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redshift
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posted July 05, 2012 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The date yourself thread made me think: I wouldn't want to date myself, but I think I would make a great man.

Are there major aspects of your chart you think would make you better as the opposite sex?

As a heterosexual lady with Mars in Aries in the 3rd house, I find it can be tough to fit the receiving role in male female relationships. I envy men and their ability to hunt and capture and just be direct and full-on (scorp sun intensity speaking also)! I think my Mars and Sun could shine more as a Man and that chicks would dig me

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aquaguy91
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posted July 05, 2012 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
trust me ,not as easy as it looks, as a man i personally think women have the advantage because they do the choosing and rejecting. this is coming from a man who has mars in gemini in the third.

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ail221
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posted July 05, 2012 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I honestly think I would make a great guy as well just based on my Venus in Gemini, Mars in Taurus trine Uranus and Neptune, and Mercury in Leo.
I still think its harder being heterosexual woman even in this day and age for various reasons.

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posted July 05, 2012 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by redshift:
The date yourself thread made me think: I wouldn't want to date myself, but I think I would make a great man.

Are there major aspects of your chart you think would make you better as the opposite sex?

As a heterosexual lady with Mars in Aries in the 3rd house, I find it can be tough to fit the receiving role in male female relationships. I envy men and their ability to hunt and capture and just be direct and full-on (scorp sun intensity speaking also)! I think my Mars and Sun could shine more as a Man and that chicks would dig me


Lol! I have Aries Mars in the 3rd too and think I would have been a total stud as a dude haha.

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posted July 05, 2012 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
trust me ,not as easy as it looks, as a man i personally think women have the advantage because they do the choosing and rejecting. this is coming from a man who has mars in gemini in the third.

Try a bikini wax every 2-3 weeks, you'll grow out of it
Women get rejected a lot too. The world's internet forums are FILLED with women sobbing over lost/unrequited love.

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ail221
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posted July 05, 2012 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Try a bikini wax every 2-3 weeks, you'll grow out of it
Women get rejected a lot too. The world's internet forums are FILLED with women sobbing over lost/unrequited love.

Or the same forums where women are sobbing over not making the first move because its not the girl's job to do so. [Sarcasm]

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aquaguy91
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posted July 05, 2012 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Or the same forums where women are sobbing over not making the first move because its not the girl's job to do so. [Sarcasm]

i really dont see a problem with women making the first move, some have made the first move on me, i didnt mind.

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posted July 05, 2012 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Try a bikini wax every 2-3 weeks, you'll grow out of it
Women get rejected a lot too. The world's internet forums are FILLED with women sobbing over lost/unrequited love.

i know that women get rejected, i'm speaking in the context of the man approaching the woman.

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Hera
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posted July 05, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i know that women get rejected, i'm speaking in the context of the man approaching the woman.

I think the whole thing with the gender roles has changed a lot. Anybody who makes the first move puts himself/herself on the line and risks rejection. Happened to me too.

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posted July 05, 2012 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Or the same forums where women are sobbing over not making the first move because its not the girl's job to do so. [Sarcasm]

Eh.. says who re not being their job. Most men actually love for us to make the first move.

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posted July 05, 2012 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I think the whole thing with the gender roles has changed a lot. Anybody who makes the first move puts himself/herself on the line and risks rejection. Happened to me too.

yea i agree 100% , but cant we agree that most of the time making the first move falls on the man? i'm not saying it has to be that way, i'm all for a girl coming up to me , i wouldnt mind. I just think alot of women still expect the guy to make the move

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posted July 05, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
yea i agree 100% , but cant we agree that most of the time making the first move falls on the man? i'm not saying it has to be that way, i'm all for a girl coming up to me , i wouldnt mind. I just think alot of women still expect the guy to make the move

I guess it depends. Can only speak for myself here. I like alphas so yeah. Sometimes though the attraction is so strong that I wouldn't want to risk letting the guy slip through my fingers so I make the first move. Ofc I'm shy Cap rising so probably with a decent pretext handy haha

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posted July 05, 2012 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I guess it depends. Can only speak for myself here. I like alphas so yeah. Sometimes though the attraction is so strong that I wouldn't want to risk letting the guy slip through my fingers so I make the first move. Ofc I'm shy Cap rising so probably with a decent pretext handy haha

haha not sure approaching girls makes a guy an alpha

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posted July 05, 2012 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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haha not sure approaching girls makes a guy an alpha

I know but they at least have to pretend to be confident which looks like alpha haha.

