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Belage
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posted July 10, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
You're coming across quite aggressive yourself, Belage

You're entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing.

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posted July 10, 2012 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I personally know three men who are extremly violent towards women, two have mars/saturn/moon and the third has mars/pluto/moon. Another man who is an admited woman hater, but not particularly violent has moon conjunct saturn with pluto squaring. I guess in his case the lack of the mars element left out most of the physical violence.

To add to your *marvelous* insight here, I knew a male specimen (nay, can't call him a man) with Moon/Pluto/Saturn tsq who held firm beliefs in favor of the subjugation of women.

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posted July 10, 2012 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I think its more of an afflicted moon in a mans chart then venus, but thats just my observations.
Men with the moon conj/opp/square mars, pluto, or saturn can sometimes be very abusive and/or hateful towards women. But whats worse is when two of the three are involved in a t square with the moon. Yikes!
I personally know three men who are extremly violent towards women, two have mars/saturn/moon and the third has mars/pluto/moon. Another man who is an admited woman hater, but not particularly violent has moon conjunct saturn with pluto squaring. I guess in his case the lack of the mars element left out most of the physical violence.

Mine is apex of t-square. Pluto and Venus are my 2 strongest planets as well. And they're all conjunct and the ruler of the angles.

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aquaguy91
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posted July 10, 2012 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe my moon trine to neptune saves me.

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posted July 10, 2012 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps, Example Mel Gibson'S Moon is square BML Lilith, Moon Sesquiquadrature Venus, Venus Qunicux Saturn & Eros.

Rush limbaugh has Moon square Mercury and Chiron, Moon opposite Saturn, Moon Biquintile Pluto, Moon semi-square Venus, and Venus inconjnuct Uranus.

Charlie Sheen
Moon square Chiron, Moon semi square Mars, Venus Biquintile Saturn, Venus inconjunct Chiron.

Silvio Berlusconi - Just in case you don't know who he is. This guy has publicly humiliated his wife several times through his infidelity and gives women he thinks are hot jobs in public office, even if they have no idea what they're supposed to be doing. He also thinks that an attractive secretarial pool should be enough to entice foreign investors: "Another reason to invest in Italy is that we have beautiful secretaries ... superb girls."

Moon Sesquiquadrature Pluto, Venus Sesquiquadrature Saturn, Venus Semi-square Jupiter & Neptune, Venus Square Pluto.

Perhaps the accumulation of minor aspects is a sign of misogyny.

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posted July 10, 2012 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL my Moon and Venus are train wrecks -

Venus Scorpio 29 degrees, 8th House:
In a wonky degree
In detriment sign
In detriment sign ruled house
makes only 2 aspects:
square Saturn
quincunx Chiron

Moon Virgo 11 degrees, 6th House:
In a cadent house
square Sun
square Neptune
sextile Uranus (not a hard aspect, but Uranus and the Moon get weird when they are left alone in a room together).

I love women, in fact when I was a kid I idolized Wonder Woman (I still do, come to think of it). I generally relate much easier with women than men and the majority of my friends have been women throughout my life.

It's possible having Moon trine MC helps. It is also possible having Sun/Neptune in Sag with Jupiter in Cancer helps. Over all though, I have some pretty wonky Venus and Moon situations and I'm a fan of the ladies.

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posted July 11, 2012 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:

Well I've reasoned out I am the type 3 in this and my ideal would be a type 4.
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/3and4.asp

Ideal? Really?

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posted July 11, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
LOL my Moon and Venus are train wrecks -

Venus Scorpio 29 degrees, 8th House:
In a wonky degree
In detriment sign
In detriment sign ruled house
makes only 2 aspects:
square Saturn
quincunx Chiron

Moon Virgo 11 degrees, 6th House:
In a cadent house
square Sun
square Neptune
sextile Uranus (not a hard aspect, but Uranus and the Moon get weird when they are left alone in a room together).

I love women, in fact when I was a kid I idolized Wonder Woman (I still do, come to think of it). I generally relate much easier with women than men and the majority of my friends have been women throughout my life.

It's possible having Moon trine MC helps. It is also possible having Sun/Neptune in Sag with Jupiter in Cancer helps. Over all though, I have some pretty wonky Venus and Moon situations and I'm a fan of the ladies.



haha but arent you gay? that explains it

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posted July 11, 2012 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
Ideal? Really?

Lol Yesh until I found out I was more of an 8. Still haven't read what the best match for that would be.. But on a secondary level yes a 4.

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posted July 11, 2012 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Xiiro:
haha but arent you gay? that explains it

I don't dislike women any more than the next guy, just because I am not romantically inclined toward their gender. I have no desire to dominate, subdue, or abuse women, which seemed to be more of what the original post was pointing toward.

