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Topic: Water Moon People
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 10771
From: Wankety Wankerson
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 16, 2012 12:49 AM
  
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Ok I come to my bottom line, having derailed this thread maximally. In my eyes, there are no feminine tasks. I can do many household tasks as well as most women and some moderately well. The one thing I cannot do is breast feed. My dream job is to stay at home and take care of my family. I envy stay at home moms and aspire to be a stay at home grandpa. The one thing I won't ever do as a stay at home is drive a minivan. I hope the soccer girls like faster Porsches and Aston Martins. That much I'm not feminine. Ami says its Moon Trine Venus. That's all. 
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 10771
From: Wankety Wankerson
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posted May 16, 2012 01:35 AM
YTA, in all seriousness though I am not an a s s or a misygonist as people on here like to think, I just feel compelled to defend my brothers (men) as no one else really cares to do so. You have Venus trine moon in your chart,I have the square along with several other hard aspects to my Venus. I have saw you post how you have had positive relationships with women, I have had anything but. I have had tried to be the best boyfriend I could be to the ladies in my life and have been sh!t on repeatedly, I have given and. given and gotten nothing in return, so maybe you can understand why I. don't exactly jive with the whole talk that. you commonly hear of how men need to. be better husbands and need to be be more attentive to their women's needs, why should I go the extra mile for them when none would do the same for me? I am being completely and utterly honest when I say that the only positive example I have of a woman is my mother,and because of her I have a faint hope that maybe there is a female out there who is worth my time. On the other hand I have had very positive friendships with men, my friends are my brothers and have my back no matter what, they have always been there for me and would give me the shirt off there back if I needed it. So you maybe you can understand why I stick up for the guys,when they have always been there and I can't recall a time when a " female" friend has. But in spite of all that I still love women and would jump in front of a bullet for one if I had to. So we can agree to disagree, you have had good experiences with women, so you sympathize with them more and I sympathize with men because I have had nothing but positive with them.IP: Logged |
naturalbeige
Knowflake Posts: 230
From: Portland, OR
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted May 16, 2012 02:40 AM
I have a Pisces Moon, and I can say that it is very strong. I think because there is something "tidal" about water moons. Plus, it's where people can feel their yin/feminine energies. Water moons make us more introverted and receptive of the environment around us. IP: Logged |
butterflyxoxxo
Knowflake Posts: 286
From: seattle
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 16, 2012 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
The man who can project his feminine and sensitive side is confident in his masculinity that he doesn't need to flaunt it.Machoism and bravado can be displayed in due course where it counts. When the stuff hits the fan, the men stay and deal with the issue and the boys go running. The image of what is socially desirable in the popular media is often at odds with practical life. For example, the man who typically wears tight fitting jeans to highlight a bulge in front usually doesn't have an anatomy that functions well. I buy most of my wife's cosmetics, her fragrances, her feminine medicine, her sanitary napkins, etc. I know her garment and shoe sizes, and I also know what attire she likes. I know which flowers she likes. I have no problem buying her undergarments if instructed. The issue at hand is most women see such a man as just being a pervert. The feminine aisle at the pharmacy clears out whenever I arrive, which is just very convenient for me :) Men who cannot understand crying as a healthy form of emotional release are either incredibly repressed or just insensitive. Granted, nobody's demanding a guy to be John Boehner, who seems to cry whenever the sun hides behind a cloud, and totally loses it emotionally when his pizza is cold. The typical "macho" man in popular media doesn't have the wherewithal to withstand the sight of child birth, but has no issue with the act of procreation. The typical "macho" man is a wuss.
I find this odd. No offense. I just want a guy who can protect and provide. Everything else I can do. I like being a women and I dont like ordering guys around. IP: Logged |
MessyLilLeo
Knowflake Posts: 192
From: the heart
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 16, 2012 03:15 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Then you discover your wife was on LindaLand forums consulting AstroGuru about Synastry with that hot guy down the street that cooks for her, washes her hair and does her manicures.
Well, YoursTrulyAlways, I'm pretty sure you fit the dream man profile for 78.623% of American women.
