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Aquacheeka
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posted May 03, 2012 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks for the links aquacheeka!

And to get abit back on topic this would be quincunx mine. But I guess an easier quincunx than sag since we have the same planetary ruler.

"Taurus men may be attracted to Libra women for the same reasons that Taurus women appeal to them. Both signs have a strong aesthetic appreciation. They like domestic tranquility and sensuality, and prefer to surround themselves with beautiful things. Also, the [b]Libra will appreciate the decisiveness of the Taurus, while the Libra’s compromising nature prevents clashes with the infamous Taurean stubbornness. Neither sign is inclined to fight over trivial things, though Libra flirtatiousness may trigger Taurean jealousy."

^that must be it tho..[/B]


I personally know a Taurus man/Libra woman couple who've been long-married... my friend's parents.

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Interesting how Sagittarius women and Virgos show so much flexibility in who they end up with

Hope Virgo guys are the same way even if they have Mars in Scorpio! <333

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posted May 03, 2012 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Faith, I am quite interested in this book as two of my best friends are Aquarius/Pisces cusps and I seem to have a kinship with this sign.

Aquacheeka, thanks for your interest. I looked it up...you're born Feb 10th yes?

It's hard for me to paraphrase the book but I have to or violate copyright law. Just trust that the book is better okay?

With the cusp people, Aquarius IIIs are expected to have a kind of explosive, contagious energy that almost has a life of its own. It affects other people who are involved for the better. Thus the relationship works best in a group context where everyone can benefit from this energy you and Aqua-Pisces are generating together.

The author says that the relationship is best suited for family. If you were to marry an Aqua-Pisces, the focus may turn to making sure the lives of your descendants would be prosperous. Solid dynasties have been created by Aqua III (you) and Aqua-Pisces people working together.

There's some more but that's all I remember...let me know if it sounds accurate. Sometimes the readings are off if someone is born in the middle of the night between two "personology periods" (mini-signs.) Then the reading for the next sign is the accurate one.


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I named my self because it was clear you were referring to me. I'm not embarrassed that I disagree with you, I already told you why those studies were bs.

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I named my self because it was clear you were referring to me. I'm not embarrassed that I disagree with you, I already told you why those studies were bs. They even have varying results from each other. Maybe it's because people don't start relationships only because of compatible Suns.

I mean, think about it. Look at all your past boyfriend's charts and you'll notice similarities. For me it's Virgo Moons/Rising or Leo Moons/Rising. I also tend to go for guys with Moon opposite Jupiter (which I have natally).

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posted May 03, 2012 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I named my self because it was clear you were referring to me. I'm not embarrassed that I disagree with you, I already told you why those studies were bs. They even have varying results from each other.


Alrighty, then. To each their own Obviously we are not reading the same articles, and that's fine. Some people are extremely hardcore with the astrology to the point where they dismiss science, even when it validates astrology! I'm not one of those people, what can I say.

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posted May 03, 2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I mean, think about it. Look at all your past boyfriend's charts and you'll notice similarities. For me it's Virgo Moons/Rising or Leo Moons/Rising. I also tend to go for guys with Moon opposite Jupiter (which I have natally).


The only clear and consistent astro trend I can find among my exes is Pisces suns, to be perfectly honest.

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posted May 03, 2012 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe it's because people don't start relationships only because of compatible Suns.


I agree, there are other initial attractors (for instance, I am attracted to men who are big into music/musicians, which might explain why I've attracted so many Pisceans in my life), and lots of them, but that is what makes it so compelling that regardless of who gets attracted to who for what reason, there is a pattern with who they "go the long haul" with, and who they pledge a commitment to, and the stats clearly show that. Yes, there are cultural differences (the article under Taurus even makes mention of this itself) and some signs fare better with their trined signs and certain quincunxes than others, but you've gotta keep in mind that marriage is about more than attraction, it's about COMPATIBILITY, which is why the pattern is statistically observable.

I can tell you didn't take the time to go through the articles, one by one. Do that, and if you still don't see a trend or pattern, then fine, but I think you're being more than a little disingenuous to say that you've read them all and there is no hint of a pattern. You're being dismissive of that which you didn't even take the time to properly read. Why, I can't figure out.

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posted May 03, 2012 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Aquacheeka, thanks for your interest. I looked it up...you're born Feb 10th yes?

It's hard for me to paraphrase the book but I have to or violate copyright law. Just trust that the book is better okay?

With the cusp people, Aquarius IIIs are expected to have a kind of explosive, contagious energy that almost has a life of its own. It affects other people who are involved for the better. Thus the relationship works best in a group context where everyone can benefit from this energy you and Aqua-Pisces are generating together.

