posted January 05, 2012 08:19 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Also, for the people with the strong Scorpio/8th house influence, do you find yourself having an unusual effect on others sexually? Like you get unwarranted attention or many people of the same sex, who normally profess to be heterosexual, seem really into you? It might sound conceited but it's true for me. It's kind of like I bring out 'the forbidden' in them. I've made more than a few 'straight' guys question themselves.

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Wow interesting. I have a Gemini stellium in the 8th house, Scorpio ASC with Pluto conj the MC.

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posted January 05, 2012 10:27 PM            

Aspects I have that I feel could explain this are:

Gemini in the 7th

Venus conjunct Mars

Aspects to my venus conjunct mars that could reinforce this:

trine neptune

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posted January 05, 2012 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
A Virgo once told me me that Scorpios get all the hype, but Virgo's are able to back it up! Strangely, I've never forgotten this, lol!

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posted January 05, 2012 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Well I am virgo and is not true for me...pretty open minded but do have stellium involving uranus, rising and jupiter.

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posted January 05, 2012 11:56 PM            

In women, when it comes to sexuality, Venus is how we attract men. It's our "active" planet. Mars is what we are attracted to - our "passive" planet. When a woman is homosexual or bisexual, her "active" sexual planet is Mars, thus Venus becomes "passive". It sort of explains my Capricorn friend from college. She had no attraction (almost a distaste) for the male physique, but was extremely attracted to the female physique. She also would tell me about her dreams where she was a man. She would fantasize about having genitalia and what it would be like to make love to her girlfriend. Every year, she went through the ritual of shaving her head because she felt more natural that way. I believe that she associated herself with her Mars (masculine) energy and her sexuality was more focused on the essence on of her Venus, her feminine ideal.

Does that make sense?

For example, tautomer4314 associates himself much more with his Gemini Venus than his Cancer Mars, so much as to feel that his Cancer Mars is weak. Hence, a role reversal. His psyche is focused on embracing his "feminine" energy, therefore his Mars becomes his romantic ideal...

Venus rules over subjects such as:
http://www.myastrologybook.com/Venus-in-astrology.htm

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"...love, relatedness, values, social urges, art, beauty, creation, attraction, luck, personal magnetism, money, nurturing mother love, sensuality, bonding energy, harmony and merging."

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Mars rules over subjects such as:
http://www.myastrologybook.com/Mars-in-astrology.htm

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"...the human libido, not merely sexualized energy but human energy pure and simple—the Chi. It represents how you go after what you want, your drive and energy to be active, your sexual and aggressive urges, ego, individuality, survival, initiative, motivation, courage, conflict, force, vigor, mechanical ability, competition, sports, combativeness and war. It is the energy behind your feelings, whatever they are, and thus represents passion. In the physical body it rules the muscles, male genitalia, red corpuscles, nose and the excretory tract. Mars in your chart is where your energy is directed and released, and where you have strife, discord, and tension if not handled properly. In a female chart it represents her image of male energy.

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In conclusion, homosexuality occurs when a man does not identify with his Mars, or a woman does not identify with her Venus. This is where placement and aspects come into play. There are several factors that can come into play, found evident in the different forms of sexuality seen today - such as bisexuality, transsexuality, asexuality. A woman can either have a "weak" Venus or strong Mars (or both). Same with a man. Then there are aspects to planets such as Uranus, Saturn, and Pluto. Aspects to the 8th House ruler is also important.

posted January 06, 2012 12:03 AM            

Bravo miss, I think you are really on to something

posted January 06, 2012 12:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
It does sound like a plausible hypothesis. Now we need some INTJ to gather and analyze the data.

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ISTJ's are the go to people for that. I <3 them.

posted January 06, 2012 12:18 AM            

Okay, SO I have Mars in Cancer in the 7th and Venus in Taurus in the 5th. I'm attracted to solid, strong, manly men... but not like bodybuilder strong. I like when they have a little chub to them. Thin dudes, unless they're furry, don't really do it for me.

