posted September 08, 2012 06:54 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Just wanted to say I have Venus sq Saturn (loose orb of 5 degrees) and I am not in the least tempted by older men. The right age for me is my own age give or take 3 years either way.

I remember falling for my uni teacher I believed to be around 45 and then it cropped up he was past 50 and more than twice my age and older than my father, I couldn't cope with it, got so disgusted. Because he knew how old he was, why all those attempts at seduction? Never again. And perhaps some older men are attractive but they lack something, some youthfulness perhaps. I wouldn't be able to fall in love, and I don't practice shallow sex for pleasure either.... Last but not least I am convinced that a girl who goes for an older man comes across as being unable to attract someone her own age, and I don't want to seem like a loser. Anyway, I am against age gaps. Old men should sexually satisfy old women, otherwise old women will get too aggressive and poison everybody's lives. I find the sheer idea of an old man assuming he's good enough for a girl who looks underage obscene and gross. As if he thinks he could outdo whoevers younger and has a softer skin. No good.

I need someone to walk the road with, not someone who looks down on my problems. And I don't need schoolboys either, I find them mentally inferior (not generally, just when it comes to them developing a liking for me)

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just out of curiosity....do you think people deserve to find love?

posted September 08, 2012 07:26 AM            

it is none of my business who deserves what. when fat 35 year olds who cannot dress well approach me and look at me as if they had just found "the one" and try to pick me up and single me out, even then despite feeling disgusted (with myself) i know it is none of my business if they deserve to find love or not. they are not gonna find it in my bed, that's all i know and all i am allowed/entitled to know.

@ Moonfish: i know it might be tricky but i say these things all the time. i sometimes tell boys they sound like a 35 year old female virgin, which doesn't mean they are one. the same goes for 4 inches. i never assumed anything. i just said "what you say makes you sound...." , i specifically said whatever the truth is". there is no denying that a man satisfied with his body would choose to ignore, that's all. and it's not a personal comment, it's just an evaluation of behaviour and manner of speaking. the rest is none of my business. if i had said "you probably have 4 inches" thats one thing. when i say "what you say is only fit for 4 inches" it means "grow up, act like a self-sufficient person". which is not a crime/verbal attack. in order not to receive comments "what you say is only fit for 4 inches" one shouldn't post them. i just hate patronising condescending people who think they know what i need better than i do. patronising tone is just as good of an insult as anything. and all my claims to be talked to like a human being not a schoolgirl were ignored. ok. he thinks he's awesome. other opinions on the subject are allowed to exist. i just don't want this adorable gentleman to stalk me all over the place and inform other users they shouldn't talk to me. this kind of behaviour is silly and ghastly and mental.

i have talked to others, i am perfectly normal. it's not like i pick fights with everyone. i have as much right to be here as everyone.

posted September 08, 2012 08:11 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Just curious "if I'm the only one with this opinion" - as in: "the way you try to explain your behavior as if it's something that should be acceptable - it's amusing and disturbing in the same time... you sound like a verbal bully that wants to be accepted as being a verbal bully (on forums they're called "trolls") - wile the rest should let you do your thing, they shouldn't even portray you with this image - let alone - treat you in a similar way (with same coin)...

Sorry, but this sounds like a joke - a sick joke...

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tell me one thing then - is a patronising tone more acceptable than what i do? what do you want me to do? to humbly nod? why should i humbly nod? i ASKED you to give it up if you intended to have a conversation with me. i had not been aware of your existence until that moment and couldn't care less about it.

as for your Grandmother being a Capricorn - well there is a typical expression of the sun sign and a non-typical. there was a thread for example not so long ago stating that all Sag men a douchebags. perhaps you should have come there to preach as well. it was an insult by your standards you know.

seriously what do you want? you cannot talk like an amateur psychoanalyst and be regarded as i don't know the next C.G. Jung. To be received as the next C.G. Jung you should have been saying more informed and less disrespectful things. you wanted me to be your case without my consent. you started preaching despite my requests to give it up. you kept calling your silly ejaculations help. then you were surprised when i got revolted. will you keep saying you are flawless?