The author says that the relationship is best suited for family. If you were to marry an Aqua-Pisces, the focus may turn to making sure the lives of your descendants would be prosperous. Solid dynasties have been created by Aqua III (you) and Aqua-Pisces people working together.

There's some more but that's all I remember...let me know if it sounds accurate. Sometimes the readings are off if someone is born in the middle of the night between two "personology periods" (mini-signs.) Then the reading for the next sign is the accurate one.


Hmmm I guess I can check it out for myself. Yes, my Aqua/Pisces cusp friends and I definitely attract interest when we're together that much I know but the rest doesn't really apply to us because it's not a romantic context.

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posted May 03, 2012 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the diff between the main book and this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Gary-Goldschneiders-Everyday-Astrology-Goldschneider/dp/B005GNKJXE/ref=tmm_pap_title_0

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posted May 03, 2012 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi sand,

Goldschneider wrote several books based on his 48 sign system, and then he wrote Everyday Astrology, which is JUST about the basic sun signs.

Frankly I think he wrote that last one just because he's a Rabbit, he wants wealth and fame, and he sees a market in basic sun sign astrology.

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posted May 03, 2012 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi sand,

Goldschneider wrote several books based on his 48 sign system, and then he wrote Everyday Astrology, which is JUST about the basic sun signs.

Frankly I think he wrote that last one just because he's a Rabbit, he wants wealth and fame, and he sees a market in basic sun sign astrology.



Well, I think there might be something to Goldschneider's theory. I noticed that January 20th and 21st Aquas are completely opposite temperamentally from February 17th/18th Aquas. The 20th/21st ones I know LOVE to drink and smoke and party. The ones I know on the 17th and 18th are sort of refined and almost Libra-like. I was always stereotyping decan 1 Aquas based on the 20th/21st Aquas I knew; I realize I know two Aquas born towards the end of decan 1 that are nothing like the Cap-cuspers... must be somethin' to it.

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Alrighty, then. To each their own Obviously we are not reading the same articles, and that's fine. Some people are extremely hardcore with the astrology to the point where they dismiss science, even when it validates astrology! I'm not one of those people, what can I say.

If there was one thing I could take away from college is that statistics are mostly ******** . You can find any study to back up whatever position you take on any subject. It's easy.

I don't live and die by astrology, and I also wouldn't live and die by that research.

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posted May 03, 2012 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Well, I think there might be something to Goldschneider's theory. I noticed that January 20th and 21st Aquas are completely opposite temperamentally from February 17th/18th Aquas. The 20th/21st ones I know LOVE to drink and smoke and party. The ones I know on the 17th and 18th are sort of refined and almost Libra-like. I was always stereotyping decan 1 Aquas based on the 20th/21st Aquas I knew; I realize I know two Aquas born towards the end of decan 1 that are nothing like the Cap-cuspers... must be somethin' to it.

EXACTLY. That's what I see, too. And I have never met a Cap-Aqua Cusp person who didn't love to drink and/or party...even my two fundamentalist Christian friends, who could give up swearing and everything else...but not alcohol.

Thomas Kincade was born on that Cusp. Died of alcoholism.

In this system Cap-Aqua is from Jan 17-22, and it's called The Cusp of Mystery, Violence, and Imagination. (Nice people with potentially scary tempers.) Aqua I is the Week of Genius. Aqua II is the Week of Youth and Ease. Aqua III is the Week of Acceptance. Aqua-Pisces starts Feb 16 (ends around Feb 22) and is the Cusp of Sensitivity.

These books are in all the major chain bookstores in the US, so maybe you can find them in Canada, too, just to take a peek.

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Rosalind i think your readings are absolutly phenomenal,i have been pouring through your answers and learning sooooo much, but i wanted to ask u about something u said about 8th house NN, which completly moved me, because you have so completly encapsulated the feeling in my opinion. And so i wanted to inquire the following my brother has natally NN in 8th house Cancer and he constantly contemplates suicide, its like its too much for him at times, we all fear he will hurt himself! What did u mean when u said these souls are unevolved. What should one with do with this 8th house NN?

If u find time please look and comment on 8th house NN, i will be eagerly awaiting your answer!

Blessings 2 u

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Well, I think there might be something to Goldschneider's theory. I noticed that January 20th and 21st Aquas are completely opposite temperamentally from February 17th/18th Aquas. The 20th/21st ones I know LOVE to drink and smoke and party. The ones I know on the 17th and 18th are sort of refined and almost Libra-like. I was always stereotyping decan 1 Aquas based on the 20th/21st Aquas I knew; I realize I know two Aquas born towards the end of decan 1 that are nothing like the Cap-cuspers... must be somethin' to it.
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EXACTLY. That's what I see, too. And I have never met a Cap-Aqua Cusp person who didn't love to drink and/or party...even my two fundamentalist Christian friends, who could give up swearing and everything else...but not alcohol.

