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C1ND3R
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posted August 29, 2012 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury in Pisces, why must you be such a friggin' LIAR

Call it what you may and have all the reasons in the world but if it isn't based on fact, experience or events that people other than YOU "remember", it is not true!

It doesn't matter how "true" you want it to be!

Argh!!!! It's so annoying!

I did a search even, and found an article on astro and someone talked about their Mercury in Pisces child; even telling people what you believe they want to hear, is also a lie, no matter the intention behind it!

Sincerely, a Virgo.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone lies.

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C1ND3R
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posted August 29, 2012 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
Everyone lies.

You perhaps haven't met individuals with Mercury in hard aspect to Mars.

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Odette
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posted August 29, 2012 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes... everyone lies... but truth be told we lie more.

Very proud of my acting skills!!

Pisces Merc here

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posted August 29, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do lie...but they are small lies. I would never lie about anything serious if confronted about it directly. It's too much energy for me to (Mercury in Aries).

However, odd you brought this up because my mother has Mercury in Pisces, and she's lied to me yet again.

I also don't trust my Pisces sun, Mercury in Pisces friend when she tells me bits of gossip. I feel like these Mercuries miss key components (aka facts) when telling a story to make it sound better. They gloss over what others would think is important.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And sincerely.. I stay away from Virgo Merc types... so congratulations on having the problem you are having.
I could care less.. and I am positive the other Pisces Mercs in your life could likewise - care less.

If you have issues - interact with other people!
We are not all meant to be best friends.. hey?

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posted August 29, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have that placement and lying doesnt come naturally for me, I hate lying despise it but it is necessary at times. I actaully have a Virgo friend who loves to lie and play games so lets not pin this one negative trait on merc in pisces.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugggh sounds like people are being defensive about their lying???? if you aren't liars you wouldn't feel so defensive.. admit it.. you just wouldn't its a fact.. AND yes mercury in Pisces can incline someone to lie more than average.. in fact all water signs don't' seem to care about truth as much as the other signs. its a fact.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

However, odd you brought this up because my mother has Mercury in Pisces, and she's lied to me yet again.

I also don't trust my Pisces sun, Mercury in Pisces friend when she tells me bits of gossip. I feel like these Mercuries miss key components (aka facts) when telling a story to make it sound better. They gloss over what others would think is important.


It's exactly the same situation i had and why i brought it up! It does NOT build any trust! What's worse is that when trust does develop, they undermine the whole darn thing! My sun is in virgo and talk about splitting a hair down in half, i cannot let any of it slide!! It's awful!

What's awful is them doing that and my seeing when they do it to other people.. Biting my tongue is not something i'm good at.

A sibling of mine a long time ago lied and said that my father raped them (sibling: south node in gemini).. I was younger than 3 at the time it "occured". They kept the story up and built onto it for YEARS and it wasn't until i reached the age of 18 that i found out that NONE od it was true and i had to find it out through someone else.

I haven't had a relationship with my father and always heard horrible things from my mother about him because of it and i cannot for one stinkin second see any good of telling even a "white lie"- there's no such thing!

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posted August 29, 2012 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
Ugggh sounds like people are being defensive about their lying???? if you aren't liars you wouldn't feel so defensive.. admit it.. you just wouldn't its a fact.. AND yes mercury in Pisces can incline someone to lie more than average.. in fact all water signs don't' seem to care about truth as much as the other signs. its a fact.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could also be a failure to communicate...I mean your sun IS opposing their mercury. A Virgo is very factual and literal whereas I think Pisces and Mercury in Pisces (although they observe a LOT more than they let on) is about the big picture.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ruler of Pisces is Neptune right? And Neptune is very dreamy, poetic, and spiritual. However, the thing about Neptune as beautiful as all that is, it kind of does see things the way that it wants to. (Or the way it should/could/or would be in a perfect world :-)

Some people who are accused of lying don't feel that they are--they very well may be seeing things from a different perspective. Trying to evade a topic, diffuse the situation, etc.

There is also that part of Neptune which can be deceptive or FEEL deceived because it seems what it wants! But then again, human beings are flawed and I think this is within everyone.

Are there other aspects going on here in this situation?

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posted August 29, 2012 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
It could also be a failure to communicate...I mean your sun IS opposing their mercury. A Virgo is very factual and literal whereas I think Pisces and Mercury in Pisces (although they observe a LOT more than they let on) is about the big picture.

