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phoenixxx12
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posted May 08, 2012 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixxx12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tnx Rosalind, i am not sure his friends are so good, they have their agenda, but i am really hoping his Saturn return opens his eyes and in my minds eye and this is what i pray for - i see him working as a male nurse in an Emergeny Room...we will try to somehow persuade him to go back to school for this...i will update...much love to u

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posted May 08, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Here it is: http://s1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb348/aquaj/?action=view¤t=astro_2gw_02_jen117 499492.gif


Is it the right type of chart?


No. The ruler of your NN falls in 4th house. Btw. I don't like that Saturn in 4th house. Your family life is or was quite rigid and hard right? Also Mars shows violence in your home life.And Pluto shows intense relationship here. And karmic of course along with his "friend" Saturn. In conclusion, you have a heavy karma with your family. And to be honest, I find quite ironical that having that heavy karma you have also lots of planets in your 7th house. The family you will create one day. But you must know something. You wont be able to have a happy and peaceful home life in the family created by you if you don't learn your karmic lesson: to first create better relationships with the family where you where born.

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posted May 08, 2012 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
No. The ruler of your NN falls in 4th house. Btw. I don't like that Saturn in 4th house. Your family life is or was quite rigid and hard right? Also Mars shows violence in your home life.And Pluto shows intense relationship here. And karmic of course along with his "friend" Saturn. In conclusion, you have a heavy karma with your family. And to be honest, I find quite ironical that having that heavy karma you have also lots of planets in your 7th house. The family you will create one day. But you must know something. You wont be able to have a happy and peaceful home life in the family created by you if you don't learn your karmic lesson: to first create better relationships with the family where you where born.



Yeah I had a pretty horrific home and family life growing up. My stable and rational parent was not living in the home (working overseas to provide a lavish, well-travelled lifestyle for us and so that my other parent could stay home) and the parent I was left with was abusive and psychotic, there was a lot of physical abuse growing up to the point where I had to wear makeup to cover up black eyes and was whipped with telephone cords and things like that. When I left home my first place of residence was a battered woman's shelter. I don't like to talk about it. I will not be having a family of my own.

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posted May 08, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Yeah I had a pretty horrific home and family life growing up. My stable and rational parent was not living in the home (working overseas to provide a lavish, well-travelled lifestyle for us and so that my other parent could stay home) and the parent I was left with was abusive and psychotic, there was a lot of physical abuse growing up to the point where I had to wear makeup to cover up black eyes and was whipped with telephone cords and things like that. When I left home my first place of residence was a battered woman's shelter. I don't like to talk about it. I will not be having a family of my own.

I understand and I apologize if I caused you any suffering. It wasnt my intention. I can understand why you don't want to have a family on your own but, those planets in 7th house shows that part of your life must be fulfilled. Its part of your destiny and cannot be avoided.

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posted May 08, 2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I understand and I apologize if I caused you any suffering. It wasnt my intention. I can understand why you don't want to have a family on your own but, those planets in 7th house shows that part of your life must be fulfilled. Its part of your destiny and cannot be avoided.


It's OK. Your reading was pretty accurate. Just so you know.
I think a married couple can constitute a family. As far as I know, 7th house rules marriage and partnership. I have Saturn in the fifth... I think that if I were meant to have children I would not have been given a difficult childhood with no frame of reference for functional parenting, and this placement that creates trouble with procreation, fertility and childrearing (and has been linked to miscarriage). I think it's pretty obvious that I was not meant to have children.

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posted May 08, 2012 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least with all these 7th house placements, I will make one heck of a wife

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posted May 08, 2012 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already told you that your Saturn is part of your 4th house not your fifth. The sign on the cusp of 5th house is in Cappy and Saturn is in 4th. You have Uranus and Neptune in 5th. You will face two things: Unexpected pregnancy and desilussions with children. Neptune is cunning here. In both romances and children. But, you WILL have children. One or 2. No more. But you will. A bit later though. And the delay is caused also by your family karma.

