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fenia
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posted June 20, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fenia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by crissyx89:
Yes I understood what you said and I disagree.Your Environment has a strong factor in how your astrology natal manifests.Yes I've read quite a bit about karmic astrology.This is an open forum I have a right to state my opinion just like you do CHEERS!


Hi, Crissy. Do you know any Hollywood star gossip? Just curious

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 20, 2012 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Venus conj Merc, sq Saturn/Uranus. What's your bet she's gonna be much younger? Just checked their charts Vanessa is 9 yrs younger already. His Moon in Cap would be attracted to age difference as well as the Aqua DSC.

LOL Ok we'll see,but sounds like sure bet,Kate was younger too,and Cap Sun

I've read rumour about the girl he starred with in The Run Diary,Amber something,by the looks,very younger than him,like early - mid 20s.

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mercuranian
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posted June 20, 2012 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't know about him and amber heard, she has a girlfriend last i read.

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posted June 20, 2012 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Mercury

Thank you! I would always become confused on house rulers, when not using equal or whole house systems.


Have a great day =)

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 20, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercuranian:
i don't know about him and amber heard, she has a girlfriend last i read.

Very impractical,I bet three way ride would be exciting gor his Mars/Uranus. She,apparently,broke up with her gf

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mercuranian
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posted June 20, 2012 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Very impractical,I bet three way ride would be exciting gor his Mars/Uranus. She,apparently,broke up with her gf

hmm.. verry interesting...

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 20, 2012 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Other Mars/Ura person I deal with,these days,is Tom Cruise,he has that new big film out,Rock of Ages,bit no big scoring for him. He can't sing,and therefore the film is bad. Been looking on his transitions.

The man is so Mars/Ura. I found it hilarious when a journalist commented on him being so nice yet when he looks at you he doesn't blink

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SpiritualScorp
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posted June 20, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpiritualScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always felt the karmic tie between these two had to do with money and fame. If you look at their relationship, Johnny was a great actor playing in smaller more eccentric films. After he met Vanessa his star rose until he was the number one celebrity in the world.

I feel Vanessa and her Capricorn ways helped him achieve this end. However, Johnny may have appreciated this at the time, but this gave the relationship a distinctly business-like interior. Johnny making money, Vanessa supporting him. That's not very balanced.

I don't feel there was much balance in this relationship at all--even though they kept telling the world how much in love they were. I wouldn't doubt it if there were huge arguments away from the prying eyes of the public.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 20, 2012 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh,they were no Brangelina,no cashing in on public displays. A private couple!

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crissyx89
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posted June 20, 2012 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fenia:
Hi, Crissy. Do you know any Hollywood star gossip? Just curious

I wish I knew lol I mainly work behind the scenes.So my gossip is on the casting directors,PR Firms.Unfortunately nobody cares about them!

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posted June 20, 2012 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing much changes in the composite with TOB or incorrect birth place except for minor aspects and sometimes sextiles, and of course the moon and ASC.

The moon is pretty important to a composite, but since everything else in this composite is badly aspected, it's pretty safe to tell whether a relationship would work out or not.

Yeah, VD I saw the synastry, too It is much better than the composite haha. But still nothing extraordinary, right? I think what kept them together is the composite venus-jupiter-mercury stellium because with composite venus conjunct jupiter you always want to give that person a second shot and stay their friend. But it doesn't seem like they would be very close.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 20, 2012 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah,wouldn't call it extraordinary,too,but I gotta admit that big square has some merit, her Ven/Nep(swoon-worthy ladies,always) sq his Mars/Ura.

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posted June 20, 2012 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh man this blows... but this is life. i agree that he is a free bird; conventiality just isn't his bag. hope they can find some happiness again.

i also disagree with the assessment that a person with empty 7th houses will never marry. my mother has empty 5th and 7th. she has two children was married for 23 years. ok she's seperated now but she did manage to marry at least once. even if the empty 7th house person marries they are just as likely to stay married for life as the person with the super active 7th house.

beyonce knowles = empty 7th and 5th
elvis presley = empty 7th
drew barrymore = empty 7th (just married...)

no need to get all technical now. stick to the basics. lets not start pulling at straws

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 20, 2012 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Beyonce chart were you using? With Leo Asc?

