posted April 29, 2012 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Rosalind,
Choose to see it however it best suits you, I couldn't care less. But I will be ignoring you from here on out.

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posted April 29, 2012 09:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Diana:
The more I know about astrology, the more important I believe sun signs to be, and I'm not a novice. Granted, they're not the be all end all, but nothing in astrology is -- it's the whole chart. That said, the sun is more important than the nodes and points like the vertex -- much more important. The first indicator I look for for descriptions of a person's personality is their sun and it usually tells me a lot. Then I look at the moon and AC. They're not called "The Big Three" for nothin'. Then of course I look at the all the other planets, houses and aspects etc.

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posted April 29, 2012 01:29 PM            

FWIW, I think you both come across to me as exceptionally wonderful and helpful.

A most recent example is of Lonake taking the time to help hskahn who really, really needed someone to help sort out stuff going on in her life. Lonake, your chart analysis has pointed her in the right direction (at least that's what I get from her feedback).

Without a doubt you and Rosalind are both kind and compassionate.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out the similarities between the two of you.

posted April 29, 2012 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Yeah, the misunderstandings between the two of you are really just due to lackl of voice inflection and facial expressions.body language. Smilies can only help so much. I think the two of you would be great friends in real life.

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I seriously doubt that. I met my best friend on the internet 7 years ago. And like she was in the virtual life she was also in the real one.

posted April 29, 2012 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Diana:
The more I know about astrology, the more important I believe sun signs to be, and I'm not a novice. Granted, they're not the be all end all, but nothing in astrology is -- it's the whole chart. That said, the sun is more important than the nodes and points like the vertex -- much more important. The first indicator I look for for descriptions of a person's personality is their sun and it usually tells me a lot. Then I look at the moon and AC. They're not called "The Big Three" for nothin'. Then of course I look at the all the other planets, houses and aspects etc.

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posted April 29, 2012 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Yes. When synastry and composite chart are awful, must be checked the karmic points. Its the only thing that can stick two people together even if its short-term. But also, there are two types of karma. The karma that give us individual lessons and karma that give us lesson that must be worked out with other people. Both types must be complete.

NOTHING is coincidence. People think that astrology is a myth, that the stars don't rule our destiny and that everything we do is about luck and hard work. But how many people who worked hard all their lives received what they wanted? And how many people are lucky? Luck is not for everyone and definitely not all the people who work hard receive their reward. Otherwise, people wouldnt complain about their lives, would be more happier, richer and above all LOVED.

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posted April 29, 2012 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by neptunicity:
Do you know how we can know what is our karma in this lifetime via astrology? How? I assume it's like a specific lesson or theme of triumph or suffering..

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posted April 29, 2012 04:47 PM            

You said, "Btw, SN in 12th house shows to the native that the current reincarnation is the last one."

Is this only in relation to houses or can it be applied to signs as well? Example someone w/ SN in Pisces-will the current life be the last one?

posted April 30, 2012 06:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
You check the angles, NN and SN, Pluto and Saturn. Also in which houses they fall. Regarding the houses: 12th house is the worst house. Saturn, Pluto or Nodes here means karma of suffering. I have Pluto and SN in 12th and its bad. Btw, SN in 12th house shows to the native that the current reincarnation is the last one. After that comes the LIBERATION. I have that. NN in 1st, 4th, 7th or 10th can lead to triumph or fall regarding those houses. SN there is bad no matter what. Saturn is a karmic planet along with Pluto. In 7th house for example, it forces you to burn your karma through relationships. Saturn in 7th is difficult and unbearable. NN in 2nd house is bad for financial matters. In 3rd means you have a communication karma. You have to learn to perfect your communication skills. Also shows karma with siblings. In 5th house karmic romances and karmic relationship with children. Beware! SN in 5th house, might bring back people from your past lives incarnated in your current children and make you pay your debt towards them. SN in 5th gives trouble with children and its worse than trouble in romances. In 9th house you have to learn to be spiritual and to create your special bond with God and so on. Now, karmic lessons are not shown only by karmic points but also by karmic planets and 0 and 29 degrees. The more RX planets you have in the natal the more you have to pay. The more you have planets at 0 and 29 degrees the more you will have to learn to begin and end things.To initiate things and to let go.

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This is very interesting, i'm learning a lot, thank you. Um, my north node is in taurus in the 4th house, so does that mean i'll have a not so nice family life? And if taurus is my north node, then scorpio is my south node right? I don't have planets in my 12th house, but i have venus, saturn and pluto in retrograde. Saturn is in my 10th house and pluto is in the 9th house. My sun is pisces at 29.07 degrees. Am i getting it right regarding the degrees? Is there a website or software that can compute the karmic points and the nodes? I don't know which houses my south node falls. Sorry if i ask too many questions, i'm still a beginner. :-)

posted April 30, 2012 07:50 AM            

I can't fathom how SN in the 12H would be the last incarnation. You would be here to learn how to master practical earthly things (NN in 6H). Whereas with NN in the 12H, you would be learning the lessons of coming undone. That seems more fitting for final incarnation...doesn't it?

