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posted January 03, 2012 05:48 PM            

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thanks regardes! yeah, i know right! i really did have no choice but to walk away when he said that. to me it is totally disrespectful (it was him doing this in the first place that made him lose me.. and he ASSURED ME he was done denying his feelings). i grant that he is possibly not able to see outside the perimeters of the depth of the responsibilities piled atop him at this time, and i respect that. i just cannot stand dishonesty. i cannot stand feeling disregarded especially after making promises, being so sorry for putting me through this for almost a year prior.

i think being too responsible can be a crutch, a weakness, and in this case it seems likely to be the case. that is, if he was being honest initially. thanks for your words of hope and encouragement. i'm trying to stifle this impulse in myself currently, cuz, well, it hurts too much to hope.

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posted January 03, 2012 05:51 PM            

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aww, thanks for the shimmering rose

yeah, i feel like he wasn't lying, but then why be so adamantly in denial? bahhh..

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posted January 03, 2012 07:08 PM            

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i also made it a point- an absolute bottom line necessity- that he be SURE that he wanted to be with me again and that it entailed honouring his feelings for me. he worked hard to prove this was his intention for two weeks before i would even see him (and even more so when i finally did), so i do not see how this could be some sort of misunderstanding unless he lied. i mean i guess i can see that he's too overwhelmed and scared again but now it seems like he's acting like he never even said any of that stuff and it is effing with my mind. where is that cappy integrity when you need it??

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posted January 03, 2012 07:11 PM            

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do you think this could have anything to do with neptune in his 7th? my uranus is right on it. the ruler of his moon, saturn, is ruled by neptune and, shplunk, there it all ends up, in his 7th, confused and confusing. maybe?

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posted January 03, 2012 07:22 PM            

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<---- Cappy Moon who loves to cuddle. Very tactile. Generally blunt but emotionally guarded until love and trust have been achieved.

This is a fascinating thread -- thank you.

Leo Rising, Aries Sun, Cappy Moon. Moon exactly conjunct Jupiter, in the 5th.

The Capricorn moon would prefer to show you how much she loves you, than tell you. At least till she feels the love is reciprocated, and she can trust you.

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posted January 04, 2012 01:15 AM            

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Just like you said,he is acting = pretending It is not denial,just he chose not to deal with his feelings. Which Cappy Moon does-compartmentalize.
And his integrity is shown in the way he behaves regarding his family,and not budging an inch in direction that might be upsetting for them.

Oh,he has H7 Neptune... Oh,I am old-fashioned sometimes like this when I say I really don't like to see H7 Neptune.

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posted January 04, 2012 01:49 AM            

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why do you hate it?? i have an aproximate birth time but rectified it with all my might and feel quite certain that's where it is (otherwise things shift like his moon from his 10th to his 9th, nope, his neptune into his 6th which i really don't see since he is obsessed with work and there is no 'haze' in that department), but i suppose it could be in his 6th or heck anywhere if his mom's memory is off.

yeah he is acting. compartmentalizing, fine, but not when you go to drastic lengths to say you are going to be consistent and prove yourself and then all of a sudden as soon as she begins to trust you you are cold and unconcerned with your effect on her. that is more like schizophrenia! i need to be respected and everything he said to me last night was him behaving as though those full two weeks of endless emails and efforts did not happen, nor ANY of the things he said to make me feel i could trust him. is this a 7th neptune thing?? it's freaking ANNOYING.

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posted January 04, 2012 01:59 AM            

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^ I'm confused as to timeline of events. But post synastry etc. in another thread, re-explain if you have the patience and I will take a look.

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posted January 04, 2012 02:03 AM            

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it also makes no sense to me that he spent two months missing me and realizing what i meant to him, assuring me of my importance to him and trying so hard to assure me he would not do any of that distancing stuff again, and then pretty much within two weeks was back to his old behaviour. i *completely* get his dedication to his family and i did not push ONCE for any sort of merging/big introduction as i knew it would take considerable time (i just listened and never brought it up), even though i brought it up here (but that was more because he kept talking about it and it confused me). so: why would he be so sure (and as all cap moons are saying, their feelings take time and they don't really speak to them until they are sure and that is exactly how it seemed) and then fall back into this old pattern that undermine those efforts he'd made?

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posted January 04, 2012 02:11 AM            

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okay sure.. what timeline type stuff are you looking for?

we got together officially december 1 2010, broke up sept 4 2011 and got back together nov 30 2011. anything else you need to know? i'll start a new thread.

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posted January 04, 2012 02:12 AM            

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How approximate his time of birth is?

