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Topic: What is your toughest aspect (natal)??
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted May 07, 2012 12:36 PM
  
What aspect is the toughest in your natal chart and how do you feel it holds you back?Mine would have to be sun conjunct saturn in the twelfth house, i honestly feel that i am unable to feel good about myself or have any kind of self esteem in this life because of these placements,and thus i have low self confidence. picture simaltaneously feeling like no one would notice or care if you just dissappeared from the earth and at the same time always feeling judged and you get an idea of how i feel sometimes. So what aspect or placement is your sore/sensitive spot? IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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From: Minnesota
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posted May 07, 2012 12:48 PM
I usually don't like any aspects involving Saturn whether it's bad or good aspect ... and I have three of them opposing jupiter squaring venus and conjuncting ascendant ( in the 12th) ... however I don't feel less confident, I think they just balance out my ego and make it less unbearable since my sun is exalted ...
But still they restrict me from doing many things -.-IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted May 07, 2012 12:50 PM
Ooh and about saturn sqaure venus ... I get compliment from people and I don't believe them ... never. I always think they are only faking it for the sake of just being nice to me , and maybe I'm right IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted May 07, 2012 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
I usually don't like any aspects involving Saturn whether it's bad or good aspect ... and I have three of them opposing jupiter squaring venus and conjuncting ascendant ( in the 12th) ... however I don't feel less confident, I think they just balance out my ego and make it less unbearable since my sun is exalted ...
But still they restrict me from doing many things -.-
Yea i dont think sun or saturn alone in the twelfth would be as bad,challenging yes,but when you put them both in there conjunct each other it is pure h*ll haha,plus my sun is in detriment already,alot of self doubt but im getting as life goes along.IP: Logged |
sc0rpioRising
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posted May 07, 2012 01:04 PM
For me..where do I start! lol..
I think Saturn opposition Mars... Have saturn in the 12th too.....I'm not sure how that actually manifests... but it just sounds awful! Then Venus square neptune... you can see where im going with that one! um moon square saturn too....think it boils down too by saturn being in the 12th house. I have saturn conjunct ascendant, and oh gosh my younger years I was just a depressed child, never happy, always looked serious, and now that im getting older im learning to just live and enjoy life rather than everything just being all gloomy! Guess thats what saturn is all about, learning and growing and patience! IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted May 07, 2012 01:05 PM
 Look at all my Venus aspects. I wouldn't say it's a bummer, more like a ride. Saturn opposite my ASC isn't fun either. IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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From: Minnesota
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 07, 2012 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by vickymadness:
[b]I usually don't like any aspects involving Saturn whether it's bad or good aspect ... and I have three of them opposing jupiter squaring venus and conjuncting ascendant ( in the 12th) ... however I don't feel less confident, I think they just balance out my ego and make it less unbearable since my sun is exalted ...
But still they restrict me from doing many things -.-
Yea i dont think sun or saturn alone in the twelfth would be as bad,challenging yes,but when you put them both in there conjunct each other it is pure h*ll haha,plus my sun is in detriment already,alot of self doubt but im getting as life goes along.[/B][/QUOTE] Hey! you are an Aqua !! you should be proud 
I don't really take aspects seriously I believe everyone has the ability to " build " their own self and nearly create/develop any quality they want
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted May 07, 2012 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Ooh and about saturn sqaure venus ... I get compliment from people and I don't believe them ... never. I always think they are only faking it for the sake of just being nice to me , and maybe I'm right
I agree, venus square saturn is hard as well, just this past november and december i was kind of seeing this sag girl and she was beautiful, she was 5`10 and had a nice body and big beautiful blue eyes,this girl could honestly be a model,and to just add to it she was funny as hell,smart,and sweet to boot, but she had seriously low self esteem,and yea you guessed it,she had venus square saturn exact. After seeing her over a month i was sold, i wanted to make it official,but she said in her own words "i dont deserve love or a good guy"and than she pulled away from me and we havent really talked since.
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Hera
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posted May 07, 2012 01:22 PM
Though I really do hate my Sat/Pluto-Mars opp sometimes, the thing that totally knocks me out is NOT having aspects lol - to my Venus. I'm trying hard to integrate poor Venus somewhere in there, but I swear I don't even know where to start sometimes lol. It is like this itchy feeling when you KNOW there's something you can't exactly grasp though it's in your reach.
Awww Aquaguy, don't feel like that! You have a lot of fans here, 'specially the ladies heehee! You're a great guy, from what I can tell from your posts (and not just because your Moon conjuncts my Venus unaspected lol), you have plenty to be proud of, IMO. 