I have Saturn in the 12th, and my life hasn't been easy, but nor has it been full of suffering. I believe in "the power of positive thinking" as much as I believe in anything in this world.

posted April 30, 2012 08:02 AM            

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I've also read that North Node in Pisces could be the last incarnation.... particularly, if your NN is in the last degrees of Pisces.

I can't fathom how SN in the 12H would be the last incarnation. You would be here to learn how to master practical earthly things (NN in 6H). Whereas with NN in the 12H, you would be learning the lessons of coming undone. That seems more fitting for final incarnation...doesn't it?

I have Saturn in the 12th, and my life hasn't been easy, but nor has it been full of suffering. I believe in "the power of positive thinking" as much as I believe in anything in this world.

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SN in 12th not NN means your last reincanation. Why? Because NN goes to 6th hose, the house of serving OTHERS. If one complete his karma of this house, means he has mastered all his karmic lessons therefore receives his liberation. Serving others the native will learn what compassion and kindness means and he will understand all the 12th house matters (how to be a spiritual being) thing he couldnt be in a past life. If he completes this karma, he completes ALL. The trick is to be aware of it and to not avoid it. I have this axis and I'm very much into social work.

posted April 30, 2012 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Makes sense, but I thought Pisces (12H) was the sign of "serve or suffer." Both Virgo and Pisces serve, now that you mention it, and are more alike than I realized.

Thanks for saying my suffering won't be forever...I had a difficult childhood. But I thought all Capricorns do, more or less.

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posted May 01, 2012 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
NN in 4th house that in your current life time you have to develop a better relationship with your roots and family. With SN in your 10th, means that in a past life you were too busy and too career orietented to mantain a close relationship with your family. Now you have to be less workaholic and more family oriented. No planets in 12th means you have already burned your suffereing karma. Venus Rx. You have a karma of love. In this life you will have to learn to LOVE and to not be afraid of your feelings. You have to learn not to repress them. Saturn RX. You need discipline and maturity. Pluto RX means you need to learn the meaning of deep things like death and occult. You need to learn to be less superficial about Plutonian matters and to understand what is beyond. Saturn in 10th house delays triumph in career. You will have to work HARD in order to gain what you want. Meanwhile, take care of your family. Pluto in 9th forces you to create a special and deep bond with GOD. If you don't believe in him, your karma is to learn to BELIEVE. Sun in Pisces at 29 degrees. Let go everything what provokes you an unnecesary suffering. Learn to let go all the material ambitious, what you cannot have and learn to love the spiritual ones.
The soul, after the LIBERATION need a period of 7 years to wander until he decides where to go. Regarding your brother, yes, this is his last reincarnation.

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Thank you for the info, my karmic lessons do match what i'm going through in life. God really intended our karmic lessons to clash with our personality so that we could challenge ourselves to be a better person. So the soul still has a choice whether to reincarnate or not after 7 years? So it's similar to what i heard before that people who commit suicide have a choice whether to reincarnate again or to just "roam around".

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Originally posted by neptunicity:
Thank you for the info, my karmic lessons do match what i'm going through in life. God really intended our karmic lessons to clash with our personality so that we could challenge ourselves to be a better person. So the soul still has a choice whether to reincarnate or not after 7 years? So it's similar to what i heard before that people who commit suicide have a choice whether to reincarnate again or to just "roam around".

Just wondering, were you able to see one of your past lives? There are past life regression seminars/therapies being offered here, and i plan to try it someday.

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posted May 01, 2012 03:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Just the houses. There's also another indicator for the native to know if the current reincarnation is the last one or not. Sun or Moon in 4th, 8th or 12th house. If Sun or Moon are present this HOUSES this is LAST reincarnation.

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posted May 01, 2012 06:01 AM            

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Originally posted by mercuranian:
Whoa.. i guess this is my last reincarnation: saturn in 12 close to ascendant, sun in 12, moon in 8. also nn in 8th.
Rosalind - what is your interpretation of 8th house north node?

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posted May 01, 2012 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The soul choose to reincarnate again only if karma is NOT complete mastered. In your brother's case it is. So no, he is not gonna reincarnate again, he's gonna receive his liberation. With people who commit suicide is another deal. Far more complicated. Regarding past life regression, I didnt do such thing YET but I do have sometimes memories from my past lives. Not many and they do not work like a film in my head. Just random ones.

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By the way, my brother has uranus in the 12th house too, what challenge does that pose in his life? Also, a friend of mine has pluto in the 12th house. But she's been lucky in life most of the time. She's a consistent honor student, has a good job, and a very active love life. So i'm wondering what challenge does pluto in the 12th house pose for her?