posted January 06, 2012 01:55 PM            

The beauty of the theory is that it explains sexual preference in a very simple manner, but doesn't limit the scope of possible aspects or scenarios that can lead to the final results.

For example, you have Venus and Mars in Leo? Can't remember the sign, but regardless, because your Venus and Mars are in the same sign, you may switch from embracing your Venus to your Mars energy in a very subtle way in accordance to transits, progressions or even SYNASTRY with a certain person!

That also explains why my Capricorn friend is dating a man now. Perhaps in their synastry, his energy allows or influences her to associate with her Venus instead of Mars.

posted January 06, 2012 02:51 PM              

Almost got with one who was questionable. Another Capricorn. He acts very much like his Venus sign, which is in keeping with Liz's theory/hypothesis. What's puzzling is, why would he find his Moon/Venus more comfortable when he has an Exalted Mars?

posted January 06, 2012 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Most guys I've interacted with are decidedly straight.

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Of course I'm not trying to say everyone is bisexual. Sexuality is not just black and white. If your are completely attracted to the opposite sex then thats your preference and the way you are.

posted January 06, 2012 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Most guys I've interacted with are decidedly straight. Like 8/10. Makes sense cuz straight guys would gravitate towards girls.

Almost got with one who was questionable. Another Capricorn. He acts very much like his Venus sign, which is in keeping with Liz's theory/hypothesis. What's puzzling is, why would he find his Moon/Venus more comfortable when he has an Exalted Mars?

Probably due to some progression/transit combo. He told me some wild stories about the things he did with his roommates and that woulda been during a Pluto transit to his Venus.

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posted January 06, 2012 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:


Well being a male myself most guys shun other guys for not being straight. Especially when their younger. . I think most people block out these feelings. If you can be attracted to both genders why not stick with women. Honestly life would easier. I want have a family too one day, I've even thought life would be more simple if I were just to stick with women.
I've had a friend who was pretty much your typical guy and one day just told me how he felt about me. Also I live out in country, I only have 2 friends who are not straight friends....

Of course I'm not trying to say everyone is bisexual. Sexuality is not just black and white. If your are completely attracted to the opposite sex then thats your preference and the way you are.

Ancient greeks use to openly have homosexual relationships. Actually it was a custom. Men were found to be more beautiful then women in that period. That how their society was. Even their was a custom with older men having relationships when boys.... but thats a different story. My point is their society found it acceptable for that to be okay.

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mmm, no I don't agree with this. What a person is attracted to is actually not very complicated, and people aren't "blocking" feelings for others because it's easier. I agree that sexuality is not black and white. However, I do not believe that everyone is inheriently going to have some interest in both sexes. Don't forget how you feel inside is an independent variable of external actions.

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
But you are attracted to the same sex?

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That's actually rather common. Same with hetereosexuals, just inverted. This also has a lot to do with personal identity with a given gender and the relation to them.

To me it seems like gay men who befriend women easier are generally (which mean of course, there are exceptions to the rule), more feminine/effiminate and or are fearful/intimidated by masculine personalities or apperances, and thus are intimidated by it (which could be due to a variety of reasons)

posted January 06, 2012 03:55 PM            

while im romantically attracted to both men and women im sexually attracted only to men

cant seem to identify any aspects to cause that sort of thing.... maybe someone else could

posted January 06, 2012 04:33 PM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
mmm, no I don't agree with this. What a person is attracted to is actually not very complicated, and people aren't "blocking" feelings for others because it's easier. I agree that sexuality is not black and white. However, I do not believe that everyone is inheriently going to have some interest in both sexes. Don't forget how you feel inside is an independent variable of external actions.
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posted January 06, 2012 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by ElizabethO:
Also, when a woman embraces her Mars energy instead of Venus, it doesn't mean she wants to be butch. A woman can still be outwardly feminine but inwardly driven by masculine energies emanating from her Mars placement i.e. if a woman has a "feminine" Mars such as Virgo or Capricorn. Look at Lady Gaga. She very much comes across as womanly and effeminate, but she also clearly embraces her Capricorn Mars energy. She possesses this raw, masculine energy that I can't quite put my finger on... Did you ever see her as Joe Calderone at the VMA's this year? AMAZING!