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted May 07, 2012 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Hey! you are an Aqua !! you should be proud
I don't really take aspects seriously I believe everyone has the ability to " build " their own self and nearly create/develop any quality they want
I love being an aqua , its just that sun conjunct saturn in the twelfth has caused me alot of rejection and dissapproval in life, from the time i was toddler it was very apparent that i was different and my family loved me all the same but there was always the feeling that my behavior rubbed them the wrong way,and when i started kindergarten the real issues began, because i was different i was made to feel defective or that something was wrong with me, by the time i was in 4th grade it had been suggested that i had adhd,that i was autistic,or aspergers syndrome,none of which i actually have by the way, they just wanted to find a way to label me and give me a red pill so i would stop being an individual , so i learned that nobody really valued my ideas or who i was as an individual,so i just became a recluse and kept my mouth shut,i still do to an extent.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 07, 2012 01:43 PM
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Aquacheeka
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posted May 07, 2012 01:44 PM
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vickymadness
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From: Minnesota
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 07, 2012 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by vickymadness:
[b] Hey! you are an Aqua !! you should be proud
I don't really take aspects seriously I believe everyone has the ability to " build " their own self and nearly create/develop any quality they want
I love being an aqua , its just that sun conjunct saturn in the twelfth has caused me alot of rejection and dissapproval in life, from the time i was toddler it was very apparent that i was different and my family loved me all the same but there was always the feeling that my behavior rubbed them the wrong way,and when i started kindergarten the real issues began, because i was different i was made to feel defective or that something was wrong with me, by the time i was in 4th grade it had been suggested that i had adhd,that i was autistic,or aspergers syndrome,none of which i actually have by the way, they just wanted to find a way to label me and give me a red pill so i would stop being an individual , so i learned that nobody really valued my ideas or who i was as an individual,so i just became a recluse and kept my mouth shut,i still do to an extent.[/B][/QUOTE]waiit that's their opinion right ? no one cares about it Still you will find tons of people admiring you for who you are.
In my life whenever I tell my friend I have a crush on a certain guy ( he turns out to be an aqua most of the time lol ), she tells me how come I like someone who is that weird or freak ... that's her opinion , and my opinion is, those people are the ones who make life as unique and exciting as their spirit IP: Logged |
la_mer
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posted May 07, 2012 01:54 PM
anyone experience with a venus mars opposition? I always have to weigh discomfort against dissatisfaction. and that sucks. real happiness is supposed to be satisfying, but with this aspect I feel that they often exclude one another. especially since jupiter is dominant in my chart and happiness/luck is my drug, I like to be more comfortable than satisfied so ask me about my love life.. saturn aspects spur you on to learn your lessons, yes sometimes with a hammer, a lot of bad times (with saturn on the IC and opposed my moon I know it can hurt like a mother, haha) but at least, imo, it allows you to be happy, once you've learned..IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 07, 2012 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
For me..where do I start! lol..
I think Saturn opposition Mars... Have saturn in the 12th too.....I'm not sure how that actually manifests... but it just sounds awful! Then Venus square neptune... you can see where im going with that one! um moon square saturn too....think it boils down too by saturn being in the 12th house. I have saturn conjunct ascendant, and oh gosh my younger years I was just a depressed child, never happy, always looked serious, and now that im getting older im learning to just live and enjoy life rather than everything just being all gloomy! Guess thats what saturn is all about, learning and growing and patience!
Wow. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 07, 2012 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I also think this aspect is a big reason why I have zero desire for parenthood, I think it makes me take the responsibility too seriously to see any joy in it (raising children). I literally can see nothing good about it, only the hardship.
My older brother also has this,but it just makes him extremely level headed and responsible,but than again he is a mega leo (sun,ascendant,moon,venus and mars) so it probably just levels him out, but he can definitely be a big party pooper at times haha,he is always telling me how irresponsible i am. Also he is 24 and told me he is still a virgin, even though he is very desired by women.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted May 07, 2012 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Though I really do hate my Sat/Pluto-Mars opp sometimes, the thing that totally knocks me out is NOT having aspects lol - to my Venus. I'm trying hard to integrate poor Venus somewhere in there, but I swear I don't even know where to start sometimes lol. It is like this itchy feeling when you KNOW there's something you can't exactly grasp though it's in your reach.
Awww Aquaguy, don't feel like that! You have a lot of fans here, 'specially the ladies heehee! You're a great guy, from what I can tell from your posts (and not just because your Moon conjuncts my Venus unaspected lol), you have plenty to be proud of, IMO.
Aww you are a sweetheart <3, plus you are really pretty. And i dont have an unaspected venus,but it is afflicted, i think the worst aspect it makes is an exact quincunx to chiron, venus also squares:mars,moon, pluto,and uranus. So i understand how venus troubles go as well, they suck dont they :/.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted May 07, 2012 02:42 PM
I HATE my Moon opposition Pluto. It creates constant (I mean every. little. thing.) power struggles with my mother, and I've picked and chosen my battles with her, too. In my natal chart it's a big line. And to me it's almost like you have to cross that line, wall, barrier to get to all the action going on the other side. I never feel at ease emotionally either. Not that I'm always on the verge of a breakdown but I'm a guarded person by nature and it's hard to lighten up. I'd trade it for the world, even if it does give me a certain vibe of being a force to be reckoned with.I think my Sun and Venus square Saturn are lighter compared to the opposition, and that those can be overcome by merely changing my mindset. Moon in the 12th, Pluto in the 6th. Taurus/Scorpio. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted May 07, 2012 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I HATE my Moon opposition Pluto. It creates constant (I mean every. little. thing.) power struggles with my mother, and I've picked and chosen my battles with her, too. In my natal chart it's a big line. And to me it's almost like you have to cross that line, wall, barrier to get to all the action going on the other side. I never feel at ease emotionally either. Not that I'm always on the verge of a breakdown but I'm a guarded person by nature and it's hard to lighten up. I'd trade it for the world, even if it does give me a certain vibe of being a force to be reckoned with.
