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posted September 10, 2013 11:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
People with Gemini placements accusing Pisces of being a liar is like pot calling the kettle black.

I never knew a gemini who lies. And i am surrounded by them including myself. They are usually honest to a persons face.

Pisces are delusional and the only liars i have ever known.

Pisces + Neptune = delusional freaks

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wonderingwoman
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posted September 10, 2013 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wonderingwoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
People with Gemini placements accusing Pisces of being a liar is like pot calling the kettle black.

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posted September 10, 2013 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So a girl i know lies about having cancer to get money from people. Makes up stories about her kids being sick who by the way are in foster care now.


My sisters brother in law lies to friends that hes in another country. They think hes traveling around the world and hes rich. He posts statuses on his facebook naming different countries hes in but hes just sitting on the couch watching tv. He even photoshops pictures of him and random women he finds online and makes it look like hes hugging them.

Another pisces i know lied to my mom that he was going to her home country just to get on her good side. Such a liar.


Oh and careful cuz pisces will screw a friends partner behind their back!


They are easy and gullible.


Sorry if this offends anyone but im a gemini and i dont lie

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted September 10, 2013 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too general. Any sign can lie.

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posted September 10, 2013 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
So a girl i know lies about having cancer to get money from people. Makes up stories about her kids being sick who by the way are in foster care now.


My sisters brother in law lies to friends that hes in another country. They think hes traveling around the world and hes rich. He posts statuses on his facebook naming different countries hes in but hes just sitting on the couch watching tv. He even photoshops pictures of him and random women he finds online and makes it look like hes hugging them.

Another pisces i know lied to my mom that he was going to her home country just to get on her good side. Such a liar.


Oh and careful cuz pisces will screw a friends partner behind their back!


They are easy and gullible.


Sorry if this offends anyone but im a gemini and i dont lie


Birds of a feather flock together.

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posted September 10, 2013 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Pisces guy has a Pisces merc, and doesn't make a habit out of lying, he's actually brutally honest most of the time. Though the few instances where he's told a little white lie or some "Guy lie" (for example, "No i wasn't checking her out!!" ) I can see right through him. He's never really fooled me into thinking anything. I think its funny when he tries to 'fool' me, or keep a secret lol. I'm a cap sun, cap merc.

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EmpressMendez
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posted September 11, 2013 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Too general. Any sign can lie.

I know many Geminis who are liars. My aunt being the main one.

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posted September 11, 2013 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
However Pisces never seem shy or scared just laid back or not very interested, probably in their own world.

You lean into your friends while chatting.


Just what I've noticed from pisces sun and mercs


The first part is true if I'm in a familiar group setting.. I flit from group to group or if it's a large group one convo I usually tune out until something catches my ear or somebody says something directly to me..

The leaning in while speaking part made me smile. I do it to everyone. It's like everything I have to say is a super important secret and only for the person/people I'm sharing it with haha

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posted December 05, 2015 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huge imagination = yes, and I don't get reality confused with it
Liar = No, would only lie for the greater good
Able to see through others lies = with ease

You should also know if and with what the Mercury is afflicted. Mine is supported and stabilized through aspects.

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posted December 06, 2015 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DayandNight21:
mercury opp neptune is as bad as merc in pisces
won't go into details but try working with someone with this aspect, huge ommisions and lies.

Yap. Try dealing with mercury opposite neptune.

But he has mercury conjunct mars, and mercury/mars trine pluto. So he was like, one time make a huge lie, another time he can be honest cutting people's heart (sag moon).

Well, people can lie generally, but dealing with mercury opposite neptune people must be careful and re-check with the reality/the truth. Someone should always remind them to tell the truth/the details, drag them into the earth so they can learn to be less delusional in illusions, or they will remain in their delusional lies to themself and to other people. Sometimes they can lost themself in there without knowing it can hurt people especially the close one. HARD WORK.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm it seems like the original poster was implying Mercury Pisces as pathological liars. Which we aren't lol.
I am a Pisces Sun Moon and Mercury and I don't lie. I might tell a white lie to avoid someone's feelings from being hurt - "No, that sweater doesn't make you look fat!" But that's the extent of it. I know a lot of other Pisces Suns are like this as well.

