posted July 13, 2012 08:04 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Perhaps its just me, but I would just say so like it is. If it ain't happenning, then I've made my peace and move on.

Usually, the feelings are mutual or obvious. Otherwise, I wouldn't even bother.

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posted July 13, 2012 10:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I remember though one time I DID confess.
It actually was in elementary school, and it probably was my first crush I`ve ever had. I even recall his name. Christian, a blonde blueeyed boy.
I was having a crush on him forever - well several weeks at least (which for a 9 year old girl IS like forever).
A "friend" told me he would like me and that I should tell him about my feelings.
(I should have known she was laying a trap, she was always trying to hurt me with something, either physically or like this time, emotionally).

Well, I did. I told him. Maybe I shouldn`t have said: I love you. But still, what do you know at that age?
Sometimes I can still hear him laugh.

The next time I had a real bad crush on someone; coincidentally a boy (blonde, green eyes) I knew from elementary school, though my crush-phase was MUCH later.
another girl, who noticed my feelings for him, would suddenly develop a strong interest in him and not much later got togehter with him just to dumb him shortly afterwards. It was never really about him, I guess, it was more to hurt me. And even though I definitely had my revenge - on a different level and I am not proud of it; I scared her out of her wits with a little bit of "esoteric touch"-, it DID hurt me.
The guy was a git though.

Then a little bit later, another crush (this time a guy with brown hair and brown eyes), I never really told him, and my best friend, who of course knew about it, didn`t have anything better to do than making out with him in front of my eyes. (the thing I can`t believe is how I STILL considered her my friend after this!).

So I guess it is quite easy to see WHY I want my crushes to be far away and in the distance.
Though recalling all this, methinks, I should rather think more deeply about the female "friends" I am gathering around me. lol

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What's Venus/Moon doing in your chart? So many bad girls around you.

What's «esoteric touch»?? wanna knoow,tell me

posted July 13, 2012 01:18 PM            

Right now, a couple of years after that experience, I'm more likely to get him alone by asking him to hang out with me for a day, then if it feels good I'll kiss him or take his hand or whatever feels appropriate for the situation. No misunderstandings there!!

posted July 14, 2012 06:34 AM            

I spend hours infr0nt of the mirror, dressing up. I have to s0mehow stand out fr0m the crowd. I s0metimes tell the guy rand0mly that I like him. Like "dude, guess who I have a crush on. " "you!". I 0nce sent a flying kiss to my high school crush on the grounds. It hit him like a thunderbolt. I also express feelings through n0tes and short letters. Try keeping them witty and funny. It's always s0mething different that I do. My 1st bf, I sent 2 guys with a cart0n of eggs to his place. There was a message on the eggs, asking him out. He called me up saying he had wanted to b0mb me with the eggs but changed his mind because he was craving omlette and the idea was so stupid that he had to go out with me.
I'm also learning to be a girl. I've been told that my approach's manly. My worst m0ment was when I borrowed a red rose, bent 0n my knees and asked this guy out for a dance. He to0k the rose and walked out on my face. My friend screwed me for the rose. -.-
My love life has always been public. I d0n't need to tell the guy, he kn0ws it before me telling him. Things d0n't stay in my st0mach. I'll spill to any0ne willing to lend me their ears. And then you kn0w how stories spreads.

posted July 14, 2012 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
What's Venus/Moon doing in your chart? So many bad girls around you.

What's «esoteric touch»?? wanna knoow,tell me

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Well, my Moon is in Aquarius in 2nd house, exactly quinkunx Saturn in cancer in 8th house - no other aspects, so it is unaspected from traditional perspective.

Venus is in Cap in 1st house, square MC in Libra and Pluto on that MC.
It is widely (5 degree) sextile Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd house and Uranus in Scorpio on the cusp of 11th house (actually Venus is on the exact midpoint of Jupiter/Uranus).

posted July 14, 2012 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, my Moon is in Aquarius in 2nd house, exactly quinkunx Saturn in cancer in 8th house - no other aspects, so it is unaspected from traditional perspective.

Venus is in Cap in 1st house, square MC in Libra and Pluto on that MC.
It is widely (5 degree) sextile Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd house and Uranus in Scorpio on the cusp of 11th house (actually Venus is on the exact midpoint of Jupiter/Uranus).

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I see,prominent Venus.
Visible Venus,actually = angular,or in H1,7,10. One of knowflakes,enchantress299,said how she feels like a projection screen when interacting with people,they being provoked by her venusian signature : So,I have been investigating this ever since,only expanding this idea to every prominent position Venus can have (and later on I included H8/12 Venus,but that's another story).
Women are reluctant to say that «other girls don't like me,ever» because it comes off like a ego trip. BUT,this is not fiction - there are women who indeed drive other women into all sorts of bad,repressed feelings that usually lead to passive-aggression.
You also have Pluto to make Venus undeniable and you a witch Old astro texts often say that women with Venus/Pluto are defying destiny with their «carnal existence» and that they ate often object of hate of other women.

