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Topic: men with afflicted venus or moons being woman haters?
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted July 11, 2012 02:19 PM
  
Aquaguy,I know a couple of heterosexual guys who can't stand women and constantly make fun of women. They are also all married. Oh, don't get me wrong. They desire women to release their masculine heterosexual energy, but they don't have any affection for women. A couple of them have had two or three wives lol. I have no idea whether they are faithful to their spouses and have no desire to find out. I know one guy has a rather questionable and expensive taste for "professionals." I have no idea about their astrological aspects. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted July 11, 2012 02:22 PM
Who hates women? That's messed up... For me I adore women 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byd4Nt1o5KE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 02:24 PM
well ariesdragon, apparently i do because i have an afflicted venus and moon. but its news to me  IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Aquaguy,I know a couple of heterosexual guys who can't stand women and constantly make fun of women. They are also all married. Oh, don't get me wrong. They desire women to release their masculine heterosexual energy, but they don't have any affection for women. A couple of them have had two or three wives lol. I have no idea whether they are faithful to their spouses and have no desire to find out. I know one guy has a rather questionable and expensive taste for "professionals." I have no idea about their astrological aspects.
and thats exactly my point. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted July 11, 2012 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
well ariesdragon, apparently i do because i have an afflicted venus and moon. but its news to me
Nope That's absurd  IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Nope That's absurd
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12thhouser
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posted July 11, 2012 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
You're entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure. No problem. That's what this forum is all about--sharing! And aquaguy91, you never came across to me as being negative toward women. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
My pleasure. No problem. That's what this forum is all about--sharing!And aquaguy91, you never came across to me as being negative toward women.
exactly. i dont think i am either. just sharing my experiences. IP: Logged |
Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 11, 2012 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
maybe my moon trine to neptune saves me.
Indeed, it will add a very romantic, loving and tolerant quality to your moon, and attitude toward women in general. If the trine orb is greater than the orb for the other challenging aspects, you will feel the challenging aspects more, but you will still feel some of the trine qualities. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 11, 2012 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by amowls**:
I'll just leave this here for Aquaguy:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Nice_guy_syndrome
Interesting read. It actually got me to think that the Nice Guy syndrome is no different than the Nice Girl syndrome. Very often, a woman is very nice to men, in the hope that they will reward them with their love. Again, the general idea seems to be that fake niceness, meaning niceness with undercurrents of anger or insecurity does not bring about the desired results for either men or women. Be yourself, which means that sometimes, you're just not going to come across as nice, unless you're some kind of a saint, and y'all know, nobody falls in love with saints. Lol.
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L0veLess
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posted July 11, 2012 07:12 PM
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RedScorp
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posted July 11, 2012 08:24 PM
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Owhat house is your moon in? i notice guys with first house moon tend to have an easy time with women
Omg srory for the late reply, but I have a fifth house moon! First, fifth...both are fire houses, hmmm?? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
Interesting read.It actually got me to think that the Nice Guy syndrome is no different than the Nice Girl syndrome. Very often, a woman is very nice to men, in the hope that they will reward them with their love. Again, the general idea seems to be that fake niceness, meaning niceness with undercurrents of anger or insecurity does not bring about the desired results for either men or women. Be yourself, which means that sometimes, you're just not going to come across as nice, unless you're some kind of a saint, and y'all know, nobody falls in love with saints. Lol.
see but thats the thing, i'm not a fake nice and i dont compromise who who i am, i also speak my mind. so that whole theory just doesnt describe me.but i always try to treat everybody with respect unless they insist upon disrespecting me.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted July 11, 2012 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Omg srory for the late reply, but I have a fifth house moon! First, fifth...both are fire houses, hmmm??
fifth house seems like a good place for the moon. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted July 11, 2012 09:30 PM
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fifth house seems like a good place for the moon.
A love of wining, dining, and expression. IP: Logged |
whaaat
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Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 18, 2014 05:21 AM
I know this topic is ancient but I feel like sharing my two cents anyway; You want the wrong women, and the women you want are also attracted to the wrong men. Neither you nor said women are willing to settle for someone in your own league, because to do that you'll have to give yourself a sober look and realize that you really don't like yourself, and consequently don't like available women because they're just like you.
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Lonake
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posted July 18, 2014 05:42 AM
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Mercurian Intellect
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Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 18, 2014 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by amowls**:
I'll just leave this here for Aquaguy:
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Nice_guy_syndrome
"The terms Nice Guy™ and nice guy syndrome are used to describe men who view themselves as prototypical "nice guys," but whose "nice deeds" are in reality only motivated by attempts to passively please women into a relationship and/or sex." That article isn't entirely true (didn't read the whole article, btw) because I'm a nice guy that doesn't care about sex. That's not of importance of me. But if that was what she wanted, I would be more than happy to partake in sex, because I would enjoy it as well. Of course I like physical/sexual pleasure, but what I mean is that it's not at all my focus, and neither should it be her's. What I want is a relationship that's built upon deep love, intensity and an intellectual connection. Pretty much a union of the souls, but not really because I don't believe in souls, but you know what I mean, lol. It's funny how hated even "nice guys" are by people in general in that it even has a trademark (TM) to make us feel even worse as it is. Because they all assume we're not really nice and that it is a cover up just to get sex... yup, you got us 
God forbid wee see the true essence of a relationship. A relationship is most importantly about loving each other, not necessarily about "fun". Fun is something extra to make the relationship, well, more fun and exciting. Because apparently, true love and the meeting of the minds between two people isn't beautiful enough to be appreciative of. People have to look and focus for people that are "fun"... yeah, in their own sense of it. People find "fun" in different things. But true love and a deep understanding of each other should be the cornerstone of the relationship, not "fun", as apparently, opposed to popular belief. I get bored of people super fast. In fact, there isn't really anyone that's fun to me. Everyone seems too similar to me.
