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ghanima81
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posted May 02, 2012 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Aquacheeka to a great extent. I personally have had nothing but crazy negative, soul sucking experiences with Cancer men.

Debunked!

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Faith
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posted May 02, 2012 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need for sarcasm, Rosalind.

Full disclosure:

I actually subscribe to Gary Goldschneider's personology system, in which there are 48 sun signs, and he's made a book showing how each sign relates to all 48. It is called The Secret Language of Relationships. It's highly reliable. I don't care what ANYONE says!

I've seen enough evidence to know its worth.

Bash it all you want, 'makes no difference to me.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rosalind:
Yes, the Sun signs alone are the best indicator for long last relationships and its success. *sarcasm*. Seriously now, if you people want to know astrology and to help others, leave alone the basic astrology. Thats utterly rubbish. There are 12 signs and 6 billion people on this planet.


And isn't it amazing how in spite of this, everytime a study is done people overwhelmingly marry their own sign the most?:
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/aries%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/taurus%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/gemini%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/cancer%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/leo%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/virgo%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/libra%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/scorpio%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/sagittarius%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/capricorn%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/aquarius%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/pisces%20marriage.html

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posted May 02, 2012 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
No need for sarcasm, Rosalind.

Full disclosure:

I actually subscribe to Gary Goldschneider's personology system, in which there are 48 sun signs, and he's made a book showing how each sign relates to all 48. It is called The Secret Language of Relationships. It's highly reliable. I don't care what ANYONE says!

I've seen enough evidence to know its worth.

Bash it all you want, 'makes no difference to me.



48 signs! We can reinvent astrology is we want. Ancients wont be bothered at all! The might even thank us.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idgaf what anyone says; SUN SIGNS MATTER.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

And isn't it amazing how in spite of this, everytime a study is done people overwhelmingly marry their own sign the most?:
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/aries%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/taurus%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/gemini%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/cancer%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/leo%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/virgo%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/libra%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/scorpio%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/sagittarius%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/capricorn%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/aquarius%20marriage.html
http://www.metaphoricalplatypus.com/Astrology/pisces%20marriage.html


I am a CANCER and I would NEVER marry a Taurus. Boring people! No offence. I rather go for a Pisces if we talk in basic astrology.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
And isn't it amazing how in spite of this, everytime a study is done people overwhelmingly marry their own sign the most?


There was one exception: Scorpios do just as well with Pisces as they do with their own kind.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Idgaf what anyone says; SUN SIGNS MATTER.

I NEVER SAID it doesnt matter! I said its not the only thing that can speak for relationships.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I NEVER SAID it doesnt matter! I said its not the only thing that can speak for relationships.


Well it's not just you saying that. There are others here who trivialize the importance of the sun sign and talk to you like you're an astrology newb if you give it its rightful due. There is someone here convinced that she's not relating to her boyfriend on a sun sign level; meanwhile, her boyfriend is the sun sign she is statistically most likely to marry.

Give me a break. lol.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Well it's not just you saying that. There are others here who trivialize the importance of the sun sign and talk to you like you're an astrology newb if you give it its rightful due. There is someone here convinced that she's not relating to her boyfriend on a sun sign level; meanwhile,her boyfriend is the sun sign she is statistically most likely to marry.

Give me a break. lol.


Give me a break lol. Dear God! That girl knows BETTER than you all as I can see. She thinks as an astrologer. I have checked thousand of charts and I came to the conclusion that Sun is not ABSOLUTELY important in synastry.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Give me a break lol. Dear God! That girl knows BETTER than you all as I can see. She thinks as an astrologer. I have checked thousand of charts and I came to the conclusion that Sun is not ABSOLUTELY important in synastry.


OK well it's obviously not the be-all, end-all of relating as there were still tons of marriages between incompatible signs. Still, I think if people paid more attention to it, the divorce rate might be lower .

