posted September 05, 2012 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Selene was the goddess of the moon that fell in love with the mortal Endymion( and he fell in love with her) who was a shepard/astronomer but he was also a son of Zeus. Because She fell so deeply in love with him she asked Zeus to put him into a eternal sleep because he was mortal and would die. Once in the eternal sleep he stayed the same age forever and never died, she stayed by his side and visited him in his dreams. She ended up baring him 50 daughters.

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WOW that is beautiful!

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posted September 05, 2012 09:10 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Childbearing as in the stresses of raising children, or the stress of differing views on whether or not to have children?

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posted September 05, 2012 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
@CosmicKarma360
Oh ok :] fair enough
the only thing is that when it comes to common interests it takes me back to the saturn in 11H thread. For instance, I can understand how a relationship wouldn't work out if the girl was a party animal and she was dating an older man who's a homebody. But the women who have the qualities of an "old soul" I don't see how it would be a problem for them personally. Idk what other placements could confirm that trait, but again these are just ideas. I haven't experienced an age-gap relationship to really know how it would work out

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I get what you mean Yeah, I did know someone like what you're talking about. The girl/woman has her n.Moon and n.Saturn conjunct. In the 2nd house (self-esteem). She's a very serious girl. You'd call her "wise beyond her years." She went out with someone 19 years older than her. He dumped her several years ago, and she's still not over it. Anyway, yes, someone like her seems to relate well to older types. Then again, the guy was also an immature douc%e.

Oh! She also has n.Venus in the 11th. I think I did read somewhere on the web once that 11th house Venus will marry, or be involved with older relationships. However, I could be TOTALLY wrong about that. I know it would mean meeting a partner through group activities.

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posted September 05, 2012 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
@ail221
you should make a thread about these pairs in asteroids, they sound very interesting

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posted September 06, 2012 12:49 AM            

The reason I asked is that I ran across a study which mentioned the relationship between children & marital satisfaction. According to that study, couples felt less happy in their marriages during their children's teens and birth-3 years.

The reasoning was that the stress of parenting tends to be harsher during newborn-toddler, and then again during the teen years. Of course this varies in some families, but it was the overall correlation observed.

posted September 06, 2012 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Wish I could find the website again, but there was one that gave the statistics of May/December marriages. It was a real eye-opener. Overall, the failure rate is 83%. Over half of those marriages end within the first year, and out of the half that are left, another half are done within 2 years. Every time now that I see these big age gap marriages, I look to see if/when they get divorced. To tell you the truth, most of them do.

The study used couples that had 10+ years or more as an age gap. They looked at 1,000 couples, and these were the May/Dec relationships that made it to the altar. They said in the study that the vast majority of these kinds of relationships end way before making it to marriage.

In the end, the best guess that they had was 17% of the marriages lasted 10+ years or more, however, they stressed that it was probably more like 15%. 17% was their best estimate. However, what was interesting is that if the woman was over the age of 40, then the marriage was more likely to last. So yeah, guys, if you're 60, then go for a 40 year old. It'll be fine

The most successful marriages were the ones in which the woman was 4 years younger than the man. The second most successful marriages were the ones in which the woman was 2 years older than the man. This study strictly covered Male/Female marriages.

All that said, I had one Leo friend who strictly dates much older men. She always has, and she has Cap on the DSC. She also has major--and I do mean MAJOR--daddy hang-ups. It's not pretty.

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posted September 06, 2012 01:11 AM            

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Originally posted by ShadowLeo:
Hmmm, LOL... I had a December wedding... with a guy 13 years older than me. We're gonna have our 7th anniversary this year & we're very happy. I have no Saturn aspects to personal planets (or NN), I have a Sun/Venus/Jupiter conjunction, no Capricorn placements or Capricorn on any angles... I do have, however, Uranus conjunct Asc and Venus sextile Pluto. I don't know... For me, men who are less than 10 years older than me are a HUGE turn off.

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posted September 06, 2012 01:13 AM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Thanks, Cosmic =) Makes sense to me, in either situation.

The reason I asked is that I ran across a study which mentioned the relationship between children & marital satisfaction. According to that study, couples felt less happy in their marriages during their children's teens and birth-3 years.

The reasoning was that the stress of parenting tends to be harsher during newborn-toddler, and then again during the teen years. Of course this varies in some families, but it was the overall correlation observed.

It would thus make total sense that the stress of the child(dren) factor would just add to the stresses of dealing with other factors in an age difference union. Interesting stuff, thank you for posting on the study =)

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posted September 06, 2012 01:49 AM            

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Originally posted by ShadowLeo:
You guys, I just had a weird idea... Don't laugh too hard, LOL... What if the ages we prefer, we do so because the soulmate that we're supposed to be with might be within that age range and we're unconsciously looking for him/her (astrologically speaking, that would mean some sort of aspects, some of them with generational planets, right?)? I know, it sounds awfully cheesy...

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Hey, I personally don't think that's cheesy. In fact, I was very curious how the Nodes play out in that kind of thing. Ok, for some reason, there are a couple of guys that I'm attracted to, and they're all born in 1958. I'm born in 1964. Now, their NN all fall in or around my 7th house. A couple of them do land right around my DSC. Also, their n.Neptune lands around my DSC. So, yeah, there could be something there.

posted September 06, 2012 07:00 AM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Thanks, Cosmic =) Makes sense to me, in either situation.

The reason I asked is that I ran across a study which mentioned the relationship between children & marital satisfaction. According to that study, couples felt less happy in their marriages during their children's teens and birth-3 years.

The reasoning was that the stress of parenting tends to be harsher during newborn-toddler, and then again during the teen years. Of course this varies in some families, but it was the overall correlation observed.

It would thus make total sense that the stress of the child(dren) factor would just add to the stresses of dealing with other factors in an age difference union. Interesting stuff, thank you for posting on the study =)

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Just out of curiosity: what about age-difference couples that don't have children (as in, ever--not just delaying them but not having them at all, by either mutual agreement or simply not being able to have them)? Or what about those in which the older partner already has grown children that don't live with the couple, and doesn't want more kids? Anything on that?

Among the couples who did stay together, it would be interesting to know that, as well as how they made it work and others did not--what caused the difference, and what made so many of those marriages not last.

posted September 06, 2012 07:51 AM            

I remember falling for my uni teacher I believed to be around 45 and then it cropped up he was past 50 and more than twice my age and older than my father, I couldn't cope with it, got so disgusted. Because he knew how old he was, why all those attempts at seduction? Never again. And perhaps some older men are attractive but they lack something, some youthfulness perhaps. I wouldn't be able to fall in love, and I don't practice shallow sex for pleasure either.... Last but not least I am convinced that a girl who goes for an older man comes across as being unable to attract someone her own age, and I don't want to seem like a loser. Anyway, I am against age gaps. Old men should sexually satisfy old women, otherwise old women will get too aggressive and poison everybody's lives. I find the sheer idea of an old man assuming he's good enough for a girl who looks underage obscene and gross. As if he thinks he could outdo whoevers younger and has a softer skin. No good.

posted September 06, 2012 07:58 AM            

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Hmmm, LOL... I had a December wedding... with a guy 13 years older than me. We're gonna have our 7th anniversary this year & we're very happy. I have no Saturn aspects to personal planets (or NN), I have a Sun/Venus/Jupiter conjunction, no Capricorn placements or Capricorn on any angles... I do have, however, Uranus conjunct Asc and Venus sextile Pluto. I don't know... For me, men who are less than 10 years older than me are a HUGE turn off.

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Uranus conj ASC would make you be able to do something out of the norm and be fine with it. Also, you may be attracted to unconventional things. Does that describe you?

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posted September 06, 2012 10:21 AM            

My boyfriend right is 8 years older than me. Sometimes it's brought a little bit of tension, but overall I think it's too little a difference to end a relationship. 10+ years I think is when all the typical May/December problems surface.

posted September 06, 2012 11:23 AM            

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Just wanted to say I have Venus sq Saturn (loose orb of 5 degrees) and I am not in the least tempted by older men. The right age for me is my own age give or take 3 years either way.

I remember falling for my uni teacher I believed to be around 45 and then it cropped up he was past 50 and more than twice my age and older than my father, I couldn't cope with it, got so disgusted. Because he knew how old he was, why all those attempts at seduction? Never again. And perhaps some older men are attractive but they lack something, some youthfulness perhaps. I wouldn't be able to fall in love, and I don't practice shallow sex for pleasure either.... Last but not least I am convinced that a girl who goes for an older man comes across as being unable to attract someone her own age, and I don't want to seem like a loser. Anyway, I am against age gaps. Old men should sexually satisfy old women, otherwise old women will get too aggressive and poison everybody's lives. I find the sheer idea of an old man assuming he's good enough for a girl who looks underage obscene and gross. As if he thinks he could outdo whoevers younger and has a softer skin. No good.

I need someone to walk the road with, not someone who looks down on my problems. And I don't need schoolboys either, I find them mentally inferior (not generally, just when it comes to them developing a liking for me)

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I don't mean to be rude or argumentative, and hope I'm not violating the rules here, but I really don't think that people who date outside of their age group are "losers" or unable to get someone in their own group--sometimes, yes, but not always. Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart, for example. She is really cool and still sharp and sassy (she is 87 now and will be 88 in a few days). She's pretty awesome, I think. I would never call her a 'loser'.

I also have to say that older women cannot blame anyone but themselves if they become nasty when they get older. Being like that is a character flaw and personal failure, a fault within oneself, and can happen whether one has sex or not. If an older woman gets like that, she has to take personal responsibility for it--it's not fair to blame another person for her own faults--and it's up to her to work on using her energy in more positive ways.

I do agree, though, about younger guys and their maturity level. Then again, older guys can be immature and selfish too.

Really, maybe it just depends on the specific individuals involved more than anything else.