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posted May 08, 2012 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes that's right you did say that... I thought you were talking about Pluto. Sorry about that. Um, yes I know all about disillusionment with children. That is one reason I will not be having any. I won't rule out an unexpected pregnancy but this would end in either miscarriage or abortion as I won't be having any children at any point ever, as I stated. I do thank you for your reading and your time.

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posted May 08, 2012 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Oh yes that's right you did say that... I thought you were talking about Pluto. Sorry about that. Um, yes I know all about disillusionment with children. That is one reason I will not be having any. I won't rule out an unexpected pregnancy but this would end in either miscarriage or abortion as I won't be having any children at any point ever, as I stated. I do thank you for your reading and your time.

You are welcome.

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posted May 08, 2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus in the 5th certainly explains a lot though! lol.

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posted May 08, 2012 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, just read this from DKFoundation:

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Uranus in the 5th House signifies a developmental need for a person to learn about his creative potential, and how it is released by authentic expression .

This placement of Uranus is commonly found in charts with the Moon in one of the houses of Universal consciousness, or in the signs Aquarius or Pisces, indicating that the past life experience afforded little scope for individual expression.



That's the case for me, my moon is in Pisces.... creepy!

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posted May 08, 2012 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 08, 2012 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I agree Yin, Sun square Sun can be a constructive aspect in synastry if both people are willing to cooperate in general.

I'm a Leo sun and my boyfriend is a Taurus Sun, we have a tight Sun- Sun square. When we first started dating it was conflicting, especially since I lack earth and the literal earthiness of Taurus was hard to adjust to at times. But his Moon is sextile my Sun, so once we established more of a emotional connection things started to pan out.

And also like you observed, were both not typical of our Sun signs.

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posted August 07, 2012 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixxx12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by phoenixxx12:
[B] Here u go Rosa

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posted August 07, 2012 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixxx12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Rosalind i think your readings are absolutly phenomenal,i have been pouring through your answers and learning sooooo much, but i wanted to ask u about something u said about 8th house NN, which completly moved me, because you have so completly encapsulated the feeling in my opinion. And so i wanted to inquire the following my brother has natally NN in 8th house Cancer and hWhat did u mean when u said these souls are unevolved. What should one with do with this 8th house NN?

If u find time please look and comment on 8th house NN, i will be eagerly awaiting your answer!

Blessings 2 u


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posted August 07, 2012 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by phoenixxx12:

I don't understand a thing.

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posted August 07, 2012 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by phoenixxx12:

Someone else asks this ^ question here: http://tribes.tribe.net/moonsnodes/thread/2ff0b212-5357-4ee2-be36-5ea051e3ae46

To discuss the topic of the OP: I agree with the Sun having more weight than we tend to discuss, in love and everything. I have, what I guess is an unorthodox view that all the other planets and aspects are either barriers or enablers to the true sun of our selves, even when they aren't directly aspecting. IT all comes back to the sun no matter what as it's what shines and gives life to all the rest. Crazy? Maybe. It makes intuitive sense to me though. I think our Sun just wants to be shining and the closer we can get to expressing it through ourselves or others, the happier we are and so often I think, when the sun feels embraced and welcome by a partner, it's a keeper and all the other aspects either get in the way or help it to happen, depending on whether or not they are sun supportive and honestly, I think the ascendant is never something we become unless we are stressed, afraid, undeveloped or unaware. I believe the closer we get to being on our right path, the closer we get to being our sun. So long answer short in my very subjective and not at all academic opinion is yes! sun is big time important in relationships and I agree that any aspect, planet or person that makes your sun feel inhibited, directly or indirectly through other planets which in turn connect to the sun, softens, or I would say, casts clouds on your expression of your shining sun.

