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kennedy80
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posted October 27, 2012 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Venus in Gem says: engage me! Let's have fun together! barb! joke! say funny things! Be goofy and silly and laugh our ***** off.

Especially when it's in the 5th house like mine is.

We want a quick-witted, humorous partner to laugh until we cry with. We are kids at heart.

Nothing sexier than a good sense of humor.


I completely agree! Sense of humor is the best. We actually have gotten to the point of laughing so hard there were tears. We're complete goofballs around one another. Pretty good combo actually! Best friends who can make each other laugh, plus the sexual chemistry. Not sure what went wrong. I honestly think it's because he started taking me for granted. It was getting too easy for him. I was always there. I can understand how that can be boring with my Gemini rising and I do also know I wouldn't even be able to step back and realize what I had till it was gone. For sure.

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posted October 27, 2012 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw - if anyone would like to see the synastry chart, I may be able to find it somewhere, ha!

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posted October 27, 2012 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kennedy80:
I'm sorry about your situation Does he happen to have any Virgo in him? I'm not so sure about his Aquarius not wanting to talk. I tend to befriend aquarians often because of their ability to want to talk, like Gemini's. But, my guy has Virgo moon, and I feel the same you do! Doesn't know how to handle his own emotions, much less yours!


Thanks.
I'm the one who has a Virgo Moon.
I'm definitely more emotional than he is, but that's not due to the Virgo Moon (other aspects are responsible for that).

He has Sun & Mars in the 6th though, Virgo house. I do too, but we're like opposites.

He's very rational, practical, likes facts.
I'm erratic, emotional, escapist.

We kind of complement each other but it's still hard to really feel satisfied due to personality differences.


btw, I have a Gemini ascendant too.
So I can relate to the fun/unpredictable thing.
But I do need my dose of closeness & affection (Libra Venus).

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posted October 27, 2012 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Thanks.
I'm the one who has a Virgo Moon.
I'm definitely more emotional than he is, but that's not due to the Virgo Moon (other aspects are responsible for that).

He has Sun & Mars in the 6th though, Virgo house. I do too, but we're like opposites.

He's very rational, practical, likes facts.
I'm erratic, emotional, escapist.

We kind of complement each other but it's still hard to really feel satisfied due to personality differences.


btw, I have a Gemini ascendant too.
So I can relate to the fun/unpredictable thing.
But I do need my dose of closeness & affection (Libra Venus).


Well, now I feel horrible! This makes me think I know nothing of moon in Virgo! I'd like to know more..

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posted October 27, 2012 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The sign placement isn't as important as the aspects it makes.

If the Moon is connected to Mars or Pluto, chances are, the person will be more emotionally reactive than if there weren't these aspects.

If connected to Saturn, emotions will probably be hidden, rationalised or repressed. With Uranus, they'll be changing, erratic, "out of the blue" and difficult to integrate. Maybe some rationalizing, too.

Jupiter & Venus make emotional expression more pleasant, unless the aspects are hard. In that case oversentimentalty and bigger than life emotional displays are possible.

Neptune often makes someone emotionally unstable and/or confused, but these people usually learn to hide this aspect of themselves or control it more and channel the energy into artistic/creative pursuits.


And don't underestimate the power of the ASC and its ruler.

If the ASC is in conflict with the Moon/Sun, the person usually appears very differently than how they really are, or can have drastic changes in behaviour..

But anyway, the person you're talking about is very Mercurial, and an earth Mercury or Moon won't necessarily make them more emotional.. on the contrary.

The only thing could be their Pisces rising.

Is their Moon in the 7th?
It usually indicates someone very moody and indecisive in matters of love; and probably a lot of romantic partners.

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posted October 27, 2012 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The sign placement isn't as important as the aspects it makes.

If the Moon is connected to Mars or Pluto, chances are, the person will be more emotionally reactive than if there weren't these aspects.

If connected to Saturn, emotions will probably be hidden, rationalised or repressed. With Uranus, they'll be changing, erratic, "out of the blue" and difficult to integrate. Maybe some rationalizing, too.

Jupiter & Venus make emotional expression more pleasant, unless the aspects are hard. In that case oversentimentalty and bigger than life emotional displays are possible.

Neptune often makes someone emotionally unstable and/or confused, but these people usually learn to hide this aspect of themselves or control it more and channel the energy into artistic/creative pursuits.


And don't underestimate the power of the ASC and its ruler.

If the ASC is in conflict with the Moon/Sun, the person usually appears very differently than how they really are, or can have drastic changes in behaviour..

But anyway, the person you're talking about is very Mercurial, and an earth Mercury or Moon won't necessarily make them more emotional.. on the contrary.

The only thing could be their Pisces rising.

Is their Moon in the 7th?
It usually indicates someone very moody and indecisive in matters of love; and probably a lot of romantic partners.


Interesting. I have no idea about aspects. How would i go about finding this all out? I could give you his birthday.