Do you think afflicted Moon/Venus in heterosexual men can be a factor in guys who are attracted to the idea of femininity, while harboring a desire to harm it?

Along the same lines, do women (heterosexual or otherwise) with afflicted Moon/Venus have abusive inclinations toward other women?

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posted July 11, 2012 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpy_oh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I don't dislike women any more than the next guy, just because I am not romantically inclined toward their gender. I have no desire to dominate, subdue, or abuse women, which seemed to be more of what the original post was pointing toward.

Do you think afflicted Moon/Venus in heterosexual men can be a factor in guys who are attracted to the idea of femininity, while harboring a desire to harm it?

Along the same lines, do women (heterosexual or otherwise) with afflicted Moon/Venus have abusive inclinations toward other women?


what an interesting question. i would like to see a thread on that.

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Hera
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posted July 11, 2012 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
Lol Yesh until I found out I was more of an 8. Still haven't read what the best match for that would be.. But on a secondary level yes a 4.

If you not only say yesh like Sean Connery but also have his hairy chest, I'll think about it. Lol, so are 3s best matches for 4s? I don't think I like 3s much..

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posted July 11, 2012 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I don't dislike women any more than the next guy, just because I am not romantically inclined toward their gender. I have no desire to dominate, subdue, or abuse women, which seemed to be more of what the original post was pointing toward.

Do you think afflicted Moon/Venus in heterosexual men can be a factor in guys who are attracted to the idea of femininity, while harboring a desire to harm it?

Along the same lines, do women (heterosexual or otherwise) with afflicted Moon/Venus have abusive inclinations toward other women?


I can be critical about them. And God help any who decides to become my rival But I have Venus unaspected and Moon very well aspected.

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posted July 11, 2012 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
If you not only say yesh like Sean Connery but also have his hairy chest, I'll think about it. Lol, so are 3s best matches for 4s? I don't think I like 3s much..

Unfortunately I am not THAT hairy!

I think it's the other way around but not really interchangeable lol!

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posted July 11, 2012 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
Unfortunately I am not THAT hairy!

I think it's the other way around but not really interchangeable lol!


Aww poor 3s! Well lucky you're really an 8. Fits you, I think.

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posted July 11, 2012 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Silvio Berlusconi - Just in case you don't know who he is. This guy has publicly humiliated his wife several times through his infidelity and gives women he thinks are hot jobs in public office, even if they have no idea what they're supposed to be doing. He also thinks that an attractive secretarial pool should be enough to entice foreign investors: "Another reason to invest in Italy is that we have beautiful secretaries ... superb girls."

Moon Sesquiquadrature Pluto, Venus Sesquiquadrature Saturn, Venus Semi-square Jupiter & Neptune, Venus Square Pluto.

Perhaps the accumulation of minor aspects is a sign of misogyny.


Silvio is not a misogynist.

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posted July 11, 2012 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoGuy87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart is almost identical to Sean Connery's, so therefore i must like slapping woman...if it merits it!

Also am Scottish born lol.

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posted July 11, 2012 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Xiiro:
I don't dislike women any more than the next guy, just because I am not romantically inclined toward their gender. I have no desire to dominate, subdue, or abuse women, which seemed to be more of what the original post was pointing toward.

Do you think afflicted Moon/Venus in heterosexual men can be a factor in guys who are attracted to the idea of femininity, while harboring a desire to harm it?

Along the same lines, do women (heterosexual or otherwise) with afflicted Moon/Venus have abusive inclinations toward other women? [/QUOTElol think you misunderstood me. i meant gay guys and women get,along very well from what i have seen.

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posted July 11, 2012 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake, yes that *lovely* moon/pluto/saturn man you speak of sounds just like the one I know, he openly says that men are better than women and that women should be "controlled" by their men. Lmfao!

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posted July 11, 2012 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I have moon square Venus...might be out of orb, though. I don't feel abusive toward women at all. I get along great with them.

If someone, male or female, p*sses me off, I will tell them. I actually do this more as a "courtesy" so we can get the tension out in the open and hopefully get it resolved.

Sometimes I cannot resolve things. Then I just wish the person well and get on with life. Pisces moon---> not wanting any hate in me.


I'm the same about the hate thing ^_^ Moon-Neptune exact conjunction. But Aries planets put up a fight if someone is asking for one..

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posted July 11, 2012 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll just leave this here for Aquaguy:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Nice_guy_syndrome

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posted July 11, 2012 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun/moon in taurus, sextile Mars, + Mars/Saturn square Pluto. Made a good show of covering up his bitterness; claimed to love women, but then said all sorts of things that I've heard from misogynists. Messed with my head, too, the @sshole.

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aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
I'll just leave this here for Aquaguy:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Nice_guy_syndrome

gee thanks

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aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ amowls,so yea that article totally twists the whole issue.but nice dig at me

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