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starmoon
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posted November 22, 2011 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think a good match for this moon sign is venus in aqua. from my personal experience V in Aqua are also not very expressive and have a love/affection style that won't demand too much emotionally from cappy moons. between the two cappy is much more emotional, but the V in Aqua doesn't mind if they hold it back.

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posted November 22, 2011 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jounia:
I don't know, I'm a bit clueless really. What else or what aspects would indicate intensity? I'm Cancer Sun...
Let me know and I'll have a look

Oh,water lumninaries,yes,very emotional,but Cancer also demands lot,maybe he is picking up on ur Sun?
Let's see... Pluto in aspect to personal planets or Angles,dominant Pluto or Mars,Mars in aspect to Moon,Venus; prominent H8,even H7(very expressive energy aimed at partner).

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posted November 22, 2011 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
i think a good match for this moon sign is venus in aqua. from my personal experience V in Aqua are also not very expressive and have a love/affection style that won't demand too much emotionally from cappy moons. between the two cappy is much more emotional, but the V in Aqua doesn't mind if they hold it back.

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posted November 22, 2011 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's my favorite Moon sign.

My son is a scorpio sun/rising with a cap moon. He is popular and so well loved.
All his life he has had a special "thing" about him that I can't explain.
His teachers would always remark about him, about how well behaved he was.
Same thing with other kids parents, they always said he was a joy to be around, and wanted him to come over.

He has a cool vibe about him though.
He is a deep thinker, prone more to listening then talking.
He tells me that I know him better than anyone, and that he will never tell anyone the things he's told me, so I have a feeling about Cap moons that they are very selective on who they share things with.

He has a girlfriend, they broke up for awhile, but it's the same girl that he started to see in the 8th grade, so I see a sense of loyalty in him as well.
He can get any girl he wants, but he doesn't seem to need that sort of playing around to boost his ego.

He told me tonight he feels like he's meant to do great things with his life, and I believe him.


My Grandma also had this placement.
She was an Aries. Lordy, Mars and Saturn together, IDK about that one! She was the life of the party though!

OOps, almost forgot, my brother has this as well. He's a double virgo. He got very into conspiracy theories and stuff like that.
Very into drugs.
He's not 'well' anymore.

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posted November 22, 2011 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy moon in the 8th square saturn. I am very, very deep and emotional, but my face is usually an expressionless mask. I feel too much, I have to almost shut myself down.

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posted December 11, 2011 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump

it's weird cuz i am a 4th house moon (taurus) and if i try to keep my face still and expressionless, the emotion stops with it. my face is EXTREMELY expressive (it's annoying; can't hide a thing i am feeling unless i try very very hard).

the guy i am seeing has moon in cap. this thread has helped me understand him a lot better. i'm pretty sure his moon is also in the 10th.

here's a question to the cappy moons: what is with the moments, bursts of pouring out your heart and then the weird retreat that almost seem like a denial? i dunno, we were together in a casual way for 9 months (at least on paper), but our bond was very strong, quietly but deeply emotional, when he allowed it or could relax with it (i have intimacy issues too but his seem stronger). then we stopped seeing eachother for a few months (he hurt me pretty badly basically by denying his feelings, but there was more to that) and then he won me back by being extremely open about his feelings about me for a couple of weeks, through several emails a day. then on our first encounter/talk/date he was extremely emotional and seemed totally COMFORTABLE with it too (well not totally, but made a huge point to express his feelings and was consistent the entire night), and on our second date he was so held back for most of it. it confused me so much. so is that a fear of rejection or something?

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posted December 11, 2011 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When open,we are naturally feeling as liberated.
Then that moments pass,and we feel uncomfortable we shared more. We remember that it is not exactly who we are.
Feelings are not false,in any way. Just... being exposed feels wrong.(especially if short relationship)
I bet in first round he thought-Oh,I can do this!- Then,not so much
I think it is firm proof of his interest that he acted the way he did.

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posted December 11, 2011 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
woah cakes - I think the on&off thing is something a lot of women complain about in men. I made a thread about this ages ago.. where i found quotes from LL - about a guy of every sun sign - blowing hot and cold.

Maybe it means he is unsure or still deciding what he wants to happen with you guys.

I don't really see it as a Capricorn Moon thing. Capricorn is such an old sign.. They've been round the block karmically.. They've been rejected before.. They're not afraid of that.. It's a thick-skinned placement (very much the opposite of Cancer Moon).
Cap Moons have usually been through something painful or through a difficult chain of situations - early on in life. So a lot of everyday things like dating & classic relationship problems... seem like 'small/tiny issues' in comparison to what they have been through in the past. They are almost desensitized to these things. They are also usually forgiving and understanding because not much in human behaviour surprises them.

If his Moon is square or opposite something - that can alter its influence.. or if he has a strong influence in a different sign. I'm sure a Cap Moon guy with say - a stellium in Sagittarius - will behave more fiery/emotional overall (maybe not quite that desensitized ^)

It's difficult to generalize about any one placement... but I would say that whatever it is in your lova-boy's chart that is accountable for his behaviour (especially the times when he was emotional & passionate and the times when he seemed undecided or emotionally schizophrenic... being warm and then cold..) - is not Capricorn Moon.