Does that mean I could care less about a romantic relationship or just give up on it because no one is fun to me? No, because it's about love, not "fun". Because if that (fun) was the case, I should hope for an alien female, because Humans are too boring for me  IP: Logged |
amelia28
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From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 18, 2014 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by awakemer:
my brother has really good aspects to moon and venus but he is an abuser..i think its all his sag planets to be honest. (and his moon in scorpio)
Can you please post his chart and let us analize it. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted July 18, 2014 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
so this is something i keep finding on the internet on astrology sites, but is it true? i keep reading that us men with afflicted moons or venus are abusers and cheaters. as you all know i have both, but i'm not an abuser, and not a cheater ,nor do i hate women. the moon and venus in a man's chart represent women he meets,so wouldnt that mean he would meet or be drawn to nasty women? thats been my experience. i've also read women with afflicted mars have a tendency to meet or be drawn to bad men. so if we interprate afflicted mars in a womans charts as her having bad experiences with men, shouldnt we also interprate an afflicted venus as someone who has bad experiences with women.
My personal experience is that guys with sun square moon and venus square mars and uranus can be abusive although not necessarily severely or regularly nor does it mean they are bad guys but if Transit pluto activates that sun square moon for example their issues with women will come to the surface and they will see a side to themselves that they have not seeing before or were aware off at all that they had. Add:
Also check for violent degrees when looking at this aspects and see if it is aspecting the DC/AC.
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amelia28
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posted July 18, 2014 12:32 PM
Johari's window is composed of four categories and one of them is things that are hidden to ourselves but not to others, the other is things others see in us but we don't see in ourselves, another is things you see in yourself and others see in you as well and the last is things you don't see in yourself nor others see in yourself but if the right transit happens this is brought to light so person can confront this issues and grow from it.IP: Logged |
starrynight
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posted July 18, 2014 01:38 PM
A little bit of an opposite example but here's two guys who are most understanding, feminist in a good way, full of respect, etc, etcGuy 1:
Moon trine Venus
Moon has zero harsh aspects
Moon sextile Mars
Venus square Neptune Guy 2:
Aries Moon (yeah despite stuff said here)
Moon has zero harsh aspects
Moon widely trine Sun
Moon trine Jupiter
Venus square Jupiter Two cases do not a statistics make, but it's interesting to see that both guys have natal Moons with several trines and sextiles to personal planets and no harsh aspects whatsoever, while the same can't be said about Venus. IP: Logged |
7Grace
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Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 19, 2014 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
so this is something i keep finding on the internet on astrology sites, but is it true? i keep reading that us men with afflicted moons or venus are abusers and cheaters. as you all know i have both, but i'm not an abuser, and not a cheater ,nor do i hate women. the moon and venus in a man's chart represent women he meets,so wouldnt that mean he would meet or be drawn to nasty women? thats been my experience. i've also read women with afflicted mars have a tendency to meet or be drawn to bad men. so if we interprate afflicted mars in a womans charts as her having bad experiences with men, shouldnt we also interprate an afflicted venus as someone who has bad experiences with women.
hi aquaguy91 Moon square Venus in a mans chart from what I've read may incline: A man to not be attracted to the women they (like/are comfortable with) -while- not being (comfortable with/like) the women they're attracted to. It's claimed either to learn to be attracted to the women you're comfortable with -or- learn to (like/be comfortable with) the women you're attracted to. But hey no worries, I'm sure you'll meet someone that can vibe both energies for you. It's like needing a woman to be a virgin while simultaneously being your whor*. As you wrote:
so wouldnt that mean he would meet or be drawn to nasty women? thats been my experience.
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DeepFreeze
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posted July 19, 2014 01:49 AM
I have both, but no hate. IP: Logged |
7Grace
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posted July 19, 2014 02:09 AM
aquaguy91Possibly somewhere in your youth, a woman of influence over you, didn't value the things you found beautiful. So you came to believe those things were wrong/nasty/worthless, but still attracted. By no means am I saying a terrible women confused you maliciously. She just saw beauty differently than you. People can't see through your eyes, anymore than you can see through theirs. It's no mistake, what you're attracted to is valuable and worthy. 
Then again, I may be off on a tangent. I presumed you had a Moon/Venus affliction. With a re-read, it sounds like Moon is afflicted, but not by Venus. Venus is afflicted, but not by Moon. These 2 posts solely pertain to Moon/Venus. I apologize, I'm not one of the you all, that know your chart.
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