posted February 07, 2012 12:56 AM              

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Ami - About what you said concerning Mars in 12th having the same affect as the Moon. Well, when I use Whole Signs my moon IS in the 12th house. Talk about a double whammy. Kind of.

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gotchya. I'm going to start having to take notes if I ever find the time to.

posted February 07, 2012 12:57 AM              

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Originally posted by tbelle:
I have 12 house mars in Leo.

To be honest I am not really ignored- people pay too much attention to me, actually. And in someways its not good attention. Ive been bullied at school, at work...no matter who, what, where...i am the girl people love to hate. Not everyone hates me, im not crying poor me but i have had my share of jealousy and haters. Even family members have bullied me. My north node is also leo in 12 house.

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Interesting! Is Mars the only planet in your 12th house? Is it a singleton?

posted February 07, 2012 09:46 AM              

Moon- 4º Virgo: "Black and white children playing happily together".

-Underlying fellowship of all life underneath social creeds. Stimulating sense of distinctness. Rising above contrasts.

Mars- 16º Virgo: "Children crowd around the orang-utang cage in a zoo".

posted February 07, 2012 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Chaos:
Mars in Pisces, 12H too, it's true for me...Plus, Mars is my chart ruler, and it's 29th deg of Pisces, and my ASC is 29 deg too, of Aries...

I have no confidence, I have a lot of anger & I don't know where it's coming from, my problems get overlooked by others easily, it's expected of me to understand everybody's situation, but nobody really understands mine, even if I talk about it openly, and I do, but they either don't get it or think I'm imagining, it'll pass, it's just a phase, bad mood, etc. or even that I'm exaggerating things...

There are no positive sides to Mars in 12th, as far as I'm concerned...and now Uranus is transiting my Mars (that already squares Uranus natally) and it makes it even worse...

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Yes, I find my own issues being overlooked often. I'm constantly being the "counselor" for everyone in my life. Even complete strangers will just spill their guts to me for no reason.

While everyone NOTICES that they treat me like a psychologist, veryveryvery rarely will any of my friends/family ever offer support to me. Maybe that's how the OP meant he/she feels "ignored"? If so - I agree.

I am very guarded and secretive with my feelings/emotions so I think people close to me find it hard to ask questions. My reputation of being "tough" and "strong" (i.e. hiding my emotions) has hurt me in that regard.

This may tie into confidence. Truly, I am scared that if I'm too "deep" or "heavy" that people will interpret me as a misery chick. I find it much easier to act fine than to burden my friends w/my issues - I hate to be a downer, and worry whether my friends would stick around if I weren't as "together" as I appear.

Mars in 12th is tricky...I've also got Venus in Aqua in the 12th... so I'm trying to figure them both out.

posted February 07, 2012 11:42 AM              

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Originally posted by bluegreyeyes:
While everyone NOTICES that they treat me like a psychologist, veryveryvery rarely will any of my friends/family ever offer support to me. Maybe that's how the OP meant he/she feels "ignored"? If so - I agree.

I am very guarded and secretive with my feelings/emotions so I think people close to me find it hard to ask questions. My reputation of being "tough" and "strong" (i.e. hiding my emotions) has hurt me in that regard.

This may tie into confidence. Truly, I am scared that if I'm too "deep" or "heavy" that people will interpret me as a misery chick. I find it much easier to act fine than to burden my friends w/my issues - I hate to be a downer, and worry whether my friends would stick around if I weren't as "together" as I appear.

Mars in 12th is tricky...

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This is me 110%, and yes it is what I meant by being ignored. Even in conversation I could begin a story and I'll just get ignored unless I'm being very LOUD and obnoxious, but it's exhausting to act that way ALL the time.

posted February 07, 2012 02:25 PM              

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This is me 110%, and yes it is what I meant by being ignored. Even in conversation I could begin a story and I'll just get ignored unless I'm being very LOUD and obnoxious, but it's exhausting to act that way ALL the time.

I have friends that listen to me but I don't think they completely understand the depth of my feelings, so I don't get as much focus on my concerns

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hmmmm, friends, 11th house moon kerching!!

posted February 07, 2012 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by bluegreyeyes:
Yes, I find my own issues being overlooked often. I'm constantly being the "counselor" for everyone in my life. Even complete strangers will just spill their guts to me for no reason.

While everyone NOTICES that they treat me like a psychologist, veryveryvery rarely will any of my friends/family ever offer support to me. Maybe that's how the OP meant he/she feels "ignored"? If so - I agree.

I am very guarded and secretive with my feelings/emotions so I think people close to me find it hard to ask questions. My reputation of being "tough" and "strong" (i.e. hiding my emotions) has hurt me in that regard.

