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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9547 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 09, 2012 04:19 AM What do you think? IP: Logged
laurenbabiiee7 unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 04:26 AM libra or gemini lets just throw virgo in there too geminin n virgo cause they rule communication they just seem to be ahead of everyone else on that level...gemini is known for the devlish ways of manipulation and soooooo is libra they are like tie with geminis..libra justifys allll their actions why their right and your wrong aka ANNOYING IP: Logged
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9547 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 09, 2012 04:35 AM quote: Originally posted by laurenbabiiee7: libra or gemini lets just throw virgo in there too geminin n virgo cause they rule communication they just seem to be ahead of everyone else on that level...gemini is known for the devlish ways of manipulation and soooooo is libra they are like tie with geminis..libra justifys allll their actions why their right and your wrong aka ANNOYING Haha this exactly what I was afraid of IP: Logged
Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 429 From: Registered: Feb 2012	posted April 09, 2012 04:49 AM ^ I agree with those, but I would also have to say water placements or placements in 8th or 3rd house, Pluto aspects. Intuition would play a huge part because that enables strong understanding into human psyche. That being said, water placements can be somewhat obvious because you in turn feel or recognize their intensity and/or emotional involvement. Aquarian placements (Sun, Mercury, Mars), on the other hand can manipulate and you would never even know it. They have intuition along with the bigger picture and perseverance. Over all I imagine for a master manipulator, a strong mercury would be a must (preferably with Uranus, Jupiter, Pluto trines, and strong angle aspects to it). IP: Logged
laurenbabiiee7 unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 04:53 AM ^_^ IP: Logged
Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 429 From: Registered: Feb 2012	posted April 09, 2012 04:55 AM Haha this exactly what I was afraid of[/B][/QUOTE] Why? IP: Logged
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9547 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 09, 2012 05:05 AM quote: Originally posted by Lava Flower: Haha this exactly what I was afraid of Why?[/B][/QUOTE] Haha no reason -_- IP: Logged
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9395 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 09, 2012 05:12 AM quote: Originally posted by Lava Flower: Aquarian placements (Sun, Mercury, Mars), on the other hand can manipulate and you would never even know it. Aquarian mind games ~ Aqua Merc aspect Uranus/Jup + its angular. So guilty on this one. IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted April 09, 2012 06:33 AM - IP: Logged
pandacake Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: May 2011	posted April 09, 2012 06:54 AM Manipulation for what to be exact? In my experience unevolved Capricorn and Pisces are fearless manipulators. Capricorns I know were the ones that would figuratively & literally walk over corpses to get more money or whatever it is that they feel entitled to. This would include not letting their nieces & nephews know that their father was dying so they have a reason to cut them off. Pisces are more shrewd than they appear and can always turn themselves into a victim and make the real victim become the perpetrator. Again this is just my experience, I'm very well aware that these are unevolved versions of those signs and I'd never generalize that all Caps or Pisces are master manipulators! IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011	posted April 09, 2012 03:01 PM Niccolò Machiavelli Born: May 3, 1469, 11:07 PM in: Florence (Italy) Sun: 21°55' Taurus AS: 12°22' Capricorn Moon: 14°49' Aquarius MC: 9°47' Scorpio Dominants: Taurus, Scorpio, Capricorn Neptune, Saturn, Pluto Houses 3, 10, 4 / Earth, Water / Fixed Numerology: Birthpath 1 http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Niccolò_Machiavelli http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Machiavelli,_Niccolo IP: Logged
Capriquarius unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 03:08 PM 7th house emphasis. Just look at how many Hitler had. And he had Mercury conjunct the descendant and ruling the 11th - manipulating a large group through his words - as well as 9th (politics). IP: Logged
Robin Goodfellow Knowflake Posts: 207 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted April 09, 2012 03:58 PM Try this for any info www.astrofix.com scroll down to your right 'planet combinations'. IP: Logged
Doux R�ve Moderator Posts: 8406 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 09, 2012 04:27 PM ^ That link redirects me to a site called gamecrush that has nothing to do with astrology On topic, I would say that an afflicted Mercury could indicate manipulative tendencies. Not sure about the signs but I think mutable signs are more prone to deceit. It is reflected in Machiavelli's chart, by the way. There are probably many other factors though. IP: Logged
Capriquarius unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 04:38 PM quote: Originally posted by Doux R�ve: On topic, I would say that an afflicted Mercury could indicate manipulative tendencies. Not sure about the signs but I think mutable signs are more prone to deceit. Geniuses tend to have hard aspects to Mercury though...from what I've read, it doesn't sound like Hawking (Mercury-Mars square), Einstein (Mercury-Saturn conjunction, Mercury-Uranus quincunx), or Tesla (out-of-sign conjunction between Mercury and Saturn) were manipulative. IP: Logged
Doux R�ve Moderator Posts: 8406 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 09, 2012 04:50 PM quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: Geniuses tend to have hard aspects to Mercury though...from what I've read, it doesn't sound like Hawking (Mercury-Mars square), Einstein (Mercury-Saturn conjunction, Mercury-Uranus quincunx), or Tesla (out-of-sign conjunction between Mercury and Saturn) were manipulative. As always, two sides of the same coin. Some people will manifest the energies in a positive way, others, in a negative way. IP: Logged
Capriquarius unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 04:51 PM ^ /end thread then. Since the OP asked what sign or aspects would MAKE someone a master manipulator. IP: Logged
Doux R�ve Moderator Posts: 8406 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 09, 2012 04:54 PM Haha well yes, technically no aspect can make someone anything, but we're discussing tendencies here. Maybe others will chime in and share their experiences. IP: Logged
tautomer4314 Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Oregon Registered: Dec 2011	posted April 09, 2012 06:00 PM Mutable and water signs tend to have an ability to do it. In some respects I do consider myself a master manipulator. I can be really good at it when I want to be. I only allow it though when there is justified cause, which is not common. My reason for this is I have a lot of scorpio, gemini, and 8th house influence. ------------------ It's All Elemental ----- My Chart if relevant IP: Logged
Robin Goodfellow Knowflake Posts: 207 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted April 09, 2012 06:02 PM quote: Originally posted by Doux R�ve: ^ That link redirects me to a site called gamecrush that has nothing to do with astrology On topic, I would say that an afflicted Mercury could indicate manipulative tendencies. Not sure about the signs but I think mutable signs are more prone to deceit. It is reflected in Machiavelli's chart, by the way. There are probably many other factors though. www.astrofix.net IP: Logged
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4379 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 09, 2012 06:11 PM afflicted moon? I dunno lol some are very good at it that's all I know hahaha but not the evil kind of manipulation, now that's scary http://youtu.be/3yl-5FOZcr0 IP: Logged
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 2468 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 09, 2012 06:19 PM virgo,Gemini,scorpio,libra IP: Logged
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 2468 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 09, 2012 06:26 PM IP: Logged
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 2400 From: Registered: Nov 2009	posted April 09, 2012 06:39 PM I think the dark side of any signs have the potential of this. Though water signs, gem do it alot. Most healthy Virgos don't. We hate mind games. Find it a waste of energy. IP: Logged
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 2468 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 09, 2012 06:56 PM quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: I think the dark side of any signs have the potential of this. Though water signs, gem do it alot. Most healthy Virgos don't. We hate mind games. Find it a waste of energy. Agreed. When it comes down to it, they all are capable. IP: Logged

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