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posted December 11, 2011 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahhhh.. that must be it! thank you, venus!! the thing about him when he gets withdrawn, though, is he gets this tone in his voice that makes me feel like i'm being rejected! though that second night he went on for quite a while about how burdened he feels in general (he is such a hard worker, and very hard on himself) and seemed to equate being intimate with WORK. after that i was able to relax him, sensing the difficulty he has just RELAXING with his feelings and he seemed very grateful and that tone disappeared. still though there is an uncomfortableness with emotion that makes me feel that i am being pushed away and i am very sensitive so it is difficult not to feel that is he actually uncomfortable with *me*.

the other thing is that we have venus, AC, merc, sun and moon (sun and moon are exactly cj) in pisces in composite trining scorpio mars, so we are soooo fluid/emotional when we are 'as one' but we vacillate between that and this other mode so it is very weird and confusing!

i suppose the best way to handle him would be to NOT try to get him to open up about his feelings right? the problem for me is that he spent 9 months being close with me and then intentionally pushing me away. the past three months he came to realize how much he cares for me, and i do believe him, but when he started getting stoic again it started to freak me out since it is reminding me of our past and the last thing i want to do is make it harder for him to change if he is sincere (which i believe he is) by exacerbating his difficulties in any way. so should i just take his feelings as a given and *not* try to get verbal confirmation, but act as though i already have it?

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posted December 12, 2011 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BB,I see your point,but this is not the case of emotional schizophrenia( amazingly witty) .
I am certain he regretted the action itself and solely,not emotions. He dared into unknown and slipped back to old himself.
There is that need with Cappy Moons,where they expect from you just to know what they are made of-a proof that they have made good choice. Proof of well-placed trust.

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posted December 12, 2011 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are the best, best moon placement IMO

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woah cakes
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posted December 12, 2011 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
betty, i just saw your other post..

hmmmmm. okay well it is certainly true that he has been through hell and i see how it correlates. i have been through an eerily similar hell (psychotic and neglectful parents, both of us).. and yes in many ways he's very mature and wise.

i do think his overall chart explains a lot as to his behaviour as well as our synastry.. however reading through this thread i felt very comforted by the fact that most of the cap moons admitted a reticence with the expression of emotion. he explained to me that his pushing me away before had to do with him thinking he had to be strong and unaffected, but there is more to it (his daughter is afraid of him being close with anyone because her mother is mentally ill and he married someone else for a short time as well). and on our new 'first' date he acknowledged all of his feelings and i was totally floored by it because of how uncharacteristic it was. however, he has had a history of being less than sexually repressed which piques my insecurities, especially when he seems pulled back, or undemonstrative emotionally.

[interestingly, his stellium of mars, pluto and uranus in virgo in his 5th and his sun/venus conjunction in taurus BOTH conjunct two of my planets and i believe those placements of his were what contributed or compelled toward sexual irresponsibility. he promises he will not hurt me again (he slept with my friend very soon after i walked away) and i 100% believe his sincerity. his sun/venus are on my chiron (venus exact) and my saturn is exactly (to the minute, 1'27 degs each way) the midpoint of his pluto/uranus, so i think i bring stability to that trio and genuine deeper emotional healing to his sun/venus.]

and for all i know i could be exaggerating his coolness, or the meaning of it, in my mind because of my own issues. it's just that he is really quiet and i fill in the blanks, especially after having experiened him being so determined to show me his feelings.

but yeah i can see that he is embarrassed or even that he wants me to take it as a given; there is nothing in his behaviour that makes me doubt his sincerity, i just don't know whether to encourage him to open up more or to leave it alone, since he talked quite a bit about how he wanted to show me his feelings and allow himself to be close with me from now on, and then he seemed to slip back somewhat, which makes me think maybe he is just afraid and needs my encouragement! but maybe not. maybe my encouragement should just be my own emotional presence.

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posted December 12, 2011 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There is that need with Cappy Moons,where they expect from you just to know what they are made of-a proof that they have made good choice. Proof of well-placed trust.

do you mean that they feel that they have made a good choice IF they feel you trust them? is that because they value their wisdom and ability to reach for the best -who would also naturally trust them, for all their innate wisdom - kind of thing? and are you also saying that it is HIS well placed trust in me being able to do so, or do i have that totally backwards??

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posted December 12, 2011 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy Moons know they made good choice when they see that you can trust them without asking proof in return : you don't ask to emotionally explain themselves,to be expressive,to share etc.
By not doing it,Cappy Moon sees it as -she gets me- kind of deal. That situation gives them peace,so they in their own time can open up. Cuz,they really feel the pressure when ppl start expecting things from them in emotional department. They feel pressure,but they are not moved by it
Also,they love to test the one they care about. And they are proud ppl. So,rejection may have many faces.

