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Yin
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posted April 27, 2012 08:56 AM
  
Couples with Suns in square, opposition or inconjunct tend to be softer, milder, even atypical representations of their Sun signs. Their egos get a beating from having to cope with inharmonious energies and they have the potential to become their better selves through... suffering, if you will. Some of them never make it as the challenges are too big and why choose a hard lesson when you don't have to?Your thoughts? IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted April 27, 2012 09:06 AM
Couples with Sun in square will have Moon in sextile, conjuntion or trine and will work. Couples with Suns AND Moons in square will have Mercury, Venus and Mars in easy aspects. If they have also these planets in square they might have ASC in easy aspects. Above all if they synastry is the worst they might have karmic points.
Also, people with easy aspects between Sun and Moon might have other hard aspects that can make the relationship to not work at all. Overall Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Saturn must be checked. Also the karmic points. You cannot change your fate and you also cannot avoid your karmic lessons. IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted April 27, 2012 09:15 AM
Yes, yes, I know I'm oversimplifying things...BUT Lately I've been thinking that we/I don't place enough stock in Sun sign astrology. I mean, Linda wrote her beautiful "Love Signs", based on Sun signs alone! That book is like a bible to me. I keep going back to it over time, just to have my observations and experiences confirmed. I believe that we are karmically programmed to become our Suns and therefore I treat Sun signs with great importance. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted April 27, 2012 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Yin:
Yes, yes, I know I'm oversimplifying things...BUT Lately I've been thinking that we/I don't place enough stock in Sun sign astrology. I mean, Linda wrote her beautiful "Love Signs", based on Sun signs alone! That book is like a bible to me. I keep going back to it over time, just to have my observations and experiences confirmed. I believe that we are karmically programmed to become our Suns and therefore I treat Sun signs with great importance.
I'm sorry for what I am about to say but a true astrologer will never do a natal or synastry analysis based only on the Sun signs. I don't mean to offend Linda Goodman but every human being is an INDIVIDUAL and cannot be divided in 12 signs. Astrology is far more complex and we people are very complex. I believe that we are karmically programmed to become our Suns and therefore I treat Sun signs with great importance. Nope. We are karmically programmed to become our NN signs. We are already our Sun sign. Its our SPIRIT. We cannot be born without a SPIRIT. And since Sun is vitality, from the very first time we are kept alive by its power.
Do not treat the Sun Sign with a great importance if you forget the other planets. Sun is only a part of who we are. A small part actually. IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted April 27, 2012 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
We are already our Sun sign. Its our SPIRIT. We cannot be born without a SPIRIT. And since Sun is vitality, from the very first time we are kept alive by its power.
I like the spirit part. But I still believe that we grow into our Suns. I'm interested in astrology enough to have read and looked up a slew of aspects in mine and others' charts. Been here a loooong time... long enough to grow skeptical of all of it, so the back to basics works for me. 
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gemisagscorp
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posted April 27, 2012 09:31 AM
Now I have sun in gemini opposite my sagg ASC and my moon inconjunct my sun, this is difficult, especially the inconjunction. My moon and ASC are dominating my sun. People with opposition and inconjunction dont scare me at all, but Ihave problems with the squares and the signs next to my sun sign. I dont have squares in my own chart so maybe thats why I dont like having them in synastry. They are just irritating but I think the oppositons can make you grow because the attraction is more magnetic and you do share a lot of traits with your opposite sign. It is like yin and yangIP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted April 27, 2012 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by Yin:
I like the spirit part. But I still believe that we grow into our Suns. I'm interested in astrology enough to have read and looked up a slew of aspects in mine and others' charts. Been here a loooong time... long enough to grow skeptical of astrology even.
Nope. Believe me, we are not. We grow through three things: SATURN, ASCENDANT AND NN.Saturn is giving us lessons and discipline us to become mature persons through the Ascendant. NN is the path we must follow. Our destiny.