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posted August 07, 2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshift:

To discuss the topic of the OP: I agree with the Sun having more weight than we tend to discuss, in love and everything. I have, what I guess is an unorthodox view that all the other planets and aspects are either barriers or enablers to the true sun of our selves, even when they aren't directly aspecting. IT all comes back to the sun no matter what as it's what shines and gives life to all the rest. Crazy? Maybe. It makes intuitive sense to me though. I think our Sun just wants to be shining and the closer we can get to expressing it through ourselves or others, the happier we are and so often I think, when the sun feels embraced and welcome by a partner, it's a keeper and all the other aspects either get in the way or help it to happen, depending on whether or not they are sun supportive and honestly, I think the ascendant is never something we become unless we are stressed, afraid, undeveloped or unaware. I believe the closer we get to being on our right path, the closer we get to being our sun. So long answer short in my very subjective and not at all academic opinion is yes! sun is big time important in relationships and I agree that any aspect, planet or person that makes your sun feel inhibited, directly or indirectly through other planets which in turn connect to the sun, softens, or I would say, casts clouds on your expression of your shining sun.

Very well put! I agree. Obviously.

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posted August 09, 2012 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixxx12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by phoenixxx12:
[B] (((((Rosalind)))))

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posted August 09, 2012 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixxx12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by phoenixxx12:
Rosalind i think your readings are absolutly phenomenal,i have been pouring through your answers and learning sooooo much, but i wanted to ask u about something u said about 8th house NN, which completly moved me, because you have so completly encapsulated the feeling in my opinion. What did u mean when u said these souls are unevolved. What should one with do with this 8th house NN?

If u find time please look and comment on 8th house NN, i will be eagerly awaiting your answer!

Blessings 2 u


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posted August 09, 2012 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, redshift, that was brilliant!

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posted August 09, 2012 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshift:
Someone else asks this ^ question here: http://tribes.tribe.net/moonsnodes/thread/2ff0b212-5357-4ee2-be36-5ea051e3ae46

To discuss the topic of the OP: I agree with the Sun having more weight than we tend to discuss, in love and everything. I have, what I guess is an unorthodox view that all the other planets and aspects are either barriers or enablers to the true sun of our selves, even when they aren't directly aspecting. IT all comes back to the sun no matter what as it's what shines and gives life to all the rest. Crazy? Maybe. It makes intuitive sense to me though. I think our Sun just wants to be shining and the closer we can get to expressing it through ourselves or others, the happier we are and so often I think, when the sun feels embraced and welcome by a partner, it's a keeper and all the other aspects either get in the way or help it to happen, depending on whether or not they are sun supportive and honestly, I think the ascendant is never something we become unless we are stressed, afraid, undeveloped or unaware. I believe the closer we get to being on our right path, the closer we get to being our sun. So long answer short in my very subjective and not at all academic opinion is yes! sun is big time important in relationships and I agree that any aspect, planet or person that makes your sun feel inhibited, directly or indirectly through other planets which in turn connect to the sun, softens, or I would say, casts clouds on your expression of your shining sun.


I agree. Just yesterday I was hanging out with a Capricorn who has four planets in fire and four in air and an earth singleton and a Gemini moon, and while he was less of a shy Cappy and hard to get to the altar, he was still a Cappy nonetheless - driven, conservatively stylish, committed in relationships and doesn't see the point if it's not going to last (Mars in Gemini, Venus in Sagittarius). You can't erase the sun.

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posted August 09, 2012 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yin:
Yes, yes, I know I'm oversimplifying things...

BUT

Lately I've been thinking that we/I don't place enough stock in Sun sign astrology. I mean, Linda wrote her beautiful "Love Signs", based on Sun signs alone! That book is like a bible to me. I keep going back to it over time, just to have my observations and experiences confirmed.

I believe that we are karmically programmed to become our Suns and therefore I treat Sun signs with great importance.


totally agree with u, this has been my experience over and over again

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posted August 10, 2012 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixxx12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by phoenixxx12:
Rosalind i think your readings are absolutly phenomenal,i have been pouring through your answers and learning sooooo much, but i wanted to ask u about something u said about 8th house NN, which completly moved me, because you have so completly encapsulated the feeling in my opinion. And so i wanted to inquire the following my brother has natally NN in 8th house Cancer - possibly a career in caring What did u mean when u said these souls are unevolved. What should one with do with this 8th house NN?

If u find time please look and comment on 8th house NN, i will be eagerly awaiting your answer!

Blessings 2 u


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posted August 11, 2012 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phoenixxx12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by phoenixxx12:
[b] (((((Rosalind)))))

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