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posted December 06, 2015 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, when I first read thru this thread I was like, "meh whatever" but no. Not whatever.

Delusional freaks? Wow.

ANY sign can lie and I would be willing to bet that you could find a liar within each of the 12 signs.

People who buy into this garbage need their heads checked.

I have a Pisces Sun/Merc and my Mercury's combust. I HATE LIES. Hate them.
My BFF is an Aries with a Pisces Mercury and never once have I in 20 years found her out to be dishonest about anything.

Do I keep secrets? You bet your a$$ I do because a good majority of people are judgemental jerks so no, I don't care to bare my soul. But not speaking isn't lying and I would NEVER tell a lie when asked a direct question.

Do Pisces Mercury people lie? I'm sure some do. Are they the only liars of the Zodiac? Definitely not. And if Pisces Mercs are the only liars you know, you either don't know many people or you haven't caught the others yet. if you truly believe Pisces are the only liars of the zodiac YOU are the Delusional one.

9H Pisces Mercury conjunct Sun square Mars/Uranus in Sag.

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posted December 07, 2015 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a stupid thread.

I have Mercury in Pisces, sextile neptune & conjunct Saturn, (7th house).

When I was younger, I had a penchant for telling people what they wanted to hear (which I picked up from my mother, bless her) but I didn't mean it in a bad way. I was like, "I'll finish the assignment by myself!" or "I'll get it, just remind me?" without considering how I'd actually get it. I really wanted to help people but I often took on too much work to realistically or practically help them so I flopped and looked like a liar.

That's the essence of Pisces, OK? They mean well, they just have little clue of how to make those things a reality. Sometimes these thoughts don't cross us, "Is it practical? Can I actually do it? How would I?" etc. Pisces live in dreams, the idea, the kindness of the sentiment etc. And all this may not translate into an action. We make wonderful idealists, and the less mature Pisces will only dream.

I've long out grown making naive promises. I handle what I can and make sure to settle down the details or just keep my mouth shut.

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posted December 07, 2015 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok... So to all my Pisces Mercury "brothers from another mother" ...

What do you guys do when you are faced with day to day questions, from acquaintances... things like "how are you", "how was your day", "how was your weekend"...?
Or what do you do in random chit-chat situations with people (who are not close to you) and who ask you personal questions, e.g. about your love life...

Or... third scenario... What do you do when you feel someone is being pushy and trying to get you to do something you have no desire to do? e.g. Attend their event/party, whatever...

You don't lie or become highly evasive in such situations?

Because I commonly do!
And I don't even feel a tiny bit bad about it. I'm very happy in my lying ways. It makes me most comfortable!

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posted December 07, 2015 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When someone ask me, " How are you?" I often respond with." Been trying to find the answer to that question all my life.'How ARE you?
Which is the complete truth and confuses the F### outta people.

We must comprehend different types of lying, lying to deceive and then people who change what they believe on a daily or hourly basis and can't keep track of that when ask.
Like some of our politicians that completely forget they were recorded saying what they say they did not say,lol

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posted December 07, 2015 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph22922     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the thing most of you are missing here is that Pisces and other water signs base everything on FEELING. However they feel about something is what they believe is true. If a Mercury in Pisces realizes that someone really adores them and trusts them, they tend to try not to hurt the other person's feelings so they may tell white lies to protect someone from the truth because they care about them. Then next thing you know the Merc. Pisces is in over their head bc they don't realize the other person is putting so much weight on what they say. Then the Merc. Pisces doesn't know how to back out of it.