My boyfriend is deathly afraid of looking "gay". It never ceases to amaze me that he can pore over books about "How to Make More Horsepower" for hours on end, comprehending and applying the information therein, but the concept of putting clothes in the laundry bin and thoroughly rinsing (or *gasp* washing) dishes when finished with them, etc is beyond him. Anyway, I think the first post I ever made on the Linda Land forums was about our crappy relationship. I suppose it only follows that at some point I'll be "cheating" by posting my chart with someone else's. Good call. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 10771
From: Wankety Wankerson
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 16, 2012 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by MessyLilLeo:
Well, YoursTrulyAlways, I'm pretty sure you fit the dream man profile for 78.623% of American women.
My boyfriend is deathly afraid of looking "gay". It never ceases to amaze me that he can pore over books about "How to Make More Horsepower" for hours on end, comprehending and applying the information therein, but the concept of putting clothes in the laundry bin and thoroughly rinsing (or *gasp* washing) dishes when finished with them, etc is beyond him. Anyway, I think the first post I ever made on the Linda Land forums was about our crappy relationship. I suppose it only follows that at some point I'll be "cheating" by posting my chart with someone else's. Good call.
well ifyou aren't happy you should dump him simple as that.IP: Logged |
butterflyxoxxo
Knowflake Posts: 286
From: seattle
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 16, 2012 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
YTA, in all seriousness though I am not an a s s or a misygonist as people on here like to think, I just feel compelled to defend my brothers (men) as no one else really cares to do so. You have Venus trine moon in your chart,I have the square along with several other hard aspects to my Venus. I have saw you post how you have had positive relationships with women, I have had anything but. I have had tried to be the best boyfriend I could be to the ladies in my life and have been sh!t on repeatedly, I have given and. given and gotten nothing in return, so maybe you can understand why I. don't exactly jive with the whole talk that. you commonly hear of how men need to. be better husbands and need to be be more attentive to their women's needs, why should I go the extra mile for them when none would do the same for me? I am being completely and utterly honest when I say that the only positive example I have of a woman is my mother,and because of her I have a faint hope that maybe there is a female out there who is worth my time. On the other hand I have had very positive friendships with men, my friends are my brothers and have my back no matter what, they have always been there for me and would give me the shirt off there back if I needed it. So you maybe you can understand why I stick up for the guys,when they have always been there and I can't recall a time when a " female" friend has. But in spite of all that I still love women and would jump in front of a bullet for one if I had to. So we can agree to disagree, you have had good experiences with women, so you sympathize with them more and I sympathize with men because I have had nothing but positive with them.
I have to agree with aquaguy...I personally would not feel comfortable with a guy who wanted to do all the women stuff. I was in a relationship with a guy like this (Virgo Moon, Cancer Venus) and I ended up just taking advantage of him. Its so easy to take advantage of people even if you love them if you dont set standards.I also cant stand women who boss men around because I used to do that and it make all women look bad. Also, there is such thing as women and guy roles if you dont agree go to Japan or Mexico to see what I am talking about. This country is so obsessed with equality and pretending like women can do everything a man can and vice versa. Well we are built for different things. Women want to act like men but they dont want to act like gentlemen (open doors, etc) I date alot and I constantly hear men complain about how women are too demanding/manly etc.
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butterflyxoxxo
Knowflake Posts: 286
From: seattle
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 16, 2012 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
YTA, in all seriousness though I am not an a s s or a misygonist as people on here like to think, I just feel compelled to defend my brothers (men) as no one else really cares to do so. You have Venus trine moon in your chart,I have the square along with several other hard aspects to my Venus. I have saw you post how you have had positive relationships with women, I have had anything but. I have had tried to be the best boyfriend I could be to the ladies in my life and have been sh!t on repeatedly, I have given and. given and gotten nothing in return, so maybe you can understand why I. don't exactly jive with the whole talk that. you commonly hear of how men need to. be better husbands and need to be be more attentive to their women's needs, why should I go the extra mile for them when none would do the same for me? I am being completely and utterly honest when I say that the only positive example I have of a woman is my mother,and because of her I have a faint hope that maybe there is a female out there who is worth my time. On the other hand I have had very positive friendships with men, my friends are my brothers and have my back no matter what, they have always been there for me and would give me the shirt off there back if I needed it. So you maybe you can understand why I stick up for the guys,when they have always been there and I can't recall a time when a " female" friend has. But in spite of all that I still love women and would jump in front of a bullet for one if I had to. So we can agree to disagree, you have had good experiences with women, so you sympathize with them more and I sympathize with men because I have had nothing but positive with them.