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posted July 05, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know but they at least have to pretend to be confident which looks like alpha haha.

oh there's that magic word! lmao everyone tells me to be confident, but its easier said than done, i'm not gonna lie i'm not confident when it comes to talking to women because i have little success and alot of bad experiences. the guys that are confident have success and get women so naturally they are going to be confident. i have had women call me ugly to my face and lots of other insults, just because i tried to ask them out or strike up a conversation, im curious as to how women could expect me to be confident when so many of her fellow women folk have so effectively ripped all my ego to shreds and then set it on fire.

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Hera
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posted July 05, 2012 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Believe me, I understand.. I don't know, I faked it for a while (confidence) and at some point grew into it or got better at faking idk. I've been called super nasty things to my face.. starting with daddy dearest and then a few other ppl as well.
Thing is, you're not gonna get there if you're still bitter with us. I know, you have to live out your anger and please do. It was their opinion, they have a right to an opinion, but it is theirs, give it back to them. It does not belong to you. Please form a different opinion about yourself, one that belongs strictly to you.
I also have stickies in my bathroom saying I love myself.. those still ain't working haha.
Wanna start a support group? lol

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posted July 05, 2012 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Believe me, I understand.. I don't know, I faked it for a while (confidence) and at some point grew into it or got better at faking idk. I've been called super nasty things to my face.. starting with daddy dearest and then a few other ppl as well.
Thing is, you're not gonna get there if you're still bitter with us. I know, you have to live out your anger and please do. It was their opinion, they have a right to an opinion, but it is theirs, give it back to them. It does not belong to you. Please form a different opinion about yourself, one that belongs strictly to you.
I also have stickies in my bathroom saying I love myself.. those still ain't working haha.
Wanna start a support group? lol

are you mocking me?

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posted July 05, 2012 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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are you mocking me?

No.. Why on earth would I mock you? I consider you my friend.

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posted July 05, 2012 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Believe me, I understand.. I don't know, I faked it for a while (confidence) and at some point grew into it or got better at faking idk. I've been called super nasty things to my face.. starting with daddy dearest and then a few other ppl as well.
Thing is, you're not gonna get there if you're still bitter with us. I know, you have to live out your anger and please do. It was their opinion, they have a right to an opinion, but it is theirs, give it back to them. It does not belong to you. Please form a different opinion about yourself, one that belongs strictly to you.
I also have stickies in my bathroom saying I love myself.. those still ain't working haha.
Wanna start a support group? lol

also i dont have a bad opinion of myself, lol like you said its theirs. I know i've seen women with guys alot worse than me.

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posted July 05, 2012 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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also i dont have a bad opinion of myself, lol like you said its theirs. I know i've seen women with guys alot worse than me.

I think it's more that they sense your bitterness towards us. Your Moon and Venus are in hard asp to Pluto. This is the behavior you anticipate out of women, which is a bit self defeating. But the bitterness thing I think might put them off and want to behave exactly like you think they will. As you know, I have Mars opp Pluto, also Sun parallel Pluto acting like a mild conjunction.
I used to hate men, God knows after the Bull if a dude asked me out I might have even slapped him. I guess at some point I realized it happens and that's life, I've hurt a few poor souls myself, but the vicious circle has to end at some point and better end it with you.
Not that I don't have some issues left, but I actually meant what I wrote here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/003409.html

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posted July 05, 2012 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera
I completely agree.
Change is internal first, external next.
It's hard to change while the circumstances are seemingly unfair and negative, but that's the way to go; if you want to change the world around you, start by changing yourself and the way you see things.
I know it's easier said than done, I have terrible trust issues when it comes to men, myself. I'm trying to work on it..


On topic, I'm pretty sure I'd make a cool guy. I have a Scorpio stellium and a charming Libra Venus which would make me very popular with the girls..

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posted July 05, 2012 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ABSOLUTELY MY MOON IN SAGITTARIUS. (!)
An independent sign in the realm of emotions? That just tells you something.

I'm a mars scorpio & sn Aries. I tend to be the leader,initiator in most relations. Kind of frustrating at times, but excellent for the guy role.

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posted July 05, 2012 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

I really don't know how to answer this question haha

I'm ok either way.. I think I'd make a good guy as well
Although women might complain about me being evasive.

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posted July 05, 2012 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the first move and who makes it - Not everyone is working on - social norms there.
I'm doing what feels natural deep down.. and I'm just passive - naturally.

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I made a sweetpeas thread on this: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000764.html

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posted July 05, 2012 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i really dont see a problem with women making the first move, some have made the first move on me, i didnt mind.

Some women do and some don't but I come across a lot more women bemoaning waiting for a guy to make the first move. While there are some men who hate when a woman makes the first move. No one wants to be rejected essentially. -Shrug

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