I've got Mercury in Pisces and I will admit I have a habit of doing this but to me I'm just making sure I'm taking care of someone's feelings. I can see how other people don't understand this. It's more a matter of not wanting to hurt other people, but not realizing that your way of doing that could still end up hurting someone if they see it as lying.

All that other stuff about making up whole stories of lies, I've never done that. People who do that are just crazy lol.

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posted December 08, 2015 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry did not read entire thread, just recent posts.

Asteroid LIE is an accurate indicator of a lier with tight conjunction to Mercury or Sun, most likely other aspects too. Much more accurate than Mercury placements or Mercury aspects alone. Asteroid LIE 26955

One case study with Lie conjunct Mercury the native had the medical condition where he lied and couldn't help it.

Here's a video, by the way, Ted Talk, about how everyone lies. Mercury Sag will find it hard to take

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posted December 08, 2015 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I'm sorry, I should have stated that better. She is not "brutally" honest. I meant, she will tell the truth even if there's a price to be paid for telling it. In other words, if a cop asks her if she was speeding, and she was, she will say YES.

She may bend the truth in order to spare someone's feelings. That's where the dishonesty comes in. She's aware that she does it and feels bad about doing even that much, but she feels like it's the lesser of two evils.

We've been friends since we were six, so we've gone over this whole thing several times.


I have found in my experience the "not hurting" theme in piscis-neptune heavy people. just a message to their compassionate bending of the thruth.

"dear companssianote lier, please dont spare me suffering through your compassionate lies. I can handle the truth. what I cannot handle is someone insulting my intelligence and my feelings by pretending or bending the truth. if you care for me, respect my right to hear what I need to hear, not what you think I am able to hear"

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posted December 08, 2015 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^I agree with the quote that nordicsoul wrote above. Every Pisces heavy person that I know lies because they don't like to face the hurtful or ugly truth. I'm Scorpio and 8th house heavy, so this concept is unnerving to me.

I can handle the truth, but I cannot stand being lied to about the most trivial information. I think it's worse to lie when there is no good reason to. There are circumstances when lying is understandable, but to lie when there are no real consequences of telling the truth is completely nonsensical.

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posted December 08, 2015 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Hmm it seems like the original poster was implying Mercury Pisces as pathological liars. Which we aren't lol.
I am a Pisces Sun Moon and Mercury and I don't lie. I might tell a white lie to avoid someone's feelings from being hurt - "No, that sweater doesn't make you look fat!" But that's the extent of it. I know a lot of other Pisces Suns are like this as well.

Polkadotstars, I'm sorry to call you out like this....but you recently posted an example of one of your "white lies" that was so unnecessary, that it seemed insane to me.

You said that a guy at a store thought you were someone else, and instead of telling him you weren't her you just played along and pretended to be her. Your reason was that you thought it would hurt his feelings to know that you were not the girl that he knew. I believe you said you didn't want to "break his heart". ??? That is really weird to me, because why would it hurt him to know that you weren't the girl? Wouldn't it be more hurtful to have a conversation with someone thinking you know them, only to find out later the person was lying/pretending to be someone else?

I think why scenarios like this get to me is that it makes no sense to me, and I truly cannot understand the motivation behind this type of lying. It's pointless. I've been told so many unnecessary lies by Pisceans, when there was no real benefit of lying versus telling the truth. When I read your story about pretending to be the girl, I knew you were a Pisces. This isn't a personal attack on you or other Pisces, it's just an observation of certain behavior that I've seen repeatedly. There is a reason for their bad reputation when it comes to lying, and Pisceans are equally self deceptive about why they lie.

I'm not talking about the "do I look fat" question, because most people lie about that. I don't lie if someone asks me that, and I don't see it as rude if I tell them they do look fat. It's rude to fish for reassurance or compliments, and to put someone in a situation where they feel they have to lie to spare your feelings.

Also, lying about trivial information is one of the main characteristics of pathological lying. There is no real benefit or motivation to lie, but they do it anyway. That is why it's pathological.

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