My Venus is exactly conjunct my NN, and since it's in its domicile it's strong in my chart. Mars is trine Pluto while Venus is quincunx Uranus and opposite Saturn. Ruler of the 8th is my Virgo Moon in the 9th, which is square Uranus, trine Venus and sextile Mars.

posted January 06, 2012 12:18 AM              

Amelia: According to "The Zodiac of Death," Venus conjunct Mars shows up a whole lot in the charts of serial killers. :O

posted January 06, 2012 12:33 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
LOL Fondue, I love when what I say causes a slight mental breakdown. So much fun. (Mercury square Mars) BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

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posted January 06, 2012 08:49 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
LOL Fondue, I love when what I say causes a slight mental breakdown. So much fun. (Mercury square Mars) BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

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posted January 06, 2012 09:27 AM            

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Something interesting I've noticed is how many people with a strong Taurus influence are so straight-laced sexually. Sure, they are deeply sensual and love sex but they are also very 'vanilla'. Virgo gets the reputation as the straightlaced sign sexually, but I think Taurus is more conservative actually. Which makes sense because it's Scorpio's opposite.

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posted January 06, 2012 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Okay, my theory: I believe that homosexuality can be indicated by a "role reversal" found between Venus and Mars. Let me explain.

In women, when it comes to sexuality, Venus is how we attract men. It's our "active" planet. Mars is what we are attracted to - our "passive" planet. When a woman is homosexual or bisexual, her "active" sexual planet is Mars, thus Venus becomes "passive". It sort of explains my Capricorn friend from college. She had no attraction (almost a distaste) for the male physique, but was extremely attracted to the female physique. She also would tell me about her dreams where she was a man. She would fantasize about having genitalia and what it would be like to make love to her girlfriend. Every year, she went through the ritual of shaving her head because she felt more natural that way. I believe that she associated herself with her Mars (masculine) energy and her sexuality was more [b]focused on the essence on of her Venus, her feminine ideal.

Does that make sense?

For example, tautomer4314 associates himself much more with his Gemini Venus than his Cancer Mars, so much as to feel that his Cancer Mars is weak. Hence, a role reversal. His psyche is focused on embracing his "feminine" energy, therefore his Mars becomes his romantic ideal...

Venus rules over subjects such as:
http://www.myastrologybook.com/Venus-in-astrology.htm
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In conclusion, homosexuality occurs when a man does not identify with his Mars, or a woman does not identify with her Venus. This is where placement and aspects come into play. There are several factors that can come into play, found evident in the different forms of sexuality seen today - such as bisexuality, transsexuality, asexuality. A woman can either have a "weak" Venus or strong Mars (or both). Same with a man. Then there are aspects to planets such as Uranus, Saturn, and Pluto. Aspects to the 8th House ruler is also important.

So... any thoughts? I'm pretty sure no one will comment because no one ever listens to my theories. :\[/B]

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there is a bunch of bisexual women who like been women and do not fantasize about been a man...There a bi women who are feminine and like feminine women. Your theory would explain more the muscaline lesbian more than bi chicks.

women's brains are more laterized this results in women been more prone to been bi among other things that is why there are a lot more more bi women than bi men....men tend to be either gay or straight...there level of testosterone makes them like a lot whatever they like, either way.

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posted January 06, 2012 01:01 PM              

At a rather secluded all-female educational institution, 25% of a class is lesbian or bi at enrollment but increases to 75% by graduation. I wish I was recording people's birth dates back then. Would be interesting to see astrological differences between that 75% and the unchanged 25%...in terms of natal placements, transits...

posted January 06, 2012 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Ya I read that women are latently bi.

At a rather secluded all-female educational institution, 25% of a class is lesbian or bi at enrollment but increases to 75% by graduation. I wish I was recording people's birth dates back then. Would be interesting to see astrological differences between that 75% and the unchanged 25%...in terms of natal placements, transits...

I don't think there would be such a dramatic shift at an all-male institute...if so, it would probably be a power issue.

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