Thomas Kincade was born on that Cusp. Died of alcoholism.

In this system Cap-Aqua is from Jan 17-22, and it's called The Cusp of Mystery, Violence, and Imagination. (Nice people with potentially scary tempers.) Aqua I is the Week of Genius. Aqua II is the Week of Youth and Ease. Aqua III is the Week of Acceptance. Aqua-Pisces starts Feb 16 (ends around Feb 22) and is the Cusp of Sensitivity.

This is interesting to me. And I suppose I tend to agree. I am a January 21 Aqua. I certainly don't drink all the time, but when I do, I tend to overindulge, but again, I have a very high tolerance. I used to be quite a partier before I had a child and a career. My bf is a February 19 Aqua. In his youth, he tried it all. (moreso than I did) but now he is definately a lot more "refined" than I am, and BARELY drinks and is quite a homebody. I attributed the difference in personality to all his Virgo placements as opposed to all my Aqua. Interesting new take!

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Phoenix:

Your brother has a very delicate karma. NN in 8th house (house of SCORPIO) AND in the sign of Cancer is a very delicate placement. When NN falls in 4th, 8th or 12th house one should be careful. These are very heavy karmas and are not very easy to deal with. When NN falls in one of these houses, something must be learned. In your brother's case he must learn the meaning of death in order to appreciate his life. He needs to understand the undergrounds of this house. Being a water house and the natural house of Scorpio and Pluto, your brother, in his past life, lived in a pretty materialistic and superficial way. He didnt care at all about death and the other matters of this house. Now he is trying not to understand the meaning of death but to embrace it. He sees death as an escape not as a lesson. He must understand that death is not a solution. He will reincarnate over and over again if he refuses to learn his lesson. Death is not something that can be underestimated. Thats why suicidal people spend 7 years in the nowhere before goes in their next reincarnation. Because Death does not take lives when people want but when SHE wants. People will not go to heaven or hell before their karmic lessons are fully completed. He needs to develop a deeper understanding. He needs to see what death really means but WITHOUT the need to experience it before time. Because ruler of 8th house goes to his 6th and 6th house switches rulers with 8th house, he needs to work with DEAD people. And no, I'm not kidding at all. He needs to see what death causes, the permanent state of being. Only then he will see how important is life.

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posted May 08, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Phoenix:

Your brother has a very delicate karma. NN in 8th house (house of SCORPIO) AND in the sign of Cancer is a very delicate placement. When NN falls in 4th, 8th or 12th house one should be careful. These are very heavy karmas and are not very easy to deal with. When NN falls in one of these houses, something must be learned. In your brother's case he must learn the meaning of death in order to appreciate his life. He needs to understand the undergrounds of this house. Being a water house and the natural house of Scorpio and Pluto, your brother, in his past life, lived in a pretty materialistic and superficial way. He didnt care at all about death and the other matters of this house. Now he is trying not to understand the meaning of death but to embrace it. He sees death as an escape not as a lesson. He must understand that death is not a solution. He will reincarnate over and over again if he refuses to learn his lesson. Death is not something that can be underestimated. Thats why suicidal people spend 7 years in the nowhere before goes in their next reincarnation. Because Death does not take lives when people want but when SHE wants. People will not go to heaven or hell before their karmic lessons are fully completed. He needs to develop a deeper understanding. He needs to see what death really means but WITHOUT the need to experience it before time. Because ruler of 8th house goes to his 6th and 6th house switches rulers with 8th house, he needs to work with DEAD people. And no, I'm not kidding at all. He needs to see what death causes, the permanent state of being. Only then he will see how important is life.



Rosalind, could you help me? This interpretation is worrisome to me I have my NN in the 4th house, in Taurus. What is the lesson of this?

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posted May 08, 2012 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Rosalind, could you help me? This interpretation is worrisome to me I have my NN in the 4th house, in Taurus. What is the lesson of this?



Post the natal chart. Otherwise I cannot help you.