As for the esoteric stuff - so,Neptune is not to be messed with,huh

posted July 14, 2012 09:48 AM            

very interesting points about prominent Venus.

I am certainly not someone who triggers jealousy in other woman, because I am attractive or something like that.

BUT I do tend to stand out like a "sore thumb" as I refuse to play these "social games". It is not that I really rebel against it, I just walk to my own tune.
So I am pretty much "different" and maybe hard to understand, especially of women or girls who are on the top of that social game.
I find that to be totally okay, if it makes them happy, why not? It is just not my "style".

I do not have many friends, but those I have, I share certain similiarities with in respect to goals in life, ethics etc. My friendships tend to be very long lasting and deep (and sometimes being very therapeuthic).

Oh and these friends seem to always have a similiar strong Pluto as I do have.

My best friend actually has Pluto conjunct her Mercury-Venus-Mars stellium in Libra in 5th house opposing Moon and squaring ASC.
Really, I am totally unplutonian measured against this.

Also my mum often told me when I was younger (though sometimes even now) that people sometimes are envious of me (we were talking in a workrelated context), because they are surprised how I can radiate so much confidence (well I do not feel it necessarily but I often seem more confident than I am feeling) and gain positive attention (usually on the 2nd glance), when I do not fit the social standards, of how women should be or behave.
I don`t know if that is true, but I deal best with people who are quite comfortable in their own skin and do not have to be validated by others all the time (we all need positive feeback, but there are some people who seem to DEPEND on it for deciding how to be, and that is something I can`t do and don`t really understand).

posted July 14, 2012 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Venus,

very interesting points about prominent Venus.

I am certainly not someone who triggers jealousy in other woman, because I am attractive or something like that.

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Oh,but you are (physical appearance aside) - we all know Venus can be hot body,but to be a goddess,you need more than that.

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BUT I do tend to stand out like a "sore thumb" as I refuse to play these "social games". It is not that I really rebel against it, I just walk to my own tune.
So I am pretty much "different" and maybe hard to understand, especially of women or girls who are on the top of that social game.
I find that to be totally okay, if it makes them happy, why not? It is just not my "style".

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Precisely this - no matter that symbolism Venus plays,in this case social (pleasantries) the energy is the same.
Yeah,there are people who are different but you never give them second thought,so no reaction from other people.
But,there are people who are provoked when see somebody different,subconsciously acknowledging the attractiveness,but offended by the fact you are different «Why won't she hang out/talk/be with me,Wtf she thinks she is,above me,AM I below her,etc»

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I do not have many friends, but those I have, I share certain similiarities with in respect to goals in life, ethics etc. My friendships tend to be very long lasting and deep (and sometimes being very therapeuthic).

Oh and these friends seem to always have a similiar strong Pluto as I do have.

My best friend actually has Pluto conjunct her Mercury-Venus-Mars stellium in Libra in 5th house opposing Moon and squaring ASC.
Really, I am totally unplutonian measured against this.

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I like to say true friends are equal
By you being plutonian,there is no room for intimidation,power play. It is more like power house saluting another power house.
Yes,therapeutic outcome is in top 5 Pluto hallmarks,therapeutic being cathartic.

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Also my mum often told me when I was younger (though sometimes even now) that people sometimes are envious of me (we were talking in a workrelated context), because they are surprised how I can radiate so much confidence (well I do not feel it necessarily but I often seem more confident than I am feeling) and gain positive attention (usually on the 2nd glance), when I do not fit the social standards, of how women should be or behave.
I don`t know if that is true, but I deal best with people who are quite comfortable in their own skin and do not have to be validated by others all the time (we all need positive feeback, but there are some people who seem to DEPEND on it for deciding how to be, and that is something I can`t do and don`t really understand).

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Well done,mom! This kind of parental advice is very important - most parents just pamper their kids,or overly criticize - what is crucial to just observe your kid,and see above it.

posted July 14, 2012 10:19 AM            

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Originally posted by freebrainstorms:
It has yet to happen but i'd probably say something like: "hey, so you know i love you right?"