This may tie into confidence. Truly, I am scared that if I'm too "deep" or "heavy" that people will interpret me as a misery chick. I find it much easier to act fine than to burden my friends w/my issues - I hate to be a downer, and worry whether my friends would stick around if I weren't as "together" as I appear.

Mars in 12th is tricky...I've also got Venus in Aqua in the 12th... so I'm trying to figure them both out.

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Isn't the being 'tough' thing an aries rising trait?
I'm like that too. I appear alot more tough and sure of myself than I actually am.

posted February 07, 2012 06:09 PM              

this seems appropriate and on topic

posted February 08, 2012 03:04 AM              

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
hanna,
hmmmm, friends, 11th house moon kerching!!

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Ooooh.

posted February 08, 2012 03:13 AM              

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYJmCwRnF-w

this seems appropriate and on topic

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And it was!!!! That was an excellent video, I'll have to check if she even has one on Mars in Gemini.

Things she said that resonated was -

Parents were in conflict early on. They were, albeit it wasn't physical but... *drumroll* COMMUNICATION. What do I have? Mars in Gemini.

And I do feel in opposition to my mother a lot, and also to my ex-boyfriend whom is no longer in my life. He was very argumentative but after hearing her video I look at it like he must've been helping me balance out my nature, and helped my karma in some way.

posted February 08, 2012 04:24 AM              

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And it was!!!! That was an excellent video, I'll have to check if she even has one on Mars in Gemini.

Things she said that resonated was -

Parents were in conflict early on. They were, albeit it wasn't physical but... *drumroll* COMMUNICATION. What do I have? Mars in Gemini.

And I do feel in opposition to my mother a lot, and also to my ex-boyfriend whom is no longer in my life. He was very argumentative but after hearing her video I look at it like he must've been helping me balance out my nature, and helped my karma in some way.

I notice also that Scorpio influenced people (other than my quadruple Scorpio friend) tend to think I'm always trying to get a rise out of them when I challenge them. They think I'm doing it on purpose, when really I'm trying to show them a different way of thinking (and I know them vice versa) but perhaps Mars in Gemini in the 12th is what doesn't allow me to see/understand their perception of my goading them on?!

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Be careful now, "I do feel in opposition to my mother" this to me seems like you're explaing moon opp pluto.

It's hard to separate out facets of our personality, but this is exactly what astrology and aspects do

posted February 08, 2012 12:23 PM              

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Be careful now, "I do feel in opposition to my mother" this to me seems like you're explaing moon opp pluto.

It's hard to separate out facets of our personality, but this is exactly what astrology and aspects do

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posted February 10, 2012 06:33 AM              

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
You're right, it is a fine line. However, what's the difference by the opposition met by Mars in 12th and the Moon opp. Pluto?

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Natal chart aspects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrology http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Special:Prefixindex/category: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm http://www.theastrologicalaspects.com/ http://www.strangehouse.com/natal-aspects/index.php

planets in houses http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house

posted August 25, 2012 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I get that the 12th house is hidden in nature, but I ask because I'm tired of the consequences of having Mars in the 12th lol.

And how do you reverse the effects?
Is there ANY advantage to having Mars in the 12th?

I do think it's easier for me to keep my cool even when I'm boiling inside (with it there), but that's about it.

I have Mars in Gemini in the 12th (not using Whole Signs anymore. *sad face.*) I honestly think a big part of my low self-esteem is being ignored. I just got used to nobody considering me, without me taking the initiative. I've been trying to use whole signs so my Mars is in the 1st, but it doesn't work. I feel the effects of Mars in 12th too much.

I hope this doesn't get moved to Personal Readings... I just gave my own opinion on it to kick off others'.

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Often we perceive things a certain way and hence create our reality, without meaning to. We all do this, to certain degrees.

Mars in the 12th would have a hard time being assertive. hence, he could feel left out but another Mars may just jump in and hence not feel left out.

My guess it this could be part of what you are dealing with.

To me, 12th House planets are the hardest thing in any chart. One would not choose them imo, but one must learn about them and know that one has certain traits, as a result of the chart and one must work around them by strengthening gifts imo.

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posted August 25, 2012 08:42 PM              

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I heard with mars in 12th house, a person might seem docile and quiet but have a secret sexual self? I'm not sure that's a truth. What do you think?

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Truth.

posted August 25, 2012 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Truth.

What's it take to bring out someone's Mars in 12th?

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posted August 25, 2012 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Truth.

What's it take to bring out someone's Mars in 12th?

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posted August 25, 2012 09:28 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Truth.

What's it take to bring out someone's Mars in 12th?

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You got to get someone to conjunct it right. How would someone's Pluto conjunct your Mars. That may be an avalanche

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