People feel a change after Saturn return or after the age of 30. Do you know why? After the age of 30 we develope the traits of our ascendant. Saturn is ending with his discipline and we are free to follow our path. Before the age of 30, we are stuck into our SN. The growth is slow and slow and Saturn is doing his job.
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Aquacheeka
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posted April 27, 2012 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Yin:
Yes, yes, I know I'm oversimplifying things...BUT Lately I've been thinking that we/I don't place enough stock in Sun sign astrology. I mean, Linda wrote her beautiful "Love Signs", based on Sun signs alone! That book is like a bible to me. I keep going back to it over time, just to have my observations and experiences confirmed. I believe that we are karmically programmed to become our Suns and therefore I treat Sun signs with great importance.
I just wanted to co-sign this statement. I have been going over some of Hollywood's most successful couples over the last six months and it's simply incredible how many of the same sign combinations come up over and over and over.
I suppose it's equally possible Hollywood screens by sun signs, but that doesn't explain all the Leo/Capricorn couples or all the sun sign opposition couples. Also, Brad and Angelina's whole chart (including moons) are squares and oppositions. Some people DO like a challenge. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 27, 2012 10:25 AM
Beautiful Taurus/Virgo married Hollywood couple:  IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted April 27, 2012 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I just wanted to co-sign this statement. I have been going over some of Hollywood's most successful couples over the last six months and it's simply incredible how many of the same sign combinations come up over and over and over.I suppose it's equally possible Hollywood screens by sun signs, but that doesn't explain all the Leo/Capricorn couples or all the sun sign opposition couples. Also, Brad and Angelina's whole chart (including moons) are squares and oppositions. Some people DO like a challenge.
There is no challenge. Brangelina share a KARMIC life. Once their karma is burned, they are gonna end their relationship no matter how many years shall pass. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted April 27, 2012 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yin:
[b] I like the spirit part. But I still believe that we grow into our Suns. I'm interested in astrology enough to have read and looked up a slew of aspects in mine and others' charts. Been here a loooong time... long enough to grow skeptical of astrology even.
Nope. Believe me, we are not. We grow through three
things: SATURN, ASCENDANT AND NN.Saturn is giving us lessons and discipline us to become mature persons through the Ascendant. NN is the path we must follow. Our destiny.
People feel a change after Saturn return or after the age of 30. Do you know why? After the age of 30 we develope the traits of our ascendant. Saturn is ending with his discipline and we are free to follow our path.
Before the age of 30, we are stuck into our SN. The growth is slow and slow and Saturn is doing his job.[/B][/QUOTE]  good stuff thanks R!
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Aquacheeka
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posted April 27, 2012 10:30 AM
I've looked at approximately 200-250 Hollywood couples currently intact and checked for sun sign compatibility. The majority were with compatible sun signs; when they weren't it was typically recurring signs over and over again (examples: Virgo and Aries, Aquarius & Pisces, Capricorn and Leo) with few deviations.I didn't just look at the big ones everyone knows; one example was Heather Graham and Yaniz Raz, who even knows about that couple? lol. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 27, 2012 10:31 AM
Oh, I noticed for marriages there were almost as many sun sign oppositions as conjunctions.IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted April 27, 2012 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Oh, I noticed for marriages there were almost as many sun sign oppositions as conjunctions.
Any Sag-Cancer pairings? IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 27, 2012 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
People feel a change after Saturn return or after the age of 30. Do you know why? After the age of 30 we develope the traits of our ascendant.
I've read the opposite of this before; I've read that we are more our ascendant in our youth and as teens and that the sun becomes more apparent as we get older and become more comfortable with who we are. Let me find the link; the astrologer actually says that the ascendant is insignificant after 30, lol.
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Yin
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posted April 27, 2012 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
There is no challenge. Brangelina share a KARMIC life. Once their karma is burned, they are gonna end their relationship no matter how many years shall pass.
