posted July 19, 2013 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Because maybe I'm bored just like he is? I've never dated just for fun and have always looked for something serious and never found it, so I'm switching it up.

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posted July 19, 2013 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesKat:

yea your only doing that because you think thats what he wants.....I dont want you to take my advice hanna unless it really suits you and you feel its right for you. But from the outside looking in its seems like he is playing. You intially wanted a relationship but changed your mind to suit him?

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posted July 19, 2013 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Because maybe I'm bored just like he is? I've never dated just for fun and have always looked for something serious and never found it, so I'm switching it up.

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what if he changees his mind and wants a relationship? will you then want one too?

posted July 19, 2013 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm secure enough that I won't have a beer if I don't want one, lol. I'm attracted to him, can't help that. And I like the chase up to a certain point. Yes, it is reaching that point at a lightening speed but I'm being patient and not putting all my eggs into this basket.

Also, can anyone bring this back around to astrology? We know for sure he's interested, we just aren't sure how much, so what do Moon in Sagittarius / Venus in Aquarius look for? The first things that came to mind was space because of Jupiter and Uranus, and the second thing was how two sort of oppose each other. As others have mentioned the Sag sign in general can be very traditional, and Aquarius tends to always want to rebel - so how do these two mix when theorizing the type of women they're into?

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posted July 19, 2013 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Aqua Venus has its own weird ways.

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posted July 19, 2013 09:48 PM            

Since Uranus has been transiting over my Sun (I can't remember the degree of your Sun!) - I've had some odd experiences.
Something similar happened with a so-called friend.. He has an Aries Moon conj my Sun and T. Uranus.
For the past couple of years I have often been friendly and nice.. and always open to having a conversation. He was always awkward and generally standoff-ish. His behaviour was not just shy... but literally being a jerk and a snob.
I was patient with him because I saw him as a bit 'delusional' ... and maybe too 'loony' to realise what he's doing.
I have never been attracted to him but I wanted to be friends.

Anyway, two weeks ago, unexpectedly he tells me he has always liked me and that he thought we've always had a connection... and that he is so upset that we are not together. He will be studying in Berlin for the next few months and he wanted to get together before he leaves because he is apparently scared he'll never see me again.
When I explained that I'm not sure I could 'like' him that way.. but that I want to hang out as friends - He was very anti-hanging out.
I mean what kind of person who apparently "likes" me so much and has liked me for years.. who is scared that we won't ever see each other again - would turn down hanging out as friends??

So, looking back on our conversation I realised he was basically BS-ing and that he just wanted sex. Because this was a perfect situation for him to have sex with me no strings, since he is leaving soon.
The other dead give-away was that he did not ask me out on a "date".. but rather asked me to virtually move in with him, at his place for the week or two weeks before he leaves.
So he was literally saying - I want a fling. I want sex.

Honestly - my opinion is now... if they ask you to come over their place or ask you to drive TO somewhere near their place... they think you are a bootie call and they want "some". If they wanted to date, if they really liked you - they would ask you out on a proper date to a proper place... because they are NOT that stupid.

It's the exact same situation almost... Because when I said - why don't we have dinner @X... to 'hang out' and catch up before he leaves - he said 'No' and said it would only make him sad.... basically 'sad' because we would not be sexing!

So going on a proper date or hanging out as friends makes him sad, but asking me to come over and have sex makes him perfectly happy.
I am not offended since I have never even had a crush on this guy and I could care less about him - but it's pretty lame.

In his case - he was definitely not playing a game. He simply wanted me at his place - to have sex... and he did not want to do anything else, non-sexual with me.
This was just the reality of the situation.. Not a game!

posted July 19, 2013 09:52 PM            

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he invited me to drive allllll the way up to where he lives (about an hour and a half drive) just to go to some lame biker bar.

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But just *think* about this for a sec...
WHY would he invite you to drive all the way up to where the lives.... just to go to that bar???
Does that even make sense?

I mean obviously he wanted you to go over his place..

Talk about being full of himself.
It sounds like a guy who thinks "She should be so happy I want to sleep with her.. she should jump at the opportunity and drive hours just to be with me".

Like I hope he gets the H.. over himself.

posted July 19, 2013 09:58 PM            

In a way it's a game, but he is not acting this way randomly, because he's a jerk or bored. It's because he is annoyed you wouldn't come visit.

posted July 19, 2013 10:07 PM            

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This aggravated him, so after that his coldness became apparent. He's expressing his resentment at your refusal to visit.

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I don't think he is necessarily annoyed or aggravated.
He stuck out his 'fishing rod' so to speak and he didn't catch anything.

He *tried* to get her into bed and it didn't work out for him... so he probably realised she will be too much trouble, because she is harder to get than he thought.
If he is lame enough and lazy enough - he will just stop trying now.
I've met other sexually lazy Taurus Mars guys... just saying.

Because now - when she is asking him out - obviously she wants an actual date.. which is conductive to a friendship, to talking, to getting closer, to an actual relationship.

posted July 19, 2013 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I'm secure enough that I won't have a beer if I don't want one, lol. I'm attracted to him, can't help that. And I like the chase up to a certain point. Yes, it is reaching that point at a lightening speed but I'm being patient and not putting all my eggs into this basket.

Also, can anyone bring this back around to astrology? We know for sure he's interested, we just aren't sure how much, so what do Moon in Sagittarius / Venus in Aquarius look for? The first things that came to mind was space because of Jupiter and Uranus, and the second thing was how two sort of oppose each other. As others have mentioned the Sag sign in general can be very traditional, and Aquarius tends to always want to rebel - so how do these two mix when theorizing the type of women they're into?

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posted July 19, 2013 10:09 PM            

But if she asks him to 'hang out' - that's when he'll say "No".

Just my opinion.

posted July 19, 2013 10:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Starlight -

I don't think he is necessarily annoyed or aggravated.
He stuck out his 'fishing rod' so to speak and he didn't catch anything.

He *tried* to get her into bed and it didn't work out for him... so he probably realised she will be too much trouble, because she is harder to get than he thought.
If he is lame enough and lazy enough - he will just stop trying now.
I've met other sexually lazy Taurus Mars guys... just saying.

Because now - when she is asking him out - obviously she wants an actual date.. which is conductive to a friendship, to talking, to getting closer, to an actual relationship.

Him turning this down ^ is not necessarily because he is annoyed or because he is playing a game..... but because he simply doesn't want something serious.

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posted July 19, 2013 10:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I mean if Hannah asked him to come over her place tonight - I don't think he would say "No".. and I doubt it would take him under 5 min to reply.

But if she asks him to 'hang out' - that's when he'll say "No".

Just my opinion.

I might be overly critical... but that's how I'm seeing it.

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I agree

posted July 19, 2013 11:33 PM            

It's a lot of conflicting energies to begin with so he might be difficult to read, but I think what you said about knowing he really is interested is true, if he flat out said he likes you and has opened up to you like that, it's probably genuine. It's a risk to be that vulnerable-or vulnerable at all lol for Cap sun/ Aqua venus (pathetic I know), so maybe when you declined and said you just wanted to be friends he was hurt more than he let on and has retreated into the whole detached Aqua Venus thing of sure we'll be friends but from a safe distance. Then throw in the icy Cap front and it might be hard to get him to open up again for a bit.

Sag/Aqua needs space, but for me at least that just means space within the relationship, not that I need to be dating multiple people or playing games like that. I want the relationship to be based on common interests other than just emotions-especially for Sag moon having similar intellectual interests/