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posted May 08, 2012 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixxx12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Phoenix:

Your brother has a very delicate karma. NN in 8th house (house of SCORPIO) AND in the sign of Cancer is a very delicate placement. When NN falls in 4th, 8th or 12th house one should be careful. These are very heavy karmas and are not very easy to deal with. When NN falls in one of these houses, something must be learned. In your brother's case he must learn the meaning of death in order to appreciate his life. He needs to understand the undergrounds of this house. Being a water house and the natural house of Scorpio and Pluto, your brother, in his past life, lived in a pretty materialistic and superficial way. He didnt care at all about death and the other matters of this house. Now he is trying not to understand the meaning of death but to embrace it. He sees death as an escape not as a lesson. He must understand that death is not a solution. He will reincarnate over and over again if he refuses to learn his lesson. Death is not something that can be underestimated. Thats why suicidal people spend 7 years in the nowhere before goes in their next reincarnation. Because Death does not take lives when people want but when SHE wants. People will not go to heaven or hell before their karmic lessons are fully completed. He needs to develop a deeper understanding. He needs to see what death really means but WITHOUT the need to experience it before time. Because ruler of 8th house goes to his 6th and 6th house switches rulers with 8th house, he needs to work with DEAD people. And no, I'm not kidding at all. He needs to see what death causes, the permanent state of being. Only then he will see how important is life.


(((((Rosalind))))) u have no idea how much this means to me, i will try to relay this to him...he was on the path of choosing a healthcare proffesion, but in his teens he veered off and abandoned that path and i am sorry to say chose to associate himself with people from the mob, people of ill repute, drug addicts, he has a soft spot for these people ironically, so in that way he is close to death and even risks his life, and stays stuck in that "get more money materialistic mob world" he handles big money for them, but its other peoples money, but now i feel he has remorse, i see he is dissatisfied and deeply dissappointed with the world and people, i just hope he finds his way, but not end his life, just the other day after long time of hearing him say " i will just kill myself, i will end it all", he said to my mother... i guess i just have to take it one day at a time, because he has this pain in him i guess its hard for him at times to just be with the pain, be with suffering and yes death, i am sorry i am rambling anyway...again thank u so much for this reading it is deeply appreciated and thank u for sharing your knowledge so unselfishly!

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(((((Rosalind))))) u have no idea how much this means to me, i will try to relay this to him...he was on the path of choosing a healthcare proffesion, but in his teens he veered off and abandoned that path and i am sorry to say chose to associate himself with people from the mob, people of ill repute, drug addicts, he has a soft spot for these people ironically, so in that way he is close to death and even risks his life, and stays stuck in that "get more money materialistic mob world", but now i feel he has remorse, i see he is dissatisfied and deeply dissappointed with the world and people, i just hope he finds his way, but not end his life, just the other day after long time of hearing him say " i will just kill myself, i will end it all", he said to my mother... i guess i just have to take it one day at a time, because he has this pain in him i guess its hard for him at times to just be with the pain, be with suffering and yes death, i am sorry i am rambling anyway...again thank u so much for this reading it is deeply appreciated and thank u for sharing your knowledge so unselfishly!


Phoenix I would like to take a look also on his progressed chart. Can you post it please?

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Phoenix I would like to take a look also on his progressed chart. Can you post it please?

Here u go Rosa

and this is natal + progressed

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
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Rosalind, could you help me? This interpretation is worrisome to me I have my NN in the 4th house, in Taurus. What is the lesson of this?



Post the natal chart. Otherwise I cannot help you.[/B][/QUOTE]


Here it is: http://s1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb348/aquaj/?action=view¤t=astro_2gw_02_jen117499492.gif


Is it the right type of chart?

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Here it is: http://s1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb348/aquaj/?action=view¤t=astro_2gw_02_jen117 499492.gif


Is it the right type of chart?


sorry but i believe your NN is in 9th house?

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Hmm... first thing I noticed. He gonna be 30 soon. In september. He's gonna experience his first Saturn Return. His natal Saturn is in 11th house. His Saturn Return promise some major changes regarding this house. If he has friends (hope good ones) they will have a great influence over him. If they are bad friends, he must be careful but also to large his eyes. He might have something to learn after that. Saturn is also karmic, and in 11th house, shows he has a karma about his friends and surroundings. If he has bad friends, he must learn to be more selective.
The second thing I've noticed is that his progressed NN is in 7th house. In a certain period of time he got also another lesson to learn. Relationships. Ruler is in the same house. If he has problems in this area, then he blocks both karmic lessons, the progressed one and the natal one. If the progressed karmic lesson brings him problems his natal karmic lesson froze and goes wrong. In order to disolve his blockage he must learn first his current lesson: the progressed one. He must learn to be in good relationships with people. If he doesnt learn this lesson he cannot learn his natal one and he will take everything in the wrong way.
Ironically, his progressed 10th house ruler (of where Saturn and Pluto are) goes in 8th house. Again... he must have a career regarding 8th house matters. Again, he must work with dead people. Nothing is coincidence. He feels now LOST and he thinks death is his last solution. His solution is not taking his life but trying to see the consequences of death. He definitely need to work in this area. He's 30. Its not too late.

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