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posted December 12, 2011 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
holy CRAP venus that sounds just like him..

yes, when i have been confident in what i felt his feelings to be he was always very relaxed, protective, warm, and that, i think, is when the composite comes into play and we have a very fluid emotional connectivity and natural intimacy (without speaking to it). and that isn't to say he doesn't struggle with his feelings, cuz i know he does, but i can definitely see that he needs me to trust him and i know it took a LOT for him to open up as much as he did.

and yes he hates pressure, expectations. he really has an astounding degree of autonomous authority (which i find VERY attractive).

gosh, in what ways do they test?? i need to know! one thing i think they test FOR is reliability, consistency, right? but i'm curious as to their methods because sometimes this dude is a complete enigma.

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posted December 12, 2011 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here's the thing though..

he did something that made me afraid to trust him. and he put a considerable amount of energy into assuring me that he learned his lesson and wants to prove it to me. so, should i really be 'giving' him my trust so readily, and shouldn't i be expecting him to prove himself; wouldn't it make more sense for him to earn it over time?

cuz i mean i totally see where you're coming from but at the same time the fact that he's cooled off a bit makes me want to hold back my gratitude/trust, you know? but then i wonder if he's just shy/embarrassed or whatever and needs help opening up again?

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posted December 12, 2011 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by woah cakes:
gosh, in what ways do they test?? i need to know! one thing i think they test FOR is reliability, consistency, right? but i'm curious as to their methods because sometimes this dude is a complete enigma.

No one really knows As a Cappy Moon myself,I still find new,creative ways!

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cuz i mean i totally see where you're coming from but at the
same time the fact that he's cooled off a bit makes me
want to hold back my gratitude/trust, you know? but then i
wonder if he's just shy/embarrassed or whatever and needs
help opening up again?

I know what you mean. Don't respond to cold with cold. Be subtly...reliable

This is really good thread,I reread it again...

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posted December 12, 2011 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus & woah cakes -

I'm basing my posts mainly on myself (Cap Moon) and my ex who has a Cap Moon. But I'm almost positive that there are generational differences. We both have a Capricorn Neptune as well which is prominent in our charts (conj Mars in mine.. and conj AC in his).

Neptune dissolves pride. I think this is why I don't see this pride and 'fear of rejection' thing in myself.. or in my ex. I've never been a 'proud' person. I find it silly.. because what's the point at the end of the day? Where is all this pride going to get us? We all get rejected .. We all experience pain in life. It's impossible to hide from this.

I didn't think Cap-influenced people would go out of their way to avoid emotional pain or rejection. You can't avoid that in virtue of being alive. Isn't this just being realistic? Or am I being pessimistic in saying this? lol

When I love someone my pride means nothing. I just want us to be happy at the end of the day. Being an Aries Sun, I always think this side of me is more like Capricorn (the lack of pride).. But maybe it is in particular Cap *Neptune*...

Venus' replies might be more accurate for the man you are dating - because he'd probably be older.. so he wouldn't have the Cappy Neptune happening!

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posted December 12, 2011 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
woah -

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his stellium of mars, pluto and uranus in virgo in his 5th

Mars/Pluto guys are usually very controlled and careful about expressing their emotions. They can be sexually aggressive.. but even that is very controlled and pre-planned almost.

I'm not sure how Uranus would change this ^

Also - overall he is *extra* earthy... Much more earthy than myself & my ex. Earth can be very laid back and cool.. at least on the surface - until you get them to really open up.
It's all about the context. Maybe in the context of his chart the Capricorn Moon is colder or less expressive.

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posted December 12, 2011 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When I love someone my pride means nothing.

Moon/Nep conj here.That could be one of poster notions for Nep Cap in contact with personal planets.
Hm,why my pride takes the lead..

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posted December 12, 2011 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus – Could it be Mars?

We’re looking at the Moon for pride.. but maybe Mars is pride. Because I have Mars on Neptune. My Moon is 13 degrees away.

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posted December 12, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pride is an important part of emptional integrity and autonomy. One can look at Moon from that standing point.
Mars as one of two moving forces,along with Sun,can also shape pride.
Hm,your Sun is disposited by that Mars... As you said,ego dissolving,and therefore pride as well.

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posted December 13, 2011 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you guys.

i just figured out WHY capricorn is the best placement for moon ever (despite it being in fall or whatever nonsense). i had a great phone conversation with my dude and it is all clear to me now.

capricorn moon is the MATURE VERSION of cancer moon. simply. no, really. that's really all there is to it. case closed.

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posted December 13, 2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah cakes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i meant to elaborate and will later.. also thanks to you both for your insights!

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posted December 15, 2011 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nothingbutaname     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by woah cakes:
i meant to elaborate and will later.. also thanks to you both for your insights!

*Bump* Definitely want to hear your elaboration of this, personally I think you're onto something. I have cap moon in the first house (conjunct AC, Neptune, and Uranus and sextile Scorp Sun) so I'm curious to hear this.

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