From what i've seen, it's been about things that flat out have never happened and do not exist!

When she remarried, she had tales of her supposed honeymoon and how she and he met.. To the point where she would write letters to "him" that she would keep to herself talking about events that have NEVER happened..!!! It's not a failure to communicate or miscommunication, it is flat out LYING!

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posted August 29, 2012 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lying is stupid

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posted August 29, 2012 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there are two types of neputians.. one that make things up and lie and one things that don't lie but appear to be lying because they deceived themselves.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lotus_flower:
The ruler of Pisces is Neptune right? And Neptune is very dreamy, poetic, and spiritual. However, the thing about Neptune as beautiful as all that is, it kind of does see things the way that it wants to. (Or the way it should/could/or would be in a perfect world :-)

Some people who are accused of lying don't feel that they are--they very well may be seeing things from a different perspective. Trying to evade a topic, diffuse the situation, etc.

There is also that part of Neptune which can be deceptive or FEEL deceived because it seems what it wants! But then again, human beings are flawed and I think this is within everyone.

Are there other aspects going on here in this situation?


Sun, Mercury and Venus in Pisces.
Mercury and Venus TRINE Neptune.
Both also opposite Pluto in Leo.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder, would Pisces mercury believe his/her own lies? They're supposed to be the ones most comfortable in a dream world (and like children that way, who can tell the most amazing lies and yet seem to sincerely believe themselves, like one boy I knew who told a story about how a plant grew out of his ear...). And if they believe themselves then it gets into that vague and disturbing territory between deceit & delusion.

And I think the biggest (and most two-faced) liar I knew (and knew her chart) had a Scorpio Mercury, but I think she sincerely tried to believe herself as she told the most outrageous lies.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think some believe their own lies?

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posted August 29, 2012 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
You perhaps haven't met individuals with Mercury in hard aspect to Mars.


True. I have Mars sq. Mercury AND Mercury trine Saturn. I can be painfully truthful to other people. And when I blow up verbally the flood gates open into torrents of painful verbal blows. I've traumatized and severely hurt people with my words and hate lying above ANYTHING especially in intimate relationships. My Mars also trines Pluto.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know that Mercury in Pisces makes someone a liar. Not sure I buy it.

When a native has natal squares or oppositions to his mercury from Jupiter or Neptune, he tends to lie a bit more than others, regardless of the sign in which his mercury is located. I have seen many compulsive liars with these aspects.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I wonder, would Pisces mercury believe his/her own lies? They're supposed to be the ones most comfortable in a dream world (and like children that way, who can tell the most amazing lies and yet seem to sincerely believe themselves, like one boy I knew who told a story about how a plant grew out of his ear...). And if they believe themselves then it gets into that vague and disturbing territory between deceit & delusion.

And I think the biggest (and most two-faced) liar I knew (and knew her chart) had a Scorpio Mercury, but I think she sincerely tried to believe herself as she told the most outrageous lies.


I haven't socialized with many other mercury's in Pisces for obvious reasons but from the experiences that i have had, in the case where she made up an elaborate, romantic story about how her and her new husband met and the honeymoon they never took, she built onto that story to the point where i pointed out none of it happened and the response i got was that they were even starting to believe all of it, themselves, too...

I could only shake and scratch my head.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:

True. I have Mars sq. Mercury AND Mercury trine Saturn. I can be painfully truthful to other people. And when I blow up verbally the flood gates open into torrents of painful verbal blows. I've traumatized and severely hurt people with my words and hate lying above ANYTHING especially in intimate relationships. My Mars also trines Pluto.

I you, y'know? I have the opposition.

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posted August 29, 2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
Ugggh sounds like people are being defensive about their lying???? if you aren't liars you wouldn't feel so defensive.. admit it.. you just wouldn't its a fact.. AND yes mercury in Pisces can incline someone to lie more than average.. in fact all water signs don't' seem to care about truth as much as the other signs. its a fact.

Its a fact cuzyou said so? lol now thats a lie!

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posted August 29, 2012 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mimicking rhianna....

I'm such a liar... but I'm perfectly honest about it!

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posted August 29, 2012 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mimicking rhianna....

I'm such a liar... but I'm perfectly honest about it!


Lol

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