posted June 21, 2012 05:35 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
And once when same "just words" were directed at you,you wanted to leave. When something is truth and ******** is also smelly and comes from a bull. Anything else is matter of your perception and subjective impression
You point would be stronger without it. I remember time when you were very relatable and open for discussions.

Sure,we learn astrology here,but also have certain degree of knowledge. The articles that are meant to novices are specially selected and are in school and beginners subfofum.

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In addition to that, I'd also say that people approach astrology differently, and this is OK. It's not a threat if someone disagrees with you about astrology. Doesn't make them (or you) bad or stupid or clueless. It doesn't make someone a bad astrologer if they are more interested in some parts of astrology than others. Doesn't mean that they are unintelligent; just that different things stand out to them/interest them.

posted June 21, 2012 05:38 AM            

I think that astrology is filled with lots of debate - whole house vs placidus, Composite vs Davison, 4th and 10th house equalling mother vs father, etc. etc. I could give more examples, but sometimes we learn through debate and there are many aspects of astrology which people wholeheartedly disagree over.

posted June 21, 2012 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Rosalind,

I think that astrology is filled with lots of debate - whole house vs placidus, Composite vs Davison, 4th and 10th house equalling mother vs father, etc. etc. I could give more examples, but sometimes we learn through debate and there are many aspects of astrology which people wholeheartedly disagree over.

It's clear you are passionate about your views. Perhaps you can understand why others might feel the same way about their own without alienating them? I just thought I would just add the idea that maybe its okay for each of us to come to our own conclusions without being told that our own views about and experiences with astrology are wrong. That's one of the mysterious things about astrology - it's possible to come to the same conclusions sometimes from a differing perspective

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posted June 21, 2012 05:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sorcha:
[b]Rosalind,

I think that astrology is filled with lots of debate - whole house vs placidus, Composite vs Davison, 4th and 10th house equalling mother vs father, etc. etc. I could give more examples, but sometimes we learn through debate and there are many aspects of astrology which people wholeheartedly disagree over.

It's clear you are passionate about your views. Perhaps you can understand why others might feel the same way about their own without alienating them? I just thought I would just add the idea that maybe its okay for each of us to come to our own conclusions without being told that our own views about and experiences with astrology are wrong. That's one of the mysterious things about astrology - it's possible to come to the same conclusions sometimes from a differing perspective

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And this would be a perfect example of arguing your point/not respecting other's views versus a healthy debate. And there *are* other views on astrology, otherwise there would probably just be one big book and this forum would have no purpose.

posted June 21, 2012 05:54 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
Having birth time helps give a lot of important details, but you can still have a lot of information without one.

I guess that I look at it like being a partly cloudy day. You won't see the whole sky, but you'll see enough of the sky to get a general idea of what it looks like.

The biggest thing that you would miss would be the ascendant and house placements without having a birth time, and that is inconvenient, but you'd still have most of your planet placements. Occasionally, you might not (if a planet changed signs that day), but normally, you'd have them. At the very least, you'd be able to narrow it down to two possibilities and would still have other placements. So, while you couldn't interpret the entire chart without a birth time, you could at least look at parts of it, so it wouldn't be a total loss. It would be a partial loss. Like having hearing loss or sight loss, but without being completely blind or completely deaf.

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posted June 21, 2012 06:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
And this would be a perfect example of arguing your point/not respecting other's views versus a healthy debate. And there *are* other views on astrology, otherwise there would probably just be one big book and this forum would have no purpose.

In any case, all the best to you.

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posted June 21, 2012 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Rosalind, everyone is entitled to their opinion and take on things here; you can strongly disagree, but I still expect you to be respectful. You can't call into question another person's beliefs, and saying those beliefs are BS is unnaceptable. I respect your passion for and skills with Astrology, but you have to tone down in your delivery or you will lose your audience no matter how good you are.

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