posted January 12, 2012 11:00 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
ASTRAEA: Blocked closure; staying to “the end” (the sometimes bitter end believing that “it ain't over 'til it's over”—even if it already is; an inability to read beginnings and endings or to “let go” of things, people or events; the witnessing of events.

Asteroid Astraea is asteroid number 5.

ATROPOS: Endings, completion, conditions at the finish, what is needed to conclude.

Asteroid Atropos is number 273.

Personally very tight composite pluto aspects with my ex is what made it so hard to let go of him for years but if you don't have strong pluto composite aspects with your ex maybe is one of these asteroids playing out in synastry or composite.

With my HUSBAND in composite we have atropos conjunct venus, I dont know what it means but I am sure that is clue to the puzzle of purpose of our relationship which is perhaps pay our karmic debts to each other and find closure to this union in this lifetime.

Astraea is specifically an asteroid that deals with having difficulty with endings so perhaps you have a significant aspect natally or a significant aspect in the synastry or composite with this guy you are talking about involving astraea.

With EX atropos squares uranus in composite and our break up was out of the blue.

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Oh and here is our Synastry.....

posted January 12, 2012 11:10 PM            

Venus opposite uranus creates interruptions in your relationship and since venus conjuncts chiron this results in pain and healing too. Perhaps the purpose of your relationship is to heal by loving eachother in a detached manner that allows both to have a lot of freedom within the relationship.

I dont know anything about YODS but think you have one involving Venus with him and Yods are significant and could be a big clue of the answer you are searching.

posted January 12, 2012 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
Does her moon falling in his 12th have something to do with the intense feelings?

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Yes.... does it?

posted January 12, 2012 11:16 PM            

Your Composite with Him

Ohhh Astraea trines your Venus/Chiron conjunction!

So difficulty with ending the love relationship which leads to pain and healing so you are in stuck in a cycle with him of not been able to let go, love, pain and healing! and the venus opposition uranus just facilitates further that cycle keeps repeating itself since uranus is unpredictable and can have this break up and make up back and forth effect if Astraea is involved.

....sorry didn't notice that before which is obviously also significant.

posted January 12, 2012 11:26 PM            

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Originally posted by IamLoved:
You know what? Come to think of it.... you might be onto something here!

My 7 degree Venus is opposed my 0 degree Pluto

His 16 degree Venus is tightly trined his 18 degree Pluto

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::feels dead all of a sudden::

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"Topic: I miss him -----Mutual Venus-Pluto aspects------" http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211223.html

"Topic: How has the depth and passion of pluto in relationships transformed you?" http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211235.html

And from the last page of the thread at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211548-4.html

"In regards to this:

quote: Originally posted by Mermaid

I'm curious about you asking about our Pluto aspects in Synastry.How did you arrive at that conclusion? Is it because its conjunct DSC ? We do have Venus/Pluto mutual aspects both under 2deg orb.My Venus trines his Pluto and his Venus squares my Pluto.Venus,BTW is the natal 5th house ruler in both our charts.We also have Pluto sextile Moon 1 deg orb
I was just curious to know if you had any pluto going on since I didn't see any in your composite. Lol. That's all. Pluto is amazing, and I had that DW in synastry with someone too, except it was venus sextile pluto not trine. Imagine how real and true the love was that in elementary school my best friend had this with me in synastry, and then this year I met someone with her same exact birthdate, except this time it was a guy. And we started out as best friends--major chemistry right fom the beginning just like with her, I remember, and then we kind of fell for each other, but there was a race issue. It was the most trnasforming thing I've ever felt, and the deepest truest connection I've ever had with anyone. We had sun-mercury-venus in a stellium in the composite, square mars. It's that my soul would feel like it's been rippe out if I never talk to you again feeling. After experiencing that kind of connection, everything has so much more meaning to me. It was so inspiring.

Please do tell how it's affecting you..!

posted January 12, 2012 11:27 PM            

You will experience the heights and depths, love and hate, attraction and repulsion, agony and ecstasy in this relationship. A powerful, compelling fascination and irresistible sexual attraction draws the two of you together like magnets. You love each other with a depth of feeling that is surprising even to yourselves. The powerful charismatic power that you have over each other can be used to manipulate one another, and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.

posted January 12, 2012 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by IamLoved:
[B]What about you guys? Has this ever happened to you before? And what did you do to cure yourself from this?

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Yes, but I know why and I don't want a cure. I just accept that I'll always be in love with him and that's that.

posted January 12, 2012 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
YOu have a great composite with him but now looking at composite I see you have venus opposite uranus and venus conjunct chiron and I THINK you have a YOD involving Venus so the answer as to why you two are not together in spite of such a nice composite is in Venus.

Venus opposite uranus creates interruptions in your relationship and since venus conjuncts chiron this results in pain and healing too. Perhaps the purpose of your relationship is to heal by loving eachother in a detached manner that allows both to have a lot of freedom within the relationship.

I dont know anything about YODS but think you have one involving Venus with him and Yods are significant and could be a big clue of the answer you are searching.