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I think i m going to use this..

posted July 14, 2012 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:

The truth is I rarely tell them. The more intense I feel, the more I conceal. That's because when I'm in, I'm in. No half measures. And there's probably nothing I wouldn't do for them/with them, if it's not illegal, unethical or imposed on me. Why would I let them in on that, let them know they have such power over me? Gives a scary girl alert and I have yet to meet a man who doesn't find that overwhelming or intimidating and can play in my league. It needs to be earned, not given for free. So I guess I'll save it for when I do.

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Sweet..

posted July 14, 2012 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I see,prominent Venus.
Visible Venus,actually = angular,or in H1,7,10. One of knowflakes,enchantress299,said how she feels like a projection screen when interacting with people,they being provoked by her venusian signature : So,I have been investigating this ever since,only expanding this idea to every prominent position Venus can have (and later on I included H8/12 Venus,but that's another story).
Women are reluctant to say that «other girls don't like me,ever» because it comes off like a ego trip. BUT,this is not fiction - there are women who indeed drive other women into all sorts of bad,repressed feelings that usually lead to passive-aggression.
You also have Pluto to make Venus undeniable and you a witch Old astro texts often say that women with Venus/Pluto are defying destiny with their «carnal existence» and that they ate often object of hate of other women.

As for the esoteric stuff - so,Neptune is not to be messed with,huh

I am sorry this happened to you,yeah,you were young,but kid never forgets,and it is awful when "friends" act like this.

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posted July 14, 2012 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I was speaking about women,not men with strong Venus,so no idea why they are catty.

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posted July 14, 2012 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
haha mines on the ascendant squaring pluto. i wouldnt see it being any different for men or women.

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There is a difference,a man can't own Venus' power like a woman can

posted July 14, 2012 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
There is a difference,a man can't own Venus' power like a woman can

Any square to Venus in men's chart can point to specific issues regarding women.

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posted July 14, 2012 10:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Venus,

very interesting points about prominent Venus.

I am certainly not someone who triggers jealousy in other woman, because I am attractive or something like that.

BUT I do tend to stand out like a "sore thumb" as I refuse to play these "social games". It is not that I really rebel against it, I just walk to my own tune.
So I am pretty much "different" and maybe hard to understand, especially of women or girls who are on the top of that social game.
I find that to be totally okay, if it makes them happy, why not? It is just not my "style".

I do not have many friends, but those I have, I share certain similiarities with in respect to goals in life, ethics etc. My friendships tend to be very long lasting and deep (and sometimes being very therapeuthic).

Oh and these friends seem to always have a similiar strong Pluto as I do have.

My best friend actually has Pluto conjunct her Mercury-Venus-Mars stellium in Libra in 5th house opposing Moon and squaring ASC.
Really, I am totally unplutonian measured against this.

Also my mum often told me when I was younger (though sometimes even now) that people sometimes are envious of me (we were talking in a workrelated context), because they are surprised how I can radiate so much confidence (well I do not feel it necessarily but I often seem more confident than I am feeling) and gain positive attention (usually on the 2nd glance), when I do not fit the social standards, of how women should be or behave.
I don`t know if that is true, but I deal best with people who are quite comfortable in their own skin and do not have to be validated by others all the time (we all need positive feeback, but there are some people who seem to DEPEND on it for deciding how to be, and that is something I can`t do and don`t really understand).

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Wow...I can definitely relate to that. I have Venus in the 10th (conjunct Mercury). Venus squares Jupiter & Uranus conjunct, and its semi-square Mars & also Pluto (my chart ruler). But, I also have Moon opposite Pluto, which I've read is to blame for those kind of attitudes from people. I too am hesitant to make a statement like that about women not liking me (because for one its certainly not every single female, but it has happened so often) and whenever someone says something like that, there are plenty of women (usually lots) who will jump on whoever said it as if she instead said something like 'I'm so amazing...you all just cant stand it!' lol. But the fact of the matter is, you do tend to get along better with males, lots of times, than females. (no cattiness, no immediate 'I don't like you' reaction right upon meeting the person). There was an article about something like this recently, some woman (a journalist or writer - can't remember her name, Samantha something? I think) in England. She got criticized a lot. Also I remember another similar article about Megan Fox when she made a similar statement.

Anyway, don't want to divert too much from the topic. I don't think I do much. I may try to talk with them, be extra nice or something - I don't know. I don't think I go out of my way - I want them to chase me anyway, but whenever I do have a 'crush' everyone does seem to know somehow. Its never secret even though I don't think I'm doing anything to convey that. I guess I do tend to talk about them with trusted friends just because they're on my mind...so thats also a clue. But its never anything like 'oh I really like 'X'...he's this and that' I just tend to mention them, maybe I'm fishing for any other information others may have?!

I have Venus in Virgo and Mars in Cancer.

posted July 14, 2012 11:58 PM            

I express myself more with actions than words.