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posted May 02, 2012 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the links, Aquacheeka. I never knew that! Interesting! Statistical analysis which actually has mathematical and tangible evidence is nothing to be discredited, even by astrology. IMO.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:

48 signs! We can reinvent astrology is we want. Ancients wont be bothered at all! The might even thank us.

True, if they are around they might see improvement. The author of the 48 signs book spent 40 years compiling a database of 25,000 people and their birthdays in order to refine his system. The ancients had no such database.

Each sign has five "personology periods" within it: cusp with the previous sign; three periods that roughly represent the decans; cusp with the following sign.

Unless you've studied it, I don't see what practical basis there is for dismissing it out of hand.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
True, if they are around they might see improvement. The author of the 48 signs book spent 40 years compiling a database of 25,000 people and their birthdays in order to refine his system. The ancients had no such database.

Each sign has five "personology periods" within it: cusp with the previous sign; three periods that roughly represent the decans; cusp with the following sign.

Unless you've studied it, I don't see what practical basis there is for dismissing it out of hand.



Faith, I am quite interested in this book as two of my best friends are Aquarius/Pisces cusps and I seem to have a kinship with this sign.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
True, if they are around they might see improvement. The author of the 48 signs book spent 40 years compiling a database of 25,000 people and their birthdays in order to refine his system. The ancients had no such database.

Each sign has five "personology periods" within it: cusp with the previous sign; three periods that roughly represent the decans; cusp with the following sign.

Unless you've studied it, I don't see what practical basis there is for dismissing it out of hand.


I have studied but I give more credit to the ancients. Besides study they had something that 99% of nowdays astrologers lack: INSIGHT.

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posted May 02, 2012 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, Scorpio men and Aries women really love their own element, if the stats from Switzerland are any indication.

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posted May 02, 2012 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one example of a Sag/Cancer couple (in love) and that's my aunt (Sag) with her boy-friend (Can.). They never married but are living together for about 10 years now. They're from different cultures and he's some years younger.
Their start wasn't easy as her sister (my other aunt) tried to 'break' them for some dark reasons. What happened finally is that it completely broke the relationship between both sisters. Even when my mom (their sister) died recently they totally ingnored each other. At that time I came closer to this 'couple' and I can truly say now; I love *THEM*!!! (something I rarely say )

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posted May 02, 2012 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Well it's not just you saying that. There are others here who trivialize the importance of the sun sign and talk to you like you're an astrology newb if you give it its rightful due. There is someone here convinced that she's not relating to her boyfriend on a sun sign level; meanwhile, her boyfriend is the sun sign she is statistically most likely to marry.

Give me a break. lol.


My CURRENT boyfriend (current because he's probably not going to be the last, lets be real) is an Aqua, yes. But there are things in our charts that go WAY beyond that, as in my Moon is trine his Sun (classic relationship aspect), my ascendant is conjunct his vertex and vice versa (this is a big deal since if he wasn't born in Germany [we're American], his vertex wouldn't be near my ASC... he was born at the right time in the right place), his MC is conjunct my IC by 1 degree, my dwad Sun is 21 Virgo, his Moon is 21 Virgo. His Moon also conjuncts my SN. Our composite is also very powerful, with a stellium of Sun, Venus, Mars and Mercury and Vertex exactly conjunct the DSC. These are all much more compelling reasons as to why we're together, rather than the fact that we are both Aquas. I've met many other Aqua men that I haven't felt anything for whatsoever.

In fact, my longest relationship was with a LEO, which is the least likely sign an Aqua woman will marry, according to that study. I also attract a ton of Leos in general.

My mother, who is a Pisces, has been married to my dad (a Taurus) for 20+ years, even though Taurus is the 2nd least likely sign a Pisces will marry.

Also, the original study didn't have THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE between least likely and most likely signs, if you looked at the actual numbers. So a 1000 Aqua women married Aqua men, but 900 Aqua women married Leo men... that's not a big difference statistically and not very compelling.