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posted June 21, 2012 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Love this,Ceridwen,I know that you are interested in astro aspect of relationships,really,very cool,one can see the goods you derive from fascination with specific part of astrology


Thanks.

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Ceridwen
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posted June 21, 2012 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Nothing much changes in the composite with TOB or incorrect birth place except for minor aspects and sometimes sextiles, and of course the moon and ASC.



Actually, yes, a lot changes. Or let`s say it is not so much that something changes, but with missing birthtime we lack important information.
What we are lacking is knowing in which houses aspects fall and which houserulers are making what aspects. It definitely makes a difference if a Sun-Pluto-trine is tied to the 1st and 5th house as compared to the 6th and 10th house.


What we still have is the aspect structure, and that on its own can be pretty illuminating. It`s just not as specific and individualized as it would be with the inclusion of the houses (of course people still disagree on housesystems, too; I can of course only speak about MY kind of astrology, and this only works with Placidus/ topocentric).

it still is illuminating to know that a couple has Venus-Jupiter conjunction in a composite, or a Venus-Saturn-square.
We just have to keep in mind that this composite is true for ANYONE born that day, while with the inclusion of the houses, the timespan is much shorter (the moments when both people were born) and it is more unlikely that they would share this composite with anyone else, even if that other person was born at the same day.
It`s just more "unique" and "individual" that`s all. It doesn´t make a composite without birthtimes "wrong" though, just not as specific as it could be.


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posted June 21, 2012 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Nothing much changes in the composite with TOB or incorrect birth place except for minor aspects and sometimes sextiles, and of course the moon and ASC.

The moon is pretty important to a composite, but since everything else in this composite is badly aspected, it's pretty safe to tell whether a relationship would work out or not.

Yeah, VD I saw the synastry, too It is much better than the composite haha. But still nothing extraordinary, right? I think what kept them together is the composite venus-jupiter-mercury stellium because with composite venus conjunct jupiter you always want to give that person a second shot and stay their friend. But it doesn't seem like they would be very close.



This is the biggest BULSHIT I ever read. How on Earth can you say something like that? TOB is CRUCIAL IN ASTROLOGY.

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posted June 21, 2012 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
[b]Nothing much changes in the composite with TOB or incorrect birth place except for minor aspects and sometimes sextiles, and of course the moon and ASC.

The moon is pretty important to a composite, but since everything else in this composite is badly aspected, it's pretty safe to tell whether a relationship would work out or not.

Yeah, VD I saw the synastry, too It is much better than the composite haha. But still nothing extraordinary, right? I think what kept them together is the composite venus-jupiter-mercury stellium because with composite venus conjunct jupiter you always want to give that person a second shot and stay their friend. But it doesn't seem like they would be very close.



This is the biggest BULSHIT I ever read. How on Earth can you say something like that? TOB is CRUCIAL IN ASTROLOGY.[/B][/QUOTE]
OMG how rude BUT I do agree time of birth is CRUCIAL
A FABULOUS astrologer told me that once

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posted June 21, 2012 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
TOB is CRUCIAL IN ASTROLOGY.

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posted June 21, 2012 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LoVeLy:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
[b]Nothing much changes in the composite with TOB or incorrect birth place except for minor aspects and sometimes sextiles, and of course the moon and ASC.

The moon is pretty important to a composite, but since everything else in this composite is badly aspected, it's pretty safe to tell whether a relationship would work out or not.

Yeah, VD I saw the synastry, too It is much better than the composite haha. But still nothing extraordinary, right? I think what kept them together is the composite venus-jupiter-mercury stellium because with composite venus conjunct jupiter you always want to give that person a second shot and stay their friend. But it doesn't seem like they would be very close.



This is the biggest BULSHIT I ever read. How on Earth can you say something like that? TOB is CRUCIAL IN ASTROLOGY.[/B][/QUOTE]
OMG how rude BUT I do agree time of birth is CRUCIAL
A FABULOUS astrologer told me that once [/B][/QUOTE]
OMG! HOW RUDE!!!

Uhm... since when telling the truth is rude? I wasnt rude at all. I dislike people who treat astrology or any other area of life in a superficial way. Thats all.

