posted September 06, 2012 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I don't mean to be rude or argumentative, and hope I'm not violating the rules here, but I really don't think that people who date outside of their age group are "losers" or unable to get someone in their own group--sometimes, yes, but not always. Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart, for example. She is really cool and still sharp and sassy (she is 87 now and will be 88 in a few days). She's pretty awesome, I think. I would never call her a 'loser'.

Yes, some people do have bad intentions, but other times, people honestly fall in love with people older or younger. To me, intent matters more than age. It isn't right for a younger person (male or female) to be a gold-digger and take advantage of someone's feelings (like in the film "Scarlet Street"). Wanting security and stability isn't bad, so I'm not saying that (I think that stability and security are smart things to look for in a potential marriage partner), but what I mean is when someone just wants money and doesn't even care at all about the person--that's what's wrong to me. It also isn't right for an older person to want a trophy wife/husband or be controlling. It would be bad, too, if someone was 18 or 19, or else if someone was a bit older but very naive and inexperienced, and someone older took advantage of tha). In those cases, I would disapprove of the relationship.

However, if both people are over 20, have good intentions, honestly care for each other, are compatible, and no one is taking advantage of anyone--on either side--then I believe it is up to the couple.

Personally, I think that age gap relationships tend to work better once the younger person is over 30. That's just my opinion, though.

I also have to say that older women cannot blame anyone but themselves if they become nasty when they get older. Being like that is a character flaw and personal failure, a fault within oneself, and can happen whether one has sex or not. If an older woman gets like that, she has to take personal responsibility for it--it's not fair to blame another person for her own faults--and it's up to her to work on using her energy in more positive ways.

I do agree, though, about younger guys and their maturity level. Then again, older guys can be immature and selfish too.

Really, maybe it just depends on the specific individuals involved more than anything else.

For what it's worth, I have two Capricorn planets in the 2nd house.

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I said what works for me, that's all. As for intent, I just happen to believe boys my age more capable of understanding who I am, they are not looking for pretty dolls to play with. And I like people at a similar stage in life to mine, someone who's made it is just not for me.

posted September 06, 2012 12:18 PM            

...in some of her posts - she sounds like a bully girl from high-school - kinda like the ones from the movie "Mean Girls" - where those that don't fit her perspective on "how all people should be (cool, young and... "Twilight" - let's face it "that's not a real life perspective") are "looser" and so on... she doesn't realize or maybe doesn't care - that she's very insulting to many people "with such comments..." - even the comments related to her own sign...

posted September 06, 2012 01:24 PM            

One of my closest friends is ten years senior to her partner. They do not wish to marry or have children, and have been together for seven years. From what they say, they are very happy and the stresses in their relationship have not been related to the age difference, but from his mother being a meddler.

My friend is very beautiful inside and out, and looks and acts much more youthful than her age. People constantly confuse her for being up to fifteen years younger. I do wonder if this effect would lessen if she did have children.

My personal view is that children are very precious and rewarding, but parenting them does take a lot from you as an individual. For example, a parent has to devote time, energy, and nurturing to children that otherwise would be devoted on the self.

My partner and I both very much wanted a child together, and we do love our little one more than anything. However, the change in adding a child of our own (I already had a two from previous union) was/is challenging.

In my experience, it is not the same coming in with children of your own, to having/raising one together from infancy. I do agree with the study that I read, in that the years of infancy-toddler and teens are very challenging.

Once a child is out on their own, they are still your child of course, but you aren't usually catering to their every needs as with an infant/toddler. You usually obtain some level of space as your child becomes more independent and their world expands beyond the parental home.

I think it may be less stressful to enter a union once both your children are more mature, then having children together at home. I might be biased as this is from my own experiences =)

posted September 06, 2012 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Long - standing:
It was always interesting for me: why having sun-moon-saturn conjunction i always attract younger men, my husband is 2 years younger, but the last men, who was very serious and wanted to destroy my family was 14 years younger... three planets in the 5 th, or it is a Venus in the 11 th, or Gemini asc??

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posted September 06, 2012 11:03 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I'll be the second man to contribute. I have all sorts of Saturn placements and I'll be far too self-conscious to date significantly younger. Of course, I'm human and the attraction is there, but I would prefer to just keep it to myself lol I'm not some craddle robber! My wife is 5 years younger.

The other issue is having things/issues/likings/hobbies/conversation topics in common. It's all fine until either party opens its mouth. "Look, I'm talking about mutual funds, not mutual fun "

Notwithstanding that, I look and behave much younger than I actually am.

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Why would you as the older male have insecurities? What sort of insecurities?

posted September 06, 2012 11:09 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I think I will after I research some more couples with this pairing. I know Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward have both of those pairings.

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posted September 06, 2012 11:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Now for the ppl that don't.. maybe Sun/Moon/Jupiter to Venus. Do you have any of these aspects aqua?

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meanfish, y these 3 planets to venus??

i have sun/ jupiter trine venus.

posted September 07, 2012 12:43 AM            

Both men & women, regardless of age should be held to the same standards. In my case, people rarely guess my age of early thirti as I take good care to exercise and eat well.