I dont blame you at all. I think all women manipulate to get there way. I fight this urge constantly, most of the time I dont even notice. But both genders have their dark sides. For instance, I cant find a true guy friend. They all pretend at first but really just want to sleep with me. I also find that men are extremely sensitive, so much more than me. So easy to hurt their ego. IP: Logged |
butterflyxoxxo
Knowflake Posts: 286
From: seattle
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 16, 2012 03:34 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MessyLilLeo:
[b] Well, YoursTrulyAlways, I'm pretty sure you fit the dream man profile for 78.623% of American women.
My boyfriend is deathly afraid of looking "gay". It never ceases to amaze me that he can pore over books about "How to Make More Horsepower" for hours on end, comprehending and applying the information therein, but the concept of putting clothes in the laundry bin and thoroughly rinsing (or *gasp* washing) dishes when finished with them, etc is beyond him. Anyway, I think the first post I ever made on the Linda Land forums was about our crappy relationship. I suppose it only follows that at some point I'll be "cheating" by posting my chart with someone else's. Good call.
well ifyou aren't happy you should dump him simple as that.[/B][/QUOTE] Life goes by way too fast to be unhappy. There are 7-8 Billion people on this planet. The odds work in your favor.
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 10771
From: Wankety Wankerson
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posted May 16, 2012 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
I have to agree with aquaguy...I personally would not feel comfortable with a guy who wanted to do all the women stuff. I was in a relationship with a guy like this (Virgo Moon, Cancer Venus) and I ended up just taking advantage of him. Its so easy to take advantage of people even if you love them if you dont set standards.I also cant stand women who boss men around because I used to do that and it make all women look bad.Also, there is such thing as women and guy roles if you dont agree go to Japan or Mexico to see what I am talking about. This country is so obsessed with equality and pretending like women can do everything a man can and vice versa. Well we are built for different things. Women want to act like men but they dont want to act like gentlemen (open doors, etc) I date alot and I constantly hear men complain about how women are too demanding/manly etc.
thank you, i personally think it is confusing as h*ll to be a man in american culture. You hear women say I am strong and independent, I don't need a man for nothing but turn right around and become furious if we don't jump when they call. We are supposedly a culture striving for complete equality but yet men are expected to still pay for all the dates, open doors, make the first move etc and is labeled a loser if he doesn't live up to all these things,it is perfectly acceptable for a woman to expect a man to live up to all the traditional roles of men and also try to be a sensitive new age Guy, and a woman who has these expectations is not seen as sexist at all. But yet a man is sexist if he has any traditional expectations of how a woman should behave and act he is a sexist pig? Am I the only one who can see all the hypocrisy in the dating and relationship realm? To me its the pink elephant in the room, that's all I have to say on this matter. IP: Logged |
MessyLilLeo
Knowflake Posts: 192
From: the heart
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 16, 2012 04:25 AM
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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
Life goes by way too fast to be unhappy. There are 7-8 Billion people on this planet. The odds work in your favor.
Yup, true dat...
I'm just a puss I guess. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 10771
From: Wankety Wankerson
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posted May 16, 2012 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by MessyLilLeo:
Yup, true dat...
I'm just a puss I guess.
Haha well you are a Leo after all XD, I kid I kid, you seem sweet and you are really funny, you shouldn't have any trouble finding a decent fella,if you are truly unhappy with the Guy you are with now then you should end it. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 16, 2012 05:34 AM
Hey, protect and provide I do very well. Hell, provide to the wazoo. My wife and I divide and conquer. Who said anything about anyone dominating me? I kick their a s s. Doing housework does not change me from being an Alpha Male personality and I'll take on anyone. As "gay" as I sound on paper in LL, I still have two black belts (sorry to repeat) and I went through Ranger indoctrination and certification at Fort Benning (sorry to repeat). I'll snap a neck in two if I have to.In the real world, sh1t at home still needs to get done. You guys will understand after you get married and have kids. I'm a better cook, so I cook most meals. She's a better baker, so she bakes the deserts. I make the money and she spends it. Fair  But yes, aquaguy91, I'm very tough on the guys, and that's the way it is. I happen to side with the women on this one. IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 16, 2012 07:05 AM
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I am being completely and utterly honest when I say that the only positive example I have of a woman is my mother,and because of her I have a faint hope that maybe there is a female out there who is worth my time.