It would be cool and very interesting if IQ takes a look at this composite and discusses those venus aspects you have with him but this is just my humble opinion and he is a professional astrologer .

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Thanks! And aww why did our venus have to oppose uranus?

He's the one for me... I can just feel it in my heart and soul.

I wish these aspects were strong enough to bring us together and keep us together.

We have......
Sun trine Saturn,
Moon trine Saturn,
Mercury trine Saturn
and Saturn conjunct pluto

I want us to stay together! He's single now too, but we live in 2 different states.

I don't know whether to love or hate chiron...

I am so tired of feeling the pain of longing for this man to enter my life again........

I just love him so much!!!!

I don't even know if he cares and loves me as much as I care and love him. He is the type of man that doesn't like to express his feelings.

And are yod's bad? What is a yod?

Thanks again for this info!

posted January 12, 2012 11:43 PM            

You have a real nice composite with him but your venus is challenging...I had a feeling you two were in different states with that venus opposite uranus and the rest of the venus aspects....

I hope he lets you know how he feels as I am confident he feels the same. All I can say is that I HOPE too that the rest of chart is strong enough to overcome the venus challenges but I think perhaps you have come together to love each other without commitment and without expecting anything from each other. I

dont like chiron. Ex and I only had one thing in our 7th composite cusp and guess what it was?? Chiron........Chiron is painful but letting go of the idea of been with him in a serious relationship might just be what you need in order to stop the suffering. I would just try to enjoy whatever moments I Have with him without expecting anything. I think this is the only way you won't feel the pain that comes from chiron in this relationship.

posted January 12, 2012 11:51 PM            

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Originally posted by IamLoved:
Yes.... does it?

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So far no one has answered. Lol. Wish I could help, I just don't know enough, admittedly.

posted January 12, 2012 11:55 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
According to grupovenus.com
Venus Mutually Aspects Pluto

You will experience the heights and depths, love and hate, attraction and repulsion, agony and ecstasy in this relationship. A powerful, compelling fascination and irresistible sexual attraction draws the two of you together like magnets. You love each other with a depth of feeling that is surprising even to yourselves. The powerful charismatic power that you have over each other can be used to manipulate one another, and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.

<3<3<3<3 #tear

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posted January 12, 2012 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
Beautifully tragic, no?

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Yep. But my point is, this is why IamLoved feels this way. It says it right there in the description even. How much you love each other will surprise even yourselves.

I ask myself all the time. why do i love him so much? Why? And i just don't know why. Inexplicable.

posted January 13, 2012 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Yep. But my point is, this is why IamLoved feels this way. It says it right there in the description even. How much you love each other will surprise even yourselves.

I ask myself all the time. why do i love him so much? Why? And i just don't know why. Inexplicable.

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Oh, yeah I know what you meant, as I've experienced the venus-pluto dw before. I was also wondering if the moon falling in his 12 has anything to do with it also. I imagine at the very least, this gives them some sort of unconscious mental link or tie. Thoughts? I am very intrigued by 12th house placements in synastry.

posted January 13, 2012 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
EDIT:

Your Composite with Him

Ohhh Astraea trines your Venus/Chiron conjunction!

So difficulty with ending the love relationship which leads to pain and healing so you are in stuck in a cycle with him of not been able to let go, love, pain and healing! and the venus opposition uranus just facilitates further that cycle keeps repeating itself since uranus is unpredictable and can have this break up and make up back and forth effect if Astraea is involved.

....sorry didn't notice that before which is obviously also significant.

I feel your pain though bec you do have a nice composite with him, real nice connection.

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Oh wow you're really good at interpreting the meaning of this astrea asteroid!

I feel like apart of me is missing without him.

I also wish that I never met him so that I wouldn't have to feel this way!!!

But thanks! I am grateful to learn the reason why I'm going through all of this!!!

He probably doesn't even obsess over me the way I obsess over him. He probably moved on and here I am stuck thinking about him!

In time I will heal... I hope....

posted January 13, 2012 12:08 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
::feels dead all of a sudden::

-______-

"Topic: I miss him -----Mutual Venus-Pluto aspects------" http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211223.html

"Topic: How has the depth and passion of pluto in relationships transformed you?" http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211235.html

And from the last page of the thread at http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211548-4.html

"In regards to this:

quote: Originally posted by Mermaid

I'm curious about you asking about our Pluto aspects in Synastry.How did you arrive at that conclusion? Is it because its conjunct DSC ? We do have Venus/Pluto mutual aspects both under 2deg orb.My Venus trines his Pluto and his Venus squares my Pluto.Venus,BTW is the natal 5th house ruler in both our charts.We also have Pluto sextile Moon 1 deg orb
I was just curious to know if you had any pluto going on since I didn't see any in your composite. Lol. That's all. Pluto is amazing, and I had that DW in synastry with someone too, except it was venus sextile pluto not trine. Imagine how real and true the love was that in elementary school my best friend had this with me in synastry, and then this year I met someone with her same exact birthdate, except this time it was a guy. And we started out as best friends--major chemistry right fom the beginning just like with her, I remember, and then we kind of fell for each other, but there was a race issue. It was the most trnasforming thing I've ever felt, and the deepest truest connection I've ever had with anyone. We had sun-mercury-venus in a stellium in the composite, square mars. It's that my soul would feel like it's been rippe out if I never talk to you again feeling. After experiencing that kind of connection, everything has so much more meaning to me. It was so inspiring.