well what should i do? stalk you around and tell everyone not to talk to you? tell everyone we have a case of an amateur psychoanalyst who lavishes his services on everyone contrary to their wish? perhaps you would do yourself a much bigger favour by obtaining a proper qualification and doing this sort of thing for a living, i'm pretty sure you would get yourself enough clientele to pay your rent. everyone would be pleased. you would go pro, your clients would pay you money, to the satisfaction of both sides.

as for me my career is in publishing and i just sort of happen to know certain things well. witches' blood and all. i am not claiming to be a pro and do not inundate people i don't know with advice they don't need.

also yeah I live in England and in England it is an insult to offer unwanted help. cultural differences, call it. it is an insult to talk patronisingly. you did. chasing someone with worthless advice is an insult. basically reconcile yourself with the fact that i will hang out on LL as much as I want. it is big enough for everyone. over time your throwing stones at me will only look like some mental obsession.

posted September 08, 2012 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
I'm already done debating/arguing with you (just a waste of time and energy - and then there's that negative vibe...which I'd rather avoid) - just curios on Moderators opinion about it - if i say that: i like to behave like a jerk in real life, cause maybe some friends accept me like that - should my behavior be accepted on a public forum where the majority might find this kinda behavior offensive?

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oh la-la. i have loads of friends, and everyone adores me. speak on your own behalf, not the majority's. and i never act like a jerk.

well yes of course any opinion on you that is not brown-nosing is a bad vibe, everyone got that already. and seriously moderate your ardour, you're nobody to pass judgments on me or anybody else.

realise it already that no one is obliged to like you, you're not a 100 dollar bill. people like each other or not. that's all.

and i'd rather have avoided you as well, it wasn't me who's been bad-mouthing you in front of everyone. this is called defamation you know.

just a final word of advice for you: do perform reality checks. always ask yourself "perhaps i'm wrong?" people will like you all the better for it.

posted September 08, 2012 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
@ doomlord: even astrologically love is allocated a different place in the lives of different people. there's even a phrase "love is not the focus of your existence in this lifetime"

it is none of my business who deserves what. when fat 35 year olds who cannot dress well approach me and look at me as if they had just found "the one" and try to pick me up and single me out, even then despite feeling disgusted (with myself) i know it is none of my business if they deserve to find love or not. they are not gonna find it in my bed, that's all i know and all i am allowed/entitled to know.
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just to be clear...even if the impression isnt there i wasnt claiming that you should fall for every person who thinks he loves you

i belive that when 2 (!) people love eeach other THEN the differences between them doesent matter

i wasnt reffering to your standarts but to the impression that came from your post that some people are not supposed to be around with other people....on the grounds of appearance....and that confused me becuse appearance isnt all that matters...for me at least

posted September 08, 2012 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
It's best to ignore someone rather than argue and risk being banned.

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yes true. sorry Randall. but then you might know i am a valuable contributor in personal readings. i was willing to move on, but defamation in front of everyone is more than i can cope with. as i said, no one will ever protect me, i had to stand up for myself. and all sorts of things have been happening. whereabouts was not banned after bad-mouthing Ros and openly posting libel about her..... these incidents occur. if i end up banned will be even better for me, i became quite addicted

posted September 08, 2012 09:13 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
just to be clear...even if the impression isnt there i wasnt claiming that you should fall for every person who thinks he loves you

i belive that when 2 (!) people love eeach other THEN the differences between them doesent matter

i wasnt reffering to your standarts but to the impression that came from your post that some people are not supposed to be around with other people....on the grounds of appearance....and that confused me becuse appearance isnt all that matters...for me at least

and who knows.....maybe that fat 35 year old is actually the perfect person for you personality wise and you would never know (just joking no judgement on your choices.....im usually unattracted to sloppy people myself XD)

