posted March 28, 2012 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by yuting:

Looks and attractiveness are always somewhat subjective and culturally biased.

Eg whom Westerners find attractive in Chinese are often different from whom fellow Chinese would select as attractive.

Another example, some people like sunny charming looks while others find dark intense looks more attractive and I am betting these 2 types of looks usually have different ascendants.

We all have our own preferences and are free to state them. But do we have to criticize other people's preferences?

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posted March 28, 2012 11:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
SmilingHeart,
OK Well just to clear matters I'm a stickler on the data issue. esp tob. So have no fear lol. I just read Libra Rising in fun. But of course some people take it super serious; I personally don't trust the info coming from the site.

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Okay, I am sorry then! I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you in the first place and I don't think that the thing you posted on site 7 was ******** ! It was a misunderstanding! I thought you were talking about something else in your latest posts. My mistake

posted March 29, 2012 04:33 PM            

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Originally posted by matt:
Did athenegoddess used to be rasberri?

Cos if I remember rightly she had a libra asc and banged on about it being great for looks; I saw her photo and she looked a bit like a toad.

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posted August 14, 2012 03:54 PM            

Not to dig THIS out of the rubbish, but I feel there's a few things that MUST be said here regarding all this nonsense.

Yes, I agree that we choose our birth-chart, and that's not the worst (though, it's hardly compassionate, either) advice - but some of THE worst 'delineation' I've EVER seen from ANYONE is this bunkum about, 'oh, Venus is in its Fall in Virgo. THAT's why it cancels out the Sun-Aphrodite conjunction.'

Allow me to speak some French for you. A nice stream of it.

Hear it in your head? Good. Let's move on.

There ain't NOTHING wrong with Venus in Virgo rising. Nothing! Yeah, we may not put the extra effort into looking our best, which means we don't look as if we walked off a friggin' movie set. We ain't ugly. I'm starting to buy the whole Aphrodite aspecting Sun thing as an indicator of physical beauty / attractiveness / seduction / sex appeal in women - AND possibly even men.

I'm an Aphro-Sun, and he's got it trining his. We're a damned good-looking couple. Period.

I've also heard that Venus in the 12H can have the same 'dampening' effect. Again, Angelina and I would disagree with you. Be it in Cancer or Virgo, it's just fine.

Just setting the record straight.

Peace out.

posted August 14, 2012 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
We could all discuss this till the end of time. Because in the end it is all a matter of taste. I guess my taste for Capricorn and Cancer Risings must mean I'm visually deranged.

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BTW: my partner's ASC is in Cap. I've known plenty of both Cap and Cancer risings. Sorry, but they've got something about them, in my experience. Maybe it's the dry wit, or a soulfulness in their eyes or a strangely honest smile - I don't know WHAT it is, but, man it gets me.

Second-most Ascendant I find myself going for is Sag. Early. But that's because my Lust is there, so ... -cough- not rocket-science, that one.

My hubs is a Leo Ascendant, to return to the topic here. Sun-Saturn-Aphrodite conjunction (orb of 2º, so I'm counting it, even as there's no PLL). He's arguably, if not THE, absolutely in the top 5 of THE most 'OMG, gorgeous' men I've ever known intimately. Again, no PLL, but there's a 4º orb trine to Adonis, too.

I'm going to consider - all of it, curiously, even though it's Aphrodite, and he's a dude - valid, knowing what I know.

But, generally speaking - what's the take? Aphrodite in a man's chart, and conversely, Adonis in a woman's? I have a loose Adonis conjunction to my Sun, which also means it's conjunct my Aphrodite-Pluto.

Not sure how to interp all that.

posted August 14, 2012 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
No one is criticizing anyones preference. At least I am not. I judt find the idea of univeral beauty ridiculous. Just as you said: It is all subjective. What else is synastry for but to show how you subjectively react to a person?

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YES! Agree entirely. Which is what makes it so fascinating, in my opinion. Why does THIS person ring all those bells versus THAT person?

Look at casting. It's SO subjective. This is why sample size is VERY important, as well as adequate time spent in focus groups. You want your lead cast to have as many positive responses as possible. There will always a be a few, 'What were they thinking?' but in general, the consensus must be in wild agreement.

I had someone pull me aside the other day and say, 'I just noticed, you have the most attractive casts.' I blinked and said, 'First off, thank you, and second - well, yes.' Like this was obvious. I said, 'As much as I believe in inner beauty, Hollywood doesn't work that way. This is the real world, and to satisfy a market, you've gotta think like the market thinks.' They nodded in agreement and told me, again, I had great taste.

I've no idea if my Sun-Pluto-Aphrodite-Adonis (across Spica, in the 2H) contributes to this, or what. I'd have to do more research. It's an intriguing thought, though. I can't be TOO subjective. I have to know what the public wants - and deliver it.

-A.

posted August 15, 2012 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/fwa/sexplanets.html

how accurate is this article ?

What other aspects you think contributes to your appeal ?

*and if this topic was discussed before , put the link of the thread ... though I've searched a lot for it

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posted August 16, 2012 06:33 PM            

Besides genetics gives you your looks, whilst astrology describes the collective consciousness with regards to what is considered beautiful.
Now days society, pushed by the media, seems to be peddling this Kate Beckinsale, Kate Middleton, and Eva Longoria type look as the most desirable. Long dark tresses, nude lips, smouldering eyes. Is this not quite cancerian?

I remember in one of my astrology classes Frank said 'if the Ascendent is how we want people to see us, than does the MC not describes how people actually see us? When l see Venus close to the Ascendant I am seeing how the native wants the world to see them, not how the world sees the native, for that I look to the Midheaven.

I once wrote an article on the Ascendant were I painstakingly gathered pictures of people with the different Ascendants. If memory serves me right I was most impressed with Virgo rising.

I am also very confused about the nature of the topic. It is titled 'Sexual Appeal', I would not say Libra has much to offer in the way of sexual appeal.

In a nutshell this is how I view the Ascendent: If one imagines their lest preferred Ascendent, and then at the other end of the spectrum place your dream Ascendant; the overly too arousing, and overly too sickly gorgeous Ascendant (maybe Venus in Leo Conjunct Uranus).