Oh,that's Cappy all the way,' I will let go' and while he liked it so much,in retrospective he would just think 'that's not me' and get back to old ways!

He needs to be assured,and that assurance comes through time. I know you said/did so much,and I have been in similar situations,all I can say,paradoxically,it is not about you. It is the circumstance.

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posted January 04, 2012 02:21 AM            

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oh.. hmm, okay well that makes sense. eff, i dunno, i feel really confused. he knew i had trouble trusting him because of before and i feel like he should have at least made some follow up effort thereafter, as he said he would, to prove he'd meant those things. but maybe that is asking too much.

the time his mom gave was "right before sunrise around 6". the chart that suits him most is 6:12ish. he is *definitely* not an aries or gemini rising, so it's got to be taurus (and he does seem like it, looks, mannerisms, etc). i'll get the charts up in another thread.

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posted January 04, 2012 02:23 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Oh,that's Cappy all the way,' I will let go' and while he liked it so much,in retrospective he would just think 'that's not me' and get back to old ways!

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Can you explain this more simply cos I don't understand this?

@WC I will look at those dates in the new thread.

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posted January 04, 2012 02:27 AM            

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venus.. oh my word girl.

okay i felt what you meant and i texted him: "can you call me or can i call you? i wonder if my trust/faith in you could still be lingering, that maybe you're just so overwhelmed that i'm taking things wrong" and he responded with "that's closer to it. there is an intentional line."

wow, you cap moons are weird. but at least you understand yourselves! i say that with affection.

i mean he didn't get back to me all day.. till i said this (and i said/asked many things). he waited, i guess? and risked losing me to faulty perception?

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posted January 04, 2012 02:28 AM            

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okay. lonake, i think she means 'let go' as in, into emotions and connection.. ? that's how i took it.

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posted January 04, 2012 02:29 AM            

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wow, you cap moons are weird. but at least you understand yourselves!

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I'm still lost but Venus here is gonna help me out. She's the supah-expaht.
Yea I agree w.weirdness.

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posted January 04, 2012 02:31 AM            

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okay. lonake, i think she means 'let go' as in, into emotions and connection.. ? that's how i took it.

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HAHA ok I can relate now.
Well it looks like it at least opened a door?

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posted January 04, 2012 02:32 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
[b]Oh,that's Cappy all the way,' I will let go' and while he liked it so much,in retrospective he would just think 'that's not me' and get back to old ways!

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Can you explain this more simply cos I don't understand this?

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Just imagine Cappy Moon doing sth that's not in their nature.
Like,confessing their feelings in open and dramatic manner(or crying in public places ).
So,somebody talks to Cappy Moon and says..'Try it! It's so good! Just open up'
Cappy Moon ventures into that shady business.
And,for the moment,Cappy Moon likes it.'Oh,I am gonna be like this from now on'
And,some time passes,Cappy Moon thinks about it...'WHAT HAVE I DONE?!'
Just slips back into Cappy Moon natural status.
Other people may see it as schizophrenia

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Awwwwww. You have Leo too. Sweet.
Venus & I also have Cappy & Leo in BIG 3.
Trillian, were you in a relationship w.a Cappy Moon, and was there a lot of pride to get past, as Venus mentions? Or have you safely avoided that trap?

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posted January 04, 2012 02:37 AM            

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And,some time passes,Cappy Moon thinks about it...'WHAT HAVE I DONE?!'
Just slips back into Cappy Moon natural status.
Other people may see it as schizophrenia

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GRIN!
I have NO IDEA to what you're referring!!!!
lol if only.
Thank you my Sweet

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posted January 04, 2012 02:39 AM            

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yeah i get it. SIGH. what a freak. but it was literally three emails a day begging me to trust him and come back to him, and things of that nature.. how could he sustain such a thing so long and then slip back? was it cuz the effort was required (i did need him to prove himself) and they throw themselves into whatever they deem necessary? emails are not the same as grand emotional gestures; they're easier.. but still. it was the same flavour. and yes he opened up like i've never seen him before the night we got back together and it was so beautiful.

i wonder if he jumped on this text cuz he didn't want to let me go but is now not replying to my follow up because.. that is his nature? it's still a little hazy.. about the line.. the line of him keeping me and his family separated i guess?

okay i better get on those charts. you guys are hilarious.

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posted January 04, 2012 02:42 AM            

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Confessions of a Cappy Moon

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posted January 04, 2012 02:45 AM            

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^ Well then I praise your self-awareness!

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posted January 04, 2012 02:46 AM            

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Woah,not a freak! Special

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posted January 04, 2012 02:48 AM            

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Well to her credit he's backtracked a bit.

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