I think my Sun and Venus square Saturn are lighter compared to the opposition, and that those can be overcome by merely changing my mindset.
Moon in the 12th, Pluto in the 6th. Taurus/Scorpio.
I have the opposition too, and i relate to everything you just said.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted May 07, 2012 02:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannaramaa:
[b]I HATE my Moon opposition Pluto. It creates constant (I mean every. little. thing.) power struggles with my mother, and I've picked and chosen my battles with her, too. In my natal chart it's a big line. And to me it's almost like you have to cross that line, wall, barrier to get to all the action going on the other side. I never feel at ease emotionally either. Not that I'm always on the verge of a breakdown but I'm a guarded person by nature and it's hard to lighten up. I'd trade it for the world, even if it does give me a certain vibe of being a force to be reckoned with.I think my Sun and Venus square Saturn are lighter compared to the opposition, and that those can be overcome by merely changing my mindset. Moon in the 12th, Pluto in the 6th. Taurus/Scorpio.
I have the opposition too, and i relate to everything you just said.[/B][/QUOTE] I also don't like being pressured or put on the spot emotionally (like "Do you like me? How do you feel?) I'm an Aries and have Mercury in Aries but I don't think that makes me direct, just unintentionally abrasive. I'm an indirect person which is frustrating but I wonder if Moon opp. Pluto plays apart in that. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted May 07, 2012 03:14 PM
Moon conjunct Chiron in the 9th. I feel that this aspect makes me so alone... at times when I envy other people who had normal loving mothers. Mine was a flake who abandoned me and has always tried to make up for it but always fails. She's lacking in compassion and sincerity and it hurts so much to realize that she often doesn't even have enough for me. Only upside is this helps me understand and heal the suffering of others, especially those without loving families and backgrounds and with substance abuse issues, but - I can only do this through my own past experiences of pain and tragedy. My own pain has opened my eyes to the sheer suffering of others. Yet at times it's very much like you want to ask yourself, WHY did I have to feel this terrible paint to start with? Sometimes Moon-Chiron in hard aspect makes me feel like I can lift the sorrows of every other person but never myself in the end. ------------------
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted May 07, 2012 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I also don't like being pressured or put on the spot emotionally (like "Do you like me? How do you feel?) I'm an Aries and have Mercury in Aries but I don't think that makes me direct, just unintentionally abrasive. I'm an indirect person which is frustrating but I wonder if Moon opp. Pluto plays apart in that.
Same here, i can be very private when it comes to my feelings,and try to keep them in check, but i often times feel as if i could be overpowered by my emotions at any second ,moon trine neptune probably plays a part in that as well,it makes me extremely uncomfortable being a double aqua.
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hannaramaa
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posted May 07, 2012 03:21 PM
I have Moon trine Neptune too! And Moon trine Saturn, and Moon trine Uranus. I never thought about it but all those moon aspects... no wonder I'm an emotional person! the Moon trine Saturn is like having a Cappy moon. And I already have a Taurus one, so I go steady, steady, steady BOOM moon trine Uranus and I blow up, and then I feel guilty (moon trine neptune? and moon opp. pluto) Makes so much sense now.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 07, 2012 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I have Moon trine Neptune too! And Moon trine Saturn, and Moon trine Uranus. I never thought about it but all those moon aspects... no wonder I'm an emotional person! the Moon trine Saturn is like having a Cappy moon. And I already have a Taurus one, so I go steady, steady, steady BOOM moon trine Uranus and I blow up, and then I feel guilty (moon trine neptune? and moon opp. pluto) Makes so much sense now.
Im a taurus moon and also have moon trine uranus and mercury as well, sounds like we have quiet a bit in commonIP: Logged |
la_mer
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posted May 07, 2012 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Moon conjunct Chiron in the 9th. I feel that this aspect makes me so alone... at times when I envy other people who had normal loving mothers. Mine was a flake who abandoned me and has always tried to make up for it but always fails. [...]Sometimes Moon-Chiron in hard aspect makes me feel like I can lift the sorrows of every other person but never myself in the end.
Have this too, along with my sun right next to it in the 10th. the result is parents issues, not just mum issues.. In my childhood love had to be worked for and was/is not shown unconditionally. In the end I'm more hurt that they don't understand me. Nevermind that they dislike(d) the things I do or say, but I would've given a lot for just a little bit of understanding.. IP: Logged | |
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