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love is generally rare you know. there might be exceptions to every rule - only to prove it. we don't know that much about the celebrity couples listed. i am a massive fan of Gainsbourg and Birkin, for example, they had some massive difference in age if i remember right. but i saw her at 0.5m at some point to get an autograph and she still seems to have him all over her. i am not denying beautiful stuff exists that abolishes all external factors and norms. but the general rule is not pretty that's all. as someone said look at woody allen and this korean girl or whoever she is. gross if anything.

or this uni teacher of mine, twice my age. he would do much better if he got married and had children, yet he's making himself pitiable running after girls half his age. how viable is it likely to be? when he tried it with me, i couldn't help feeling he just wanted to consume - beauty, body, affections. i never felt like he cared about me. he once drove me to tears just to be able to be sweet and gentle to me afterwards - and sure enough i bought it, remembering the gentleness but not what preceded it. wanted to have his glands tickled by a sweet doll-like girl's affections. then would ditch as soon as bored.

whatever is said by anyone allows the possibility of exceptions.

posted September 08, 2012 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
ask yourself "perhaps i'm wrong?"

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...i did that:

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Just curious "if I'm the only one with this opinion" - as in: "the way you try to explain your behavior as if it's something that should be acceptable - it's amusing and disturbing in the same time... you sound like a verbal bully that wants to be accepted as being a verbal bully (on forums they're called "trolls") - wile the rest should let you do your thing, they shouldn't even portray you with this image - let alone - treat you in a similar way (with same coin)...

Sorry, but this sounds like a joke - a sick joke... I'm also curious in what do the moderators think about it - is this kinda behavior accepted around here?

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Originally posted by Randall:
It's best to ignore someone rather than argue and risk being banned.

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True. But i'm still curious on what is accepted on this forum and what not - if the administrative parties of this forum consider that - i deserve to be banned I'm fine with that - being a repercussion of my actions which i chose and stood by cause I believed them to be right... if I'm the one being wrong - then I'll live with that... definitely won't try to manipulate my way out of it and look for compassion... i know who i am (both the good side and the bad) - and won't pretend otherwise... and definitely - don't like to be part of a community where I'm not wanted (i can leave on my own if that's the case).

PS.And i didn't want you to Ban andstuff - was expecting for a warning and hoping that would be enough coming from a person with authority.

posted September 08, 2012 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
love is generally rare you know. there might be exceptions to every rule - only to prove it. we don't know that much about the celebrity couples listed. i am a massive fan of Gainsbourg and Birkin, for example, they had some massive difference in age if i remember right. but i saw her at 0.5m at some point to get an autograph and she still seems to have him all over her. i am not denying beautiful stuff exists that abolishes all external factors and norms. but the general rule is not pretty that's all. as someone said look at woody allen and this korean girl or whoever she is. gross if anything.

or this uni teacher of mine, twice my age. he would do much better if he got married and had children, yet he's making himself pitiable running after girls half his age. how viable is it likely to be? when he tried it with me, i couldn't help feeling he just wanted to consume - beauty, body, affections. i never felt like he cared about me. he once drove me to tears just to be able to be sweet and gentle to me afterwards - and sure enough i bought it, remembering the gentleness but not what preceded it. wanted to have his glands tickled by a sweet doll-like girl's affections. then would ditch as soon as bored.

whatever is said by anyone allows the possibility of exceptions.

as for what is right for me - i have NN in Taurus, so the aesthetic element of desire is important, i can't help it. i am like most boys, i can only fall in love with someone who seems hot the second i see him. then i choose among those who fit the description.