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posted June 21, 2012 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just a discussion,
there is no reason for anyone to take anything personally
everyone here has the right to their own opinion.
Mutual respect is the answer, not temper, not insults.

If you feel you are right, back it up with corroborating links and lets approach this like...Knowflakes

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posted June 21, 2012 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LoVeLy:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
[b]Nothing much changes in the composite with TOB or incorrect birth place except for minor aspects and sometimes sextiles, and of course the moon and ASC.

The moon is pretty important to a composite, but since everything else in this composite is badly aspected, it's pretty safe to tell whether a relationship would work out or not.

Yeah, VD I saw the synastry, too It is much better than the composite haha. But still nothing extraordinary, right? I think what kept them together is the composite venus-jupiter-mercury stellium because with composite venus conjunct jupiter you always want to give that person a second shot and stay their friend. But it doesn't seem like they would be very close.



This is the biggest BULSHIT I ever read. How on Earth can you say something like that? TOB is CRUCIAL IN ASTROLOGY.[/B][/QUOTE]
OMG how rude BUT I do agree time of birth is CRUCIAL
A FABULOUS astrologer told me that once [/B][/QUOTE]
OMG! HOW RUDE!!!

Uhm... since when telling the truth is rude? I wasnt rude at all. I dislike people who treat astrology or any other area of life in a superficial way. Thats all.[/B][/QUOTE]
I neve4r said that telling the truth was rude BUT using the word ******** to anyone at all IS TOTALLY RUDE

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posted June 21, 2012 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LoVeLy:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by LoVeLy:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Rosalind:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
[b]Nothing much changes in the composite with TOB or incorrect birth place except for minor aspects and sometimes sextiles, and of course the moon and ASC.

The moon is pretty important to a composite, but since everything else in this composite is badly aspected, it's pretty safe to tell whether a relationship would work out or not.

Yeah, VD I saw the synastry, too It is much better than the composite haha. But still nothing extraordinary, right? I think what kept them together is the composite venus-jupiter-mercury stellium because with composite venus conjunct jupiter you always want to give that person a second shot and stay their friend. But it doesn't seem like they would be very close.



This is the biggest BULSHIT I ever read. How on Earth can you say something like that? TOB is CRUCIAL IN ASTROLOGY.[/B][/QUOTE]
OMG how rude BUT I do agree time of birth is CRUCIAL
A FABULOUS astrologer told me that once [/B][/QUOTE]
OMG! HOW RUDE!!!

Uhm... since when telling the truth is rude? I wasnt rude at all. I dislike people who treat astrology or any other area of life in a superficial way. Thats all.[/B][/QUOTE]
I neve4r said that telling the truth was rude BUT using the word ******** to anyone at all IS TOTALLY RUDE [/B][/QUOTE]

Its just a word. And then, I find more rude whwn someone comes and say these stupid things when this forum is about TO learn astrology not just debate.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 21, 2012 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And once when same "just words" were directed at you,you wanted to leave. When something is truth and ******** is also smelly and comes from a bull. Anything else is matter of your perception and subjective impression
You point would be stronger without it. I remember time when you were very relatable and open for discussions.

Sure,we learn astrology here,but also have certain degree of knowledge. The articles that are meant to novices are specially selected and are in school and beginners subfofum.

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posted June 21, 2012 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Nothing much changes in the composite with TOB or incorrect birth place except for minor aspects and sometimes sextiles, and of course the moon and ASC.


Having birth time helps give a lot of important details, but you can still have a lot of information without one.

I guess that I look at it like being a partly cloudy day. You won't see the whole sky, but you'll see enough of the sky to get a general idea of what it looks like.

The biggest thing that you would miss would be the ascendant and house placements without having a birth time, and that is inconvenient, but you'd still have most of your planet placements. Occasionally, you might not (if a planet changed signs that day), but normally, you'd have them. At the very least, you'd be able to narrow it down to two possibilities and would still have other placements. So, while you couldn't interpret the entire chart without a birth time, you could at least look at parts of it, so it wouldn't be a total loss. It would be a partial loss. Like having hearing loss or sight loss, but without being completely blind or completely deaf.

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