His - 6/6/76 2:03 am Dallas Texas
Mine - 10/27/80 8:47 pm Dallas, Texas

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posted October 27, 2012 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Interesting. I have no idea about aspects. How would i go about finding this all out? I could give you his birthday.

His - 6/6/76 2:03 am Dallas Texas
Mine - 10/27/80 8:47 pm Dallas, Texas


Yes,you called it! His moon is in the 7th. Kind of a lost cause, hu?

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posted October 27, 2012 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, happy solar return! Didn't know it was your birthday today!


I'm not on my computer now so I can't take a look at your synastry but maybe you should post it in the Personal Readings forum, that'd be easier / more appropriate.

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posted October 27, 2012 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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All the better then!

We can be serious sometimes too, you know (briefly). lol

Drama and "interesting" scenarios are almost just as good.


Still good even if it's overly emotional drama felt by both parties? I know I still see it as interesting, even though exhausting.

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posted October 27, 2012 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i want to be in committed relationships. but i can move on quickly. that's the one thing i notice about my venus

but then again i wouldn't be dating someone who i didn't want to commit to in the first place (although just working towards it initially, obviously)

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posted October 28, 2012 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You sound like a great combination to me! :-) Thanks for explaining that. The things you describe feeling sound similar to virgos I know except you have all the emotion too. Funny that after asking you this I found out my daughter has a Virgo moon! How do you feel about people with fire moons?

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I've never been asked that question before! I think it's a good quality to have - seeing how I'm mostly a ball of intense emotion - so it levels me out. I really do need a safe kind of love. Takes a while to trust someone before I let them in completely. When I do, I take of them and things like you wouldn't believe. It truly is how I show I care. Also, on the downside, it does make me extremely analytical and a bit on the perfectionist side. But over all, I think it does anchor me down a bit!

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posted October 28, 2012 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you. Feel that way too.

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Originally posted by ail221:
I have a Venus in Gemini and I wouldn't necessarily say I am fickle I just don't like jumping into relationships erratically I rather stay single than entering a relationship with someone who may care more for me than I do with them. Why bother hurting someone inadvertently rather than waiting.

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posted October 28, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious Bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Doux Reve - you just explained my Leo moon thats on a 1-2 day emotional delay. Moon square Saturn + Moon square Neptune!

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The sign placement isn't as important as the aspects it makes.

If the Moon is connected to Mars or Pluto, chances are, the person will be more emotionally reactive than if there weren't these aspects.

If connected to Saturn, emotions will probably be hidden, rationalised or repressed. With Uranus, they'll be changing, erratic, "out of the blue" and difficult to integrate. Maybe some rationalizing, too.

Jupiter & Venus make emotional expression more pleasant, unless the aspects are hard. In that case oversentimentalty and bigger than life emotional displays are possible.

Neptune often makes someone emotionally unstable and/or confused, but these people usually learn to hide this aspect of themselves or control it more and channel the energy into artistic/creative pursuits.


And don't underestimate the power of the ASC and its ruler.

If the ASC is in conflict with the Moon/Sun, the person usually appears very differently than how they really are, or can have drastic changes in behaviour..

But anyway, the person you're talking about is very Mercurial, and an earth Mercury or Moon won't necessarily make them more emotional.. on the contrary.

The only thing could be their Pisces rising.

Is their Moon in the 7th?
It usually indicates someone very moody and indecisive in matters of love; and probably a lot of romantic partners.


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posted October 28, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Curious Bull:
You sound like a great combination to me! :-) Thanks for explaining that. The things you describe feeling sound similar to virgos I know except you have all the emotion too. Funny that after asking you this I found out my daughter has a Virgo moon! How do you feel about people with fire moons?



Curious, so how would you describe moon in Virgo? The people I know with a fire moon seem to be very expressive with their feelings. But then again, most I know are Leo moons - dramatic reactions with emotions.

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posted October 28, 2012 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have gemini venus with a virgo moon and im deeply loving, loyal and maybe in the past ive been fickle but not now! My mars only aspects my uranus, and my moon is unaspected in 12th house...im very emotional, but my venus conjunct pluto in 1st opposed 7th house chiron and eros/valentine on IC gives a lot of emotions....i think checking for emotional asteroids, where they fall is esp telling...anything saturn aspects will restrict the flow of the planet/asteroid!

I know for me, despite my gemini mars, im ready for something long term, ready for doing the work to make it last forever and forget other men even exist! I actually want to focus purely on this one love and want to make adjustments to make sure it will last until death!

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posted October 28, 2012 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have gemini venus with a virgo moon and im deeply loving, loyal and maybe in the past ive been fickle but not now! My mars only aspects my uranus, and my moon is unaspected in 12th house...im very emotional, but my venus conjunct pluto in 1st opposed 7th house chiron and eros/valentine on IC gives a lot of emotions....i think checking for emotional asteroids, where they fall is esp telling...anything saturn aspects will restrict the flow of the planet/asteroid!

