you probably will never even be drawn to this person even if you have that mercury-venus-stellium and even if all the planets are on one side of the composite. Sometimes it even means unrequited love. This has happened 3 times to me, and each one it was a common theme. We had clustered planets on one side of the chart, with the mercury-venus-stellium, but the stellium was square or opposition uranus and saturn (in one there was neptune also) and I never even felt the slightest interest in them, but they did like me.

I'm really liking the interpretations of moonit.com . It seems so on point every time. You should really check it out. Just put your significant other's birthdate in the profile where you'd normally put ur own birthdate, and then for the report when it ask's you the other person's birthdate put your birthdate instead. That way you can change the member profile birthdate to any birthdate u like and compare yourself with unlimited people without having to pay a cent.

posted September 07, 2011 11:41 AM            

I do share a Sun/Venus conjunction with my very best friend (Sun 22*/Venus 27,5*) and also a stellium with my first, longest and most serious love;
- Sun 23*
- Venus 28*
- Uranus 25*
- Pluto 21*

Okay, now my new love interest, he's one of the four dates I had the last 8 weeks and the only one I felt something with (much more than with those 3 others and next weekend we'll have our second date);

In Gemini:

- Sun 22,5*
- Venus 21* (AQUA-Mars 21*! )
- Mercury 25*
- Saturn 11*

(I guess Saturn is not exactly part of this stellium?)

Virgo-Pluto at 29'57* (not exactly a square what I think)

Libra-Uranus at 15* (not exactly a trine maybe)

Neptune isn't relevant.

posted September 07, 2011 12:48 PM            

moon-saturn in composite means you constantly feel hurt by each other and like the other person isnt really there for you. Watch out for that one, too.

posted September 07, 2011 01:26 PM            

Davison charts show more of how of couple 'acts' together and the energy that manifests..

My boyfriend and I, have Davison Venus in Taurus trine Mars in Capricorn under one orb.. Since these are both dignified placements... the love energy is extremely exceptional...