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Topic: Johnny Depp & Vanessa Paradis Split
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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 19, 2012 04:52 PM
  
 It's official,they spilt,announced today. The couple I actually thought will last. Johnny's tob is AA,as per astro.com,but Vanessa's is DD,so I am posting only Johnny's chart.
He has been having very interesting time,and more to come.
He is an actor,so what really stands out
*amazing time in front of him pMoon to conjunct nNeptune H8 ruler,and tPluto to conj nMoon H12 ruler; natal Moon is in H6 : job+H12 artistry
*pMC on nSun H1 ruler
So we have raw potential of H8,refinement of H12 all that focusing on the career. What could reflect the split? tJupiter squaring his DSC ruler Uranus. Johnny is Uranian,and probably feels the transit strongly:Jupiter is freedom loving planet. He also has saNN on nPluto,Pluto as H4 ruler : the inner persona,the hungry kid,what feels just right - I rooted for this couple but be does seem so unreachable,can't be tied down type - not in the sense that he is neglecting his responsibilities,just his state of mind. Mars conj Uranus people tick in all the unexpected ways,odd,hard to deal with,mood swings,forceful. Great soil for the art,but not so much for quiet life. So,now he is doing what he feels is good,true to himself.
A free bird,yes?
What do you think??
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crissyx89
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Registered: May 2012
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posted June 19, 2012 04:59 PM
Well its hollywood and 14 years in hollywood is like 30 in the real world.I personally just think its the environment.I've seen alot of hollywood couples with amazing synastry and they split.It makes you wonder if they were in the real world,would they be more willing to work it out and hang in there. IP: Logged |
Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
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posted June 19, 2012 05:06 PM
At first glance...pSun @ 4 Leo sq pMoon @ 5 Scorpio. This is a pFirst Quarter - Challenges. A period when it feels like you have to work really hard to get things off the ground. Or obstacles are placed in your way to advancement. Often, this is a phase where all our weaknesses are laid bare for all to see. We're caught off guard/ambushed/wrong-footed. Additionally, a steamroller type may emerge to knock up out and/or banish us into the wilderness. That in combination with pMars @ 0 Libra. For me, any planet progressing to Libra highlights relationship issues. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 19, 2012 05:14 PM
So,failing at first obstacles or is it a trigger?IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted June 19, 2012 05:20 PM
Not necessarily failing, but some succumb to the pressures and lose sight of the goal or original intent. As we all know, despite what we hear about the devil or "haters" challenge is written into every chart/cycle/life script. Of course I haven't looked at the synastry. This is what I've gleaned from his chart alone. At Johnny's age, I know he's lived this phase before. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted June 19, 2012 05:24 PM
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So,failing at first obstacles or is it a trigger?
Oh. Maybe that's it. pMars moving to Libra shows a redirection of his energies. pFQ creates the innner stirrings to take action. Interesting. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 19, 2012 05:28 PM
Haven't checked synastry either http://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie/Vanessa_Paradis
except for His Mars/Uranus sq her Ven/Nep.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 19, 2012 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Oh. Maybe that's it. pMars moving to Libra shows a redirection of his energies. pFQ creates the innner stirrings to take action. Interesting.
I like this - He is a big man,yet only now experiencing the fundamental energy shift by progression,it is bound to be shaky but in interesting ways,like learning to walk again. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 19, 2012 05:48 PM
tNeptune over cVenus and tRxSaturn could be over cMoon,too.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 19, 2012 11:11 PM
sa.Venus sq n.Jup, opp n.Moon, wanting to explore new relationship opportunities.p.Moon sq p.Sun, wants to move off into a diff direction and it's hard to find satisfaction where he's at. p.Moon conj n.IC, increased attn to home life and his real needs, in Scorp so possibly not wanting to accept imitations. p.Sun sq n.IC/MC, change in status. n.Moon sq Jupiter has solar arc'd to turn his natal Uranus into a tsquare. Uranus rules DSC.
and his sa.Jup was hit by the 0 deg Solar eclipse not too long ago in Gem.
t.Jup is activating this right now too, and sq n.Mars/Uranus feels a need to break free, circumstances seem v.limiting. Granted I don't know their relationship history so they could have been split a while before this time.
Home life being broken up, need for freedom, wanting change and taking a risk hoping it'll pay off. Jupiter going over his H11 Gem Sun should be a nice time, Sun rules ASC, Jup rules H5 and is natally in the 9th Aries. All looks positive. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted June 19, 2012 11:54 PM
What Johnny and Vanessa had was a KARMIC relationship. Since the very first moment I saw their charts i knew it wouldnt last. Karmic relationships are intense and seems forever but in fact in the end after karma is burned nothing remains left. Karma has nothing to do with Hollywood. They could have stayed together a century. Years does not matter. Karma lesson does.
Johnny has a lot of indicators in his chart pointing a problematic personal life. He got Saturn in his 7th house. He married once and got divorced after three years. His partnership karma is BURNED and the energy is gone. He doesnt have a focus there anymore. Marriage is DENIED for him. He will NEVER get married again. A live together life yes. Marriage no. Saturn is karmic and hits hard. Most of the time Saturn can act like a empty 7th house. Look at George Clooney. He got an empty 7th house. He married once, he got divorced and he never married again. Never mess with and empty 7th house and karmic planets there.IP: Logged |
crissyx89
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From: California
Registered: May 2012
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posted June 20, 2012 12:11 AM
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Karma has nothing to do with Hollywood. They could have stayed together a century. Years does not matter. Karma lesson does.