Please do tell how it's affecting you..!

PS Something strange... I went on this camping trip with a bunch of religious people. Never been into religion. Actually hate it. Still struggling with accepting it. But it was weird. Because recently after experiencing this DW venus-pluto experience, I set on trying to find the other birthdates I had this DW with, so I could find these people. Surprisingly, there were only 4 birthdates I had any kind of venus-pluto DW with, and strategically I went and figured out which ones I was Most compatible with out of those four using the synastry and composite etc. There were two I was really compatible with, and the other two were kind of like "eh" because the synastry and composite werent so hot. And then I tried narrowing it down to one, and without a doubt there was that one that was super compatible, and 5 times more compatible with me than even the other birthdate. I'm a little spacey so I did all this without remembering something very important. I had met a girl on the camping trip with the second-mos t compatible birthdate, as well as the first-most compatible birthdate. The most compatible one was the birthdate of the guy and of my best friend in elementary! Not just that but they were BOTH in the group that went with us on the trip, so those are the people I spent the most time with, and I got the closest to them! But i did get way closer to the guy (the most compatible birthdate) I was ...puzzled. Really? Out of all the possible birthdates in existence, the two most compatible people i had this amazing dw venus-pluto with were both in the group with me?? Freakin crazy! So now i believe in god a little more. I think there is no way that could be a coincidence. I really think God was trying to set me up with some seriously deep friendships."

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Don't worry I'm sure you'll be okay!

posted January 13, 2012 12:15 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
According to grupovenus.com
Venus Mutually Aspects Pluto

You will experience the heights and depths, love and hate, attraction and repulsion, agony and ecstasy in this relationship. A powerful, compelling fascination and irresistible sexual attraction draws the two of you together like magnets. You love each other with a depth of feeling that is surprising even to yourselves. The powerful charismatic power that you have over each other can be used to manipulate one another, and dominance, control, or jealousy easily become hot issues between you. Whether this is a brief passionate encounter or a lifelong attachment, you will change one another profoundly.

<3<3<3<3 #tear

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Wow that's intense. Are you refering to synastry aspects or natal aspects that are similar?

Example of what I mean by natal aspects thsat are similar:

I have a 7 degree taurus venus in opposition to my 0 degree scorpio pluto

He has a 16 degree gemini venus trined his 18 degree libra pluto

Example of what I mean by synastry aspects thsat are similar:

his gemini venus does not aspect my scorpio pluto
my taurus venus does not aspect his libra pluto

posted January 13, 2012 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by IamLoved:
Oh wow you're really good at interpreting the meaning of this astrea asteroid!

I feel like apart of me is missing without him.

I also wish that I never met him so that I wouldn't have to feel this way!!!

But thanks! I am grateful to learn the reason why I'm going through all of this!!!

He probably doesn't even obsess over me the way I obsess over him. He probably moved on and here I am stuck thinking about him!

In time I will heal... I hope....

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You will heal! and you will let go.......I know letting go is tough but it can be done. Loving yourself a lot is the first step and then learning to love in a detached way is the second which I think is to love unconditionally while living your own life without needing him....tough lessons....believe me I know! but if I was able to do it, anyone can do it. I am not saying is easy but it can be done.

Curious......have you ever asked him how he feels?

posted January 13, 2012 04:01 AM            

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You will heal! and you will let go.......I know letting go is tough but it can be done. Loving yourself a lot is the first step and then learning to love in a detached way is the second which I think is to love unconditionally while living your own life without needing him....tough lessons....believe me I know! but if I was able to do it, anyone can do it. I am not saying is easy but it can be done.

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posted January 13, 2012 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
that's so cool because that's what I've always told my friends. You can still love people because feeling that you love someone transforms you and keeps you having something to be inspired by. Love is a beautiful thing! So you dont have to stop loving them! You can love them from a distance. You can think of them often without actually needing them there. You can have the memory of them inspire you rather than their physical presence. People who changed me in my past still affect who I am now and will in the future! I use the memory of them to motiate me when I'm down, to say "Melissa would've done it this way..." or to "Andres would've seen this as an opportunity to have fun." Th people who have walked away from your life can still inspire you. And you can still love them. And loving them means that you wish the best for them, even when that best involves the fact that they were miserable with you in their life. Forgiving people can protect you from being hurt---because once you become an easily forgiving person....you can no longer be easily hurt! Because you forgive instead of holding on, instead of hating them. You love them despite their faults, which include disloyalty among many, instead of holding resentment. So I think forgiving and loving unconditionally from a distance is a strong healer.

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