What do you mean by "karmic life"? IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 27, 2012 10:36 AM
Here it is:
http://www.alwaysastrology.com/rising-signs.html
"The Ascendant is said to be the mask one wears in public… it is the first impression we make when we meet new people. Often, if you are confused at how others have described you, it is because they are describing this aspect of your personality. The Ascendant takes part in your appearance and personality, going as far as influencing physical characteristics sometimes. The Sign becomes expressed in your image, style and mannerisms. It is also expressed in how you act. Some astrologists theorize that the Sign becomes weaker after a person reaches 30 years of age, as their confidence grows in who they are."
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Rosalind
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posted April 27, 2012 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Yin:
What do you mean by "karmic life"?
Karmic life means two people must share a life of FRIENDSHIP OR LOVE relationship in order to learn some lessons. Lessons that they refused or didnt have the chance to learn in past life so they are FORCED to learn them in their current life.
But every couple and karmic life is different. Some people stay together 2 years and some people 40. In the end, the most important thing is to have the lesson learned. Otherwise they will reincarnate again and again until their mission is complete. Of course, as long they are mature enough to understand that a relationship is built, not given and that love is something that stays forever while passion is the first to die.
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Rosalind
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posted April 27, 2012 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Here it is:
http://www.alwaysastrology.com/rising-signs.html
"The Ascendant is said to be the mask one wears in public… it is the first impression we make when we meet new people. Often, if you are confused at how others have described you, it is because they are describing this aspect of your personality. The Ascendant takes part in your appearance and personality, going as far as influencing physical characteristics sometimes. The Sign becomes expressed in your image, style and mannerisms. It is also expressed in how you act. Some astrologists theorize that the Sign becomes weaker after a person reaches 30 years of age, as their confidence grows in who they are."
Question: Do you learn astrology from the internet or from books? Do you have some insight? Copy paste is not useful you know? AGE OF 30 is the age when people reach MATURITY. They change, they grow. Saturn is not there in vain and the ASC is not considered since ancient times one of the most important POINTS in the astrology chart for nothing. But we will talk again after you reach the age of 30. You will give me the right. IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted April 27, 2012 10:51 AM
Hi Rosalind, do you mean that you have a karmic life despite the astrology of it? In other words - synastry and composite aspects are not important, there is something beyond the charts that makes ppl stay together? 'Cause that's how I feel about relationships in general. LOL. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted April 27, 2012 10:59 AM
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Hi Rosalind, do you mean that you have a karmic life despite the astrology of it? In other words - synastry and composite aspects are not important, there is something beyond the charts that makes ppl stay together? 'Cause that's how I feel about relationships in general. LOL.
Yes. When synastry and composite chart are awful, must be checked the karmic points. Its the only thing that can stick two people together even if its short-term. But also, there are two types of karma. The karma that give us individual lessons and karma that give us lesson that must be worked out with other people. Both types must be complete.NOTHING is coincidence. People think that astrology is a myth, that the stars don't rule our destiny and that everything we do is about luck and hard work. But how many people who worked hard all their lives received what they wanted? And how many people are lucky? Luck is not for everyone and definitely not all the people who work hard receive their reward. Otherwise, people wouldnt complain about their lives, would be more happier, richer and above all LOVED. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted April 27, 2012 11:01 AM
I'm with you, Yin. The sun is big. I think you can tell a lot from the relationship from the sun signs alone, in a way that you can't tell by looking at other signs or aspects.The degrees and decans of the sun matter to me, though. By "inconjunct" do you mean quincunx or semi-sextile? Does it matter?  IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted April 27, 2012 11:02 AM
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Any Sag-Cancer pairings?
Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted April 27, 2012 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes.
Tom and Katie have Moon in conjunction and karmic points. The girl didnt stay virgin until very late in life is she didnt know subconciously that Tom is the one with whom must share a karmic life. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 27, 2012 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Yin:
Any Sag-Cancer pairings?
There were some really historically famous ones. Not so many currently. At least three successful Virgo-Sadge famous couples, which was a surprise.
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