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posted May 02, 2012 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
My CURRENT boyfriend (current because he's probably not going to be the last, lets be real) is an Aqua, yes. But there are things in our charts that go WAY beyond that, as in my Moon is trine his Sun (classic relationship aspect), my ascendant is conjunct his vertex and vice versa (this is a big deal since if he wasn't born in Germany [we're American], his vertex wouldn't be near my ASC... he was born at the right time in the right place), his MC is conjunct my IC by 1 degree, my dwad Sun is 21 Virgo, his Moon is 21 Virgo. His Moon also conjuncts my SN. Our composite is also very powerful, with a stellium of Sun, Venus, Mars and Mercury and Vertex exactly conjunct the DSC. These are all much more compelling reasons as to why we're together, rather than the fact that we are both Aquas. I've met many other Aqua men that I haven't felt anything for whatsoever.

In fact, my longest relationship was with a LEO, which is the least likely sign an Aqua woman will marry, according to that study. I also attract a ton of Leos in general.

My mother, who is a Pisces, has been married to my dad (a Taurus) for 20+ years, even though Taurus is the 2nd least likely sign a Pisces will marry.

Also, the original study didn't have THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE between least likely and most likely signs, if you looked at the actual numbers. So a 1000 Aqua women married Aqua men, but 900 Aqua women married Leo men... that's not a big difference statistically and not very compelling.



Firstly I don't know why you named yourself. I wasn't going to do that, lol.


Also, per the article:

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It's important to keep in mind that these are statistical tendencies; this doesn't mean that every romance between incompatible signs is doomed. For example, out of 6,498,320 marriages encompassing all possible sign combinations in the Castille study, there were 1,059 more marriages between Aquarius men and Aquarius women than would be expected if sun signs had no effect, whereas between Aquarius men and Virgo women, there were 529 fewer marriages than would be expected if pairings were random. However, there still were many marriages between the supposedly least compatible signs.


Perhaps a sample of 7 million+ marriages (in total combining the two studies) is not compelling to you... that's fine.

quote:
...But Sachs didn't do the stats himself - they were carried out by a group of highly professional statistitions from the Ludwig-Maximilian Univeristy of Munich and The Allensbach Institute for Demographic Research.

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posted May 02, 2012 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am also interested in seeing the stats from Percy Seymour in England.

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posted May 02, 2012 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, the Castille study shows that Taurus men are the second most likely for Pisces women to marry after Pisces men. Conjunctions and sextiles are major indicators for marital success; squares and oppositions are major indicators of divorce or not getting married in the first place (which is essentially the takeaway lesson from the stats, I was hoping I wouldn't have to spell that out for people ). You might want to re-examine the studies, amowls.

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posted May 03, 2012 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Anyway, I just wanted to point out the similarities between the two of you.

That and the fact that the internet can be a frickin' pain in the a$$ in distorting meanings/nuances/tones, etc., almost to the point of disembowelment sometimes-talk about capital punishment!



The internet doesn't distort when one manipulates reality to suit their ego, which I won't stand for either online or in person.

But I understand your intentions here, LJ.

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Originally posted by Lonake:

The internet doesn't distort when one manipulates reality to suit their ego, which I won't stand for either online or in person.

But I understand your intentions here, LJ. [/B]



You go girl!!

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posted May 03, 2012 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the links aquacheeka!

And to get abit back on topic this would be quincunx mine. But I guess an easier quincunx than sag since we have the same planetary ruler.

"Taurus men may be attracted to Libra women for the same reasons that Taurus women appeal to them. Both signs have a strong aesthetic appreciation. They like domestic tranquility and sensuality, and prefer to surround themselves with beautiful things. Also, the Libra will appreciate the decisiveness of the Taurus, while the Libra’s compromising nature prevents clashes with the infamous Taurean stubbornness. Neither sign is inclined to fight over trivial things, though Libra flirtatiousness may trigger Taurean jealousy."

^that must be it tho..

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posted May 03, 2012 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting how Sagittarius women and Virgos show so much flexibility in who they end up with... both are mutable signs. In contrast, fixed signs seem to show clear and statistically significant preferences.

I guess we're not the easiest to live with.

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