She's bisexual, and I do believe that she identifies with both her Venus and Mars strongly, being able to "switch sides" according to her will.

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Yeah she does have this masculine thing going! I have picked up on that too...had no idea she was bi....

I have heard Angelina Jolie is bi...but she in my opinion doesn't have that masculine thing going although I bet she is very in touch with her mars but she comes off predominantly feminine.

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posted January 06, 2012 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Yeah, I went through a transition (major transit to Venus) and came out very "straight." Which is tougher on the heart but easier socially. Also, I find it dull when someone is too similar to me, including gender.

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Interesting so you use to be bi or gay and after a major transit involving venus came out straight? so now you like predominantly men and you are a female??

Personally I predominantly love men but occasionally can be attracted to a chick...I have only liked a chick once really and even told her...she had venus/mars in pisces and I have venus/mars in Leo and I am a virgo and she was a pisces , my husband even knows about it.

Husband just explained that depending on mood I have times were I am very feminine and soft and times were I am feminine and tough...She was similar to me in this way.

posted January 06, 2012 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Yeah, I guess I might've been attracted to girls because guys my age were kinda....undeveloped. But girls at that age look good. The Pluto transit seemed to make me question, "But is this what you REALLY want???" By the time I was 20 and the transit had time to fully unfold, I decided I love guys. Straight ones only pls! Scorpio Venus here can't bear the competition that a bisexual dude would bring about, when I'm not "equipped" to compete.

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That makes sense the timing this happened to you...

posted January 06, 2012 09:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Chironrising:
I notice that when I am exposed to pornography, my sexuality morphs but only in a way that requires more stimulation...and more extreme conditions...

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I am the same way. I am that way with most anything though. Always wanting to take it to the next level with no limit, or until it causes pain of some kind. Sort of an aside, but this is the number one reason why I will NEVER do MDMA (ecstasy), despite my overwhelming curiosity. That is the epitome of happiness that one can achieve (chemically induced or not), and it would be absolutely crushing to me to know that the only way to ever feel that good again would be to do this drug. I can't allow myself to know what the peak is like with anything, because that is the "end", which is crushing in many ways.

posted January 06, 2012 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Sort of an aside, but this is the number one reason why I will NEVER do MDMA (ecstasy), despite my overwhelming curiosity. That is the epitome of happiness that one can achieve (chemically induced or not), and it would be absolutely crushing to me to know that the only way to ever feel that good again would be to do this drug. I can't allow myself to know what the peak is like with anything, because that is the "end", which is crushing in many ways.

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Don't worry, it is nothing close to the peak of happiness. I have consumed lots of E in all sorts of settings. Anyone who believes that feeling is the peak has never heard great music, hiked to the top of a mountain, been to Hawaii, or dove into the pacific ocean at sunset. I'm not advocating drug use, I'm just stating that MDMA doesn't deserve that high of a pedestal in my experience.

posted January 07, 2012 01:56 AM              

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Originally posted by Doreen:
Venus conjunct Uranus is an indicator I've seen it in the charts of a lot of gay/bi people also Venus in Gemini and never heard of the Venus conjunct Pluto part though.

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posted January 08, 2012 04:17 PM            

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However, I do not believe that everyone is inheriently going to have some interest in both sexes. Don't forget how you feel inside is an independent variable of external actions.

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EDIT: I misread that quote- I do agree with the above poster!*

But you see... That's the thing, I don't agree with that. I am a STRAIGHT woman, and I mean STRAIGHT. I didn't grow up with religion, and my parents would have accepted me if I were in any way of a different sexual orientation, etc, but I have absolutely NO (zero, zip, nada) attraction to other women. In fact, I find the idea of having sex with other women repulsive. I could tell you that another woman was pretty, but that's about it. I've known gay men who felt the same way. HOWEVER, I do think that sexuality DOES run on a continuum and that most people fall somewhere along it... I just happen to fall way at the end on the straight side.

And, I also have the dreaded Uranus square Venus. Ironically, I probably would be ok dating a guy I knew was bisexual, so long as he stayed faithful to me in the confines of a monogamous relationship. I've known many straight women who would not be ok with this at all.