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well love is what you make of it.....if you have an ideal you wish to live everything that doesent match will eventually wont matter.

maybe that old teacher wishes to find love with someone younger...thats his ideal...and from the young girls he sees he makes his choices....how is he any different than you? if you want a hot guy doesent he deserve to want a young woman?

why should he "settle" for something he doesent want while you should get what you want

posted September 08, 2012 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
well love is what you make of it.....if you have an ideal you wish to live everything that doesent match will eventually wont matter.

maybe that old teacher wishes to find love with someone younger...thats his ideal...and from the young girls he sees he makes his choices....how is he any different than you? if you want a hot guy doesent he deserve to want a young woman?

why should he "settle" for something he doesent want while you should get what you want

just to be clear im not saying you should have been with him...just that both you and him are allowed for their own ideals in relationships

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where i was born they say dreaming does no harm. but on second thoughts perhaps it does. there's been all sorts of warnings about casting aside people who might work but don't match the exact image one has created for oneself. not to say one should be able to offer something in return as well, not only be willing to consume. i knew a couple - 64 yo woman and 35 yo man (not good looking), they were both of southern blood and fought all the time, then she would tell all her employees they had great sex.

i am not confident i will get what i want at all. all i want is someone like me. i have no idea if it's true about compromising in relationships. there are different schools of thought on that.

as for my uni teacher he is not happy. he once confessed to me. they say if things fail to work out presumably one is doing something wrong. and as for me i have been in love with a total misfit, was the best love affair of my life. sweet boy. never thought one could be so close to another person. lost him to drugs and unfortunate circumstances.

posted September 08, 2012 10:29 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
where i was born they say dreaming does no harm. but on second thoughts perhaps it does. there's been all sorts of warnings about casting aside people who might work but don't match the exact image one has created for oneself. not to say one should be able to offer something in return as well, not only be willing to consume. i knew a couple - 64 yo woman and 35 yo man (not good looking), they were both of southern blood and fought all the time, then she would tell all her employees they had great sex.

i am not confident i will get what i want at all. all i want is someone like me. i have no idea if it's true about compromising in relationships. there are different schools of thought on that.

as for my uni teacher he is not happy. he once confessed to me. they say if things fail to work out presumably one is doing something wrong. and as for me i have been in love with a total misfit, was the best love affair of my life. sweet boy. never thought one could be so close to another person. lost him to drugs and unfortunate circumstances.

honestly after thurston moore and kim gordon got divorced i doubt love exists at all.

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if you cant fream than what purpouse you have in life? ( just pices riser ranting XD)

i think that if you keep looking you will find one that you will like....not sure if he will stand for your standarts but you will like him....and then go from there...

all the good and the bad couples were first in deep love....so the only way to find out what you get is by trying

posted September 08, 2012 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
if you cant fream than what purpouse you have in life? ( just pices riser ranting XD)

i think that if you keep looking you will find one that you will like....not sure if he will stand for your standarts but you will like him....and then go from there...

all the good and the bad couples were first in deep love....so the only way to find out what you get is by trying

wishing you good luck

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looking is a sad business

i am scared of everything. of going on a date and finding out the boy has a dry firm tongue like a dog. or going on 10 dates, going to a boy's place only to discover something even worse.

posted September 08, 2012 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
looking is a sad business

i am scared of everything. of going on a date and finding out the boy has a dry firm tongue like a dog. or going on 10 dates, going to a boy's place only to discover something even worse.

moreover i was so broken after it ended with that boy of mine, would be pretty hard to imagine anyone will convince me to allow them to take his place. no one will replace him. i'd rather be on my own than realise it's not like it was with him, because i would hate it. have seen people compromising. they are not happy.

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if you feel love towards a person it wont be compromising for you...as he will make you happy...at least in my opinion

i think your experience changed your view on love and i do hope you will find true love so you will see there are possibilities of happy endings out there

i dont know what qualities you are searching in a man but i think that the feeling you will get from him is what counts most....maybe you will find the super hot guy that knows all the pretty words is even not your type XD

posted September 08, 2012 10:45 AM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Lol sorry for adding to derailing of aspects. Ok in terms of aspects yes it seems Venus/Saturn and Venus/ Uranus would benefit age differences or any other differences such as ethnic/ religious/etc. I have Venus conj Uranus in the 11th, always been fascinated by anything/anyone unique and different.