Johnny has a lot of indicators in his chart pointing a problematic personal life. He got Saturn in his 7th house. He married once and got divorced after three years. His partnership karma is BURNED and the energy is gone. He doesnt have a focus there anymore. Marriage is DENIED for him. He will NEVER get married again. A live together life yes. Marriage no. Saturn is karmic and hits hard. Most of the time Saturn can act like a empty 7th house. Look at George Clooney. He got an empty 7th house. He married once, he got divorced and he never married again. Never mess with and empty 7th house and karmic planets there.
I disagree I work in the entertainment industry.Most men in that industry don't value traditional relationships like people in the real world.Also the environment makes it difficult for traditional relationships. Plus he has venus uranus aspect that's heartbreak right there. Just because you have an empty 7th house doesn't deny marriage.Does an empty 6th house deny work?I think not we still need to eat and pay bills.
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Rosalind
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posted June 20, 2012 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by crissyx89:
I disagree I work in the entertainment industry.Most men in that industry don't value traditional relationships like people in the real world.Also the environment makes it difficult for traditional relationships.Plus he has venus uranus aspect that's heartbreak right there. Just because you have an empty 7th house doesn't deny marriage.Does an empty 6th house deny work?I think not we still need to eat and pay bills.
You obviously didnt understand a thing of what i said. We are talking here ASTROLOGY FACTS not HOLLYWOOD facts. Also you need to have knowledge about karmic astrology before you can come with a contra argument about empty houses.
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ariesdragon
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posted June 20, 2012 12:24 AM
LMAO this made me laugh so hard  Just because you have an empty 7th house doesn't deny marriage.Does an empty 6th house deny work?I think not we still need to eat and pay bills. Rosalind what did u mean by "don't mess with an empty 7H?" thanks  Does it mean don't take a relationship seriously with someone who has an empty 7H? Just curious  IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted June 20, 2012 12:29 AM
Or does it mean don't expect marriage?
With someone who has an empty 7th or the same if you have an empty 7th? Hmmm IP: Logged |
crissyx89
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posted June 20, 2012 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
You obviously didnt understand a thing of what i said. We are talking here ASTROLOGY FACTS not HOLLYWOOD facts. Also you need to have knowledge about karmic astrology before you can come with a contra argument about empty houses.[/B]
Yes I understood what you said and I disagree.Your Environment has a strong factor in how your astrology natal manifests.Yes I've read quite a bit about karmic astrology.This is an open forum I have a right to state my opinion just like you do CHEERS! IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted June 20, 2012 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
LMAO this made me laugh so hard Just because you have an empty 7th house doesn't deny marriage.Does an empty 6th house deny work?I think not we still need to eat and pay bills. Rosalind what did u mean by "don't mess with an empty 7H?" thanks Does it mean don't take a relationship seriously with someone who has an empty 7H? Just curious
There is a whole and complicated thing to say about empty houses and karmic planets. I tried to say a few words but you understand it all wrong. I was talking exclusively about Johnny Depp and Cloney cases and they burned karma.
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violet7887
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posted June 20, 2012 12:36 AM
Johnny Depp and Amber Heard have some pretty interesting/intense synastry.If it has anything to do with her coming along, I can see why. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted June 20, 2012 12:38 AM
I know about the burned karma thing you talked about. I'm just thinkin' that they have no karma to work through in the 7H, so no need for marriage and if they do marry it'll just end up in divorce because there's no karma to work through.
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Rosalind
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posted June 20, 2012 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Or does it mean don't expect marriage?
With someone who has an empty 7th or the same if you have an empty 7th? Hmmm
You need PLANETARY ENERGY in order to activate that house. Otherwise, yes, the thing is DENIED. For God's sake people, have you ever studied other's charts? Celebrities with empty houses? People with karmic planets in 7th house? Tesla had an empty 7th house. HE NEVER GOT MARRIED. Chopin had a karmic Pluto in his 7th house. He loved George Sand but she married someone else. Pluto is TRAGIC and extremist. Chopin chose to mourn his loss by never marry. Seriously now. I don't want to offence anyone but if you are unwilling to pay attention and to have an open mind you will never be able to learn and UNDERSTAND astrology. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted June 20, 2012 12:41 AM
Rosa it's just a question no need to get all fired up darling lol IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted June 20, 2012 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Rosa it's just a question no need to get all fired up darling lol
No fire up. I use to write some words in CAPITAL letters to be understood better. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted June 20, 2012 12:45 AM
Ok lol I like capitals haha just don't want u to think I'm not understanding or disagreeing when I'm actually asking out of honest curiosity...hugs IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted June 20, 2012 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Ok lol I like capitals haha just don't want u to think I'm not understanding or disagreeing when I'm actually asking out of honest curiosity...hugs
Its not about you. Its about everyone. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted June 20, 2012 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Its not about you. Its about everyone.
It's all goood baby baby lol I feel Venus going forward coz what's up with all the heat? lol  IP: Logged |
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