I know for me, despite my gemini mars, im ready for something long term, ready for doing the work to make it last forever and forget other men even exist! I actually want to focus purely on this one love and want to make adjustments to make sure it will last until death!


How do I find out all these different aspects? I desperately care about this man but I've got to slove this puzzle to find out what's really going on here.

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posted October 28, 2012 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How do I find out all these different aspects? I desperately care about this man but I've got to slove this puzzle to find out what's really going on here.

eros, valentine, aphrodite, psyche, cupido,karma,child, dejanira,union,amor
433,447,1388,16,763,3811,4580,157,1585,1221

I would start by looking at these, they are sensitivities and needs in ppl when they aspect important places, sun, moon, venus, mars, chiron, even neptune because neptune conjunctions, oppositions, squares can make your perception of reality off...make sure and look at the angles, IC is a very tender place, liken to your core, deepest emotions and needs, also fears! I have my eros/valentine on this point and love affects me deeply, so deeply it takes me a long time to recover over a loss and for awhile i'm sure i will never be able to open back up to love again...then when i start to fall in love i freak out, feeling the loss all over again and i have to fight wanting to end everything and walk away! LOL
So these places can have a profound affect on someone esp regading love.
My chiron also opposes my venus, another reason im fearful of love, but when someone like me falls in love we are in it for life! But many ppl wouldnt think that because my fear never let me get to that place!
Sometimes the distance isnt because they can't love, its because they love so deeply they are terrified of opening up and then losing it again!
chiron, child, dejanira, IC are very vulnerable points in a chart...look for aspects in his chart to these places and compare your chart to see if your triggering his sensitive points...its a place to start as you try to understand him and his needs.

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posted October 28, 2012 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No.

I will always be interested in new things, and I can unfortunately take things for granted at times, but my Moon is conjunct Venus, and I can be very happy with what I already have.

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posted October 28, 2012 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AstroNewb69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweettouch:
How about if this Venus in Gemini had a Cancer Sun and Mars, and a Taurus Moon? Would this Gemini in Venus be a little more loyal and stable?

I know some Gemini Suns who got a Cancer Moon, and they die for one person only.


This rings true for me.

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Cancer Sun
Gemini Moon
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posted October 28, 2012 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
eros, valentine, aphrodite, psyche, cupido,karma,child, dejanira,union,amor
433,447,1388,16,763,3811,4580,157,1585,1221

I would start by looking at these, they are sensitivities and needs in ppl when they aspect important places, sun, moon, venus, mars, chiron, even neptune because neptune conjunctions, oppositions, squares can make your perception of reality off...make sure and look at the angles, IC is a very tender place, liken to your core, deepest emotions and needs, also fears! I have my eros/valentine on this point and love affects me deeply, so deeply it takes me a long time to recover over a loss and for awhile i'm sure i will never be able to open back up to love again...then when i start to fall in love i freak out, feeling the loss all over again and i have to fight wanting to end everything and walk away! LOL
So these places can have a profound affect on someone esp regading love.
My chiron also opposes my venus, another reason im fearful of love, but when someone like me falls in love we are in it for life! But many ppl wouldnt think that because my fear never let me get to that place!
Sometimes the distance isnt because they can't love, its because they love so deeply they are terrified of opening up and then losing it again!
chiron, child, dejanira, IC are very vulnerable points in a chart...look for aspects in his chart to these places and compare your chart to see if your triggering his sensitive points...its a place to start as you try to understand him and his needs.


Thank you for the information! Is there a website you'd recommend where I could do his chart and they'd explain the information/these aspects to me?

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posted October 28, 2012 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astro.com/

section"your free horoscope"
#2- gives "extended chart" option
enter birth data
under"methods"
please select type of chart--hit down arrow to get different options, you want a "synastry" chart

go all the way down to the "additional objects"
choose vertex, chiron, juno,

then copy and paste the asteroid numbers, from my post, in the box at the very bottom of the page...
it wont give a description but you can post your chart or questions about the aspects you find!

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posted October 28, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini Descendant people are worse in the relationship department for this than Gemini Venus, IMO.

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posted October 28, 2012 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Gemini Descendant people are worse in the relationship department for this than Gemini Venus, IMO.

Seriously? OMG! I only knew 1 gemini venus and he was bad about this but his saggy neptune and pisces mars both squared his gemini venus by a couple degrees between all!

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posted October 28, 2012 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most Gemini Venus people are about as faithful as any Venus sign.

A Gemini DSC shows how people will behave in a relationship and also what type people or what type of relationship they will have or lean toward.

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posted October 28, 2012 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
http://www.astro.com/

section"your free horoscope"
#2- gives "extended chart" option
enter birth data
under"methods"
please select type of chart--hit down arrow to get different options, you want a "synastry" chart

go all the way down to the "additional objects"
choose vertex, chiron, juno,

then copy and paste the asteroid numbers, from my post, in the box at the very bottom of the page...
it wont give a description but you can post your chart or questions about the aspects you find!


Thank you!

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