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Venus/Saturn aspects definitely seem to enjoy age differences. I have it in conjunction, in Capricorn. I seem to differ from people here; for me, the older, the better! Haha.

posted September 08, 2012 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
if you feel love towards a person it wont be compromising for you...as he will make you happy...at least in my opinion

i think your experience changed your view on love and i do hope you will find true love so you will see there are possibilities of happy endings out there

i dont know what qualities you are searching in a man but i think that the feeling you will get from him is what counts most....maybe you will find the soper hot guy that knows all the pretty words is even not your type XD

if you REALLY lost all faith in love that you would rather be alone....but im just that kind of annoying optimist that will tell you to keep trying cause who knows what might happen

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the time i fell in love felt pretty karmic. we went euphoric the second we saw each other. felt like floating on air. like they say the soul is happy to see the lover from a past life or something. how statistically possible is it to light upon something similar any time soon? anything short of this cannot qualify as true love for me.

posted September 08, 2012 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
the time i fell in love felt pretty karmic. we went euphoric the second we saw each other. felt like floating on air. like they say the soul is happy to see the lover from a past life or something. how statistically possible is it to light upon something similar any time soon? anything short of this cannot qualify as true love for me.

i have seen lots of things. say mary was in love with tom, but tom wasn't interested in girls interested in him. so mary spent a couple of years crying, her best friend john was there for her, until she spread for him one day. now it's pretty one-sided. she's shining and brilliant, he's a nobody. he serves her breakfast in bed, she kindly accepts, but feels no real desire, nothing comparable to tom. and john is trying to put on airs to channel tom for her, but keeps failing. mary is selfish, allowing john to love her. true story.

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of course she is...but if john will look he might find someone else that will feel just as good as mary...if not better...or he might no find one at all....at least he wont be taken advantage of....becuse if she will settle for him and they will marry she will probably cheat on him the moment she will find somebody to love and will ruin his life

no one ever said karmic relationships are a thing that happens once in a lifetime....if it dropped on you once it might drop again

posted September 08, 2012 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
no one ever said karmic relationships are a thing that happens once in a lifetime....if it dropped on you once it might drop again

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posted September 08, 2012 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
exactly. there is always an "or not"

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is that a reason to stop trying?

you will live...or not...
you will be healthy...or not...
you will have money...or not...

posted September 08, 2012 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
is that a reason to stop trying?

you will live...or not...
you will be healthy...or not...
you will have money...or not...

"or not" is a big part of life...but not a reason not to live it

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one can live by being prudent, be healthy through a healthy lifestyle and have money as a result of working. these are all things one has a certain amount of control over. disregarding bricks falling on top of one's head of course.

posted September 08, 2012 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
one can live by being prudent, be healthy through a healthy lifestyle and have money as a result of working. these are all things one has a certain amount of control over. disregarding bricks falling on top of one's head of course.

but one cannot make any constructive effort to walk into the love of one's life. going out and being out and about doesn't count. it's pointless, one can do this ad infinitum and it won't pay off. i have seen sad people who keep trying and in all honesty i don't want to be like that.

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i have seen people who work but get low salary and it isnt enough for them...i saw people who keep on good health snd still cancer attacks them

there is a lot of importance on luck in the game of life...some might find love some might not....not looking at all gives you control yet it gives you one option only

posted September 08, 2012 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
i have seen people who work but get low salary and it isnt enough for them...i saw people who keep on good health snd still cancer attacks them

there is a lot of importance on luck in the game of life...some might find love some might not....not looking at all gives you control yet it gives you one option only

and who knows...maybe when you stop looking you might find him

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that's the thing, i'm not really looking due to a lack of time for search and because i don't want to be looking and pitiable.

posted September 08, 2012 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
that's the thing, i'm not really looking due to a lack of time for search and because i don't want to be looking and pitiable.

as for the rest, astrological tools suggest i will get married next year and i don't know anyone i would, and someone else (allegedly good) did a reading for me for £7 stating i will find myself with someone who doesn't sound like he's me at all, to think he can replace my lover already sounds like a betrayal and compromising on my part.

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