AQUAGUY~ Isn't LL mostly female? Don't you love us?  Far be it from me to tell you who you are. But I get the impression that you fit in QUITE well with women, more than other men do. You, YTA, AD, Randall, sand....and like 150 women are the regulars here. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 16, 2012 09:13 AM
Honestly, the best way to make life easy on yourself is not to adopt an "us" vs. "them" attitude. I know you probably have had a rough time with women, but they are just human beings, and getting to know them and integrate yourself into their mindset would do wonders in getting along better with them, and also getting them to like you.IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted May 16, 2012 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Honestly, the best way to make life easy on yourself is not to adopt an "us" vs. "them" attitude. I know you probably have had a rough time with women, but they are just human beings, and getting to know them and integrate yourself into their mindset would do wonders in getting along better with them, and also getting them to like you.
 re: this and your other posts in this thread: You sound like my husband. Perhaps it's because you both have Moon trine Venus (Saggie/Aries on his end, though). IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted May 16, 2012 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Ok I come to my bottom line, having derailed this thread maximally. In my eyes, there are no feminine tasks. I can do many household tasks as well as most women and some moderately well. The one thing I cannot do is breast feed. My dream job is to stay at home and take care of my family. I envy stay at home moms and aspire to be a stay at home grandpa. The one thing I won't ever do as a stay at home is drive a minivan. I hope the soccer girls like faster Porsches and Aston Martins. That much I'm not feminine. Ami says its Moon Trine Venus. That's all.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 16, 2012 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Never take advice from a man with a porno moustache (Dr phil) or a man who drives a mini van and if he happens to be a combination of both run far away
I don't take cues from anybody named Doctor [First Name] and any guy who drives a minivan, if he does, unless the minivan has been modded to include a 600 hp twin turbo V8 at a minimum IP: Logged |
extant_pisces
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From: Chicago, IL
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 16, 2012 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I have saw you post how you have had positive relationships with women, I have had anything but. I have had tried to be the best boyfriend I could be to the ladies in my life and have been sh!t on repeatedly, I have given and. given and gotten nothing in return, so maybe you can understand why I. don't exactly jive with the whole talk that. you commonly hear of how men need to. be better husbands and need to be be more attentive to their women's needs, why should I go the extra mile for them when none would do the same for me?
In regards to this post and not the one subsequent to it, I would say this sounds pretty fair. However, I don't think anyone on this thread has suggested repaying bad treatment with either (ludicrous) financial incentives or increased attentiveness. Rather, it's my personal opinion that while some aspects of the traditional male-female relationship are obviously unsatisfactory, it's other people's prerogative to maintain expectations of so-called masculine and feminine duties where there is mutual consent. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted May 16, 2012 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
AQUAGUY~
Isn't LL mostly female? Don't you love us?
Far be it from me to tell you who you are. But I get the impression that you fit in QUITE well with women, more than other men do.
You, YTA, AD, Randall, sand....and like 150 women are the regulars here.
I'm talking about women my age where i live. Most of the girls around here prefer to meet guys at clubs and bars and are somehow shocked when that strategy doesnt work out as they planned. they call me boring and poke fun at me for not being the kind of guy who preys on drunk women. I have had 2 girls willing to have sex with me on our first meeting and when i didnt do it,they called me gay and laughed at me,but im just not that type of guy,i actually take those things seriously. so thats why i dont get along with the girls my age, they say they want a good guy with a head on his shoulders but then laugh at us when we are.IP: Logged |
extant_pisces
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posted May 16, 2012 11:56 AM
^^^^ Eww, those are some rank-and-skeezy sounding moves. I know a lot of women who were not at all that way at 21, and I'm not inclined to believe times have changed much. You just won't necessarily find them at bars and clubs, more like (what's left of) bookstores, museums, and public libraries ...campus quad/student centres are good spots too. IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted May 16, 2012 11:58 AM
^ Was going to say, aquaguy - it kind of sounds like you're looking for girls at the wrong places, too  IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted May 16, 2012 11:58 AM
Aqua^^ you might be happy with a 35yr old mature woman then IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted May 16, 2012 12:01 PM
@ church would be refreshing since ur having absolutely no luck elsewhere IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 16, 2012 12:10 PM
Stop going to bars and clubs. Go to brainy places like the library or museum or even the bank [psst... the successful ones don't have time for clubs, and the rich ones in clubs are spoilt brats]. Go to church. It always does you well. Go to classical music recietals and jazz concerts. Dress well and girls will notice you.I was called boring too. Till I drove by the same girls who called me boring but wanted to get into my Porsche. IP: Logged | |
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