I'm frequently carded at restaurants and no one can believe my love is a few yrs younger, some are surprised that I have more than one child. Result of good genes, lifestyle, choice and lol perhaps mercury conj sun

My love on the other hand will soon be thirty yet has looks and stamina of a 40 something. Very handsome and wonderful lover, but overweight and frumpy in attire and it takes so much to get him into that mode. Lol and this considering he has mars in Scorpio of all things. I love him dearly but it annoys me that he seems to have bought into the tale of being proud of his sexy wife while not taking care to be the sexy virile person I was first attracted to. Of course I wouldn't leave him over this and I'm trying to coax him to join me on my runs and in other activities, but it is so frustrating to see firsthand what those stupid media and social sex roles bias do.

posted September 07, 2012 02:18 AM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Lol sorry for adding to derailing of aspects. Ok in terms of aspects yes it seems Venus/Saturn and Venus/ Uranus would benefit age differences or any other differences such as ethnic/ religious/etc. I have Venus conj Uranus in the 11th, always been fascinated by anything/anyone unique and different.

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posted September 07, 2012 09:34 AM            

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Originally posted by violet7887:

Yta some q's if you don't mind...

Why would you as the older male have insecurities? What sort of insecurities?

And I think you maybe right to some extent but what if your interests actually match. For example I am a finance major so you might not have the same problem with me.

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Hi Violet,

I'm so sorry that I missed your post till now.

It's true that I am contsantly deeply insecure about myself in terms of achievement and money, even though I have a long enough list of both. This is not about emotional insecurity.

It's more about reputational risk. Mine's an industry where you are only as good as your last deal, and your ability to do business hinges on your reputation.

Hypothetically speaking, because I am very married. Let's say I have been single all my life and have never been married.

I'm close to 50 and I do routinely consort with (not date!) women in their early 20s (which I don't understand why I seem to get along very well with), I'm not about to bump into a fellow professional walking down the street with a woman 30 years younger. The next thing I know, information spreads like wildfire. The dirty-minded guys may come up and high-five me (and there are a lot of butt heads in my business), but there goes my career. I will no longer get hooked up with deals. I can't get partnerships. I become known across the Street as unreliable and having a questionable lifestyle. Never mind my reputation with women my age or older.

The simple explanation is that I am only human. A pretty young woman walks down the street, and it may or may not turn my head. But it ends there, even if I were not married.

Absolutely no offense to anyone, but outside of my wife, I would not sacrifice my career for any woman or any amount of sex. I've worked hard all my life to get where I am, and I'm not about to lose it like that.

posted September 07, 2012 10:37 AM            

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Originally posted by ShadowLeo:
CosmicKarma... Oh, Dear! I'm not trying to make you do or think anything, I was just "inviting" everyone to a little more open-mindedness and tolerance (I'm starting to notice a lot of ppl around here who have a lack of respect for anyone who doesn't share their oppinion... pity!), you don't have to be all argumentative and stuff. I really don't give a proverbial you-know-what about what you (or anyone, for that matter) thinks or feels about me and my husband and I certainly don't need anyone's confirmation to know that I'm happy. Geez... LOL

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Ummm..... I don't know how much more tolerant I can be of your particular lifestyle choice when I have said over and over, "Go. Enjoy yourself. If it works for you, then fine." Obviously, with the way you keep baiting and badgering me, you care plenty a "you-know-what" it is that I think. Otherwise, you would not be pestering me like this. Really, if you're happy, then once again, fine. Go be happy. Also, you don't have to keep harping that you're so very happy. We all got that already. I'm not trying to change your mind in the least. One more time: Go. It works for you. Fine.

posted September 07, 2012 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
RegardesPlatero... my advice: "don't bother..." - take it from my experience with her, as one who learned this lesson the hard-way: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/215332-3.html - she's like a "hard aspect (Saturn Square Neptune... maybe)".

...in some of her posts - she sounds like a bully girl from high-school - kinda like the ones from the movie "Mean Girls" - where those that don't fit her perspective on "how all people should be (cool, young and... "Twilight" - let's face it "that's not a real life perspective") are "looser" and so on... she doesn't realize or maybe doesn't care - that she's very insulting to many people "with such comments..." - even the comments related to her own sign...

I know that Capricorns are known to be serious at young age (the serious child) and become more childish along the way - but that's taking it to extreme... and maybe that's the result of denying the Sun Sign, ignoring everything that can be related to that... either way - i don't care anymore...I "wasted" to much energy trying to convince her - that "what she's doing is not ok" - but you can't help those that don't wanna be helped - or those that take pride in such behavior... so, "good luck" if you wanna try... maybe you'll succeed where i failed - or you might become another subject of her hate... and find it easier to give up in the end...

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Am I allowed to post on LL without being bad mouthed by someone with bad grammar? Is it so hard to abstain and ignore? Ego issues? Are you entitled to look down upon me and label me in front of the whole community?

Do you bloody realise your comments about my humble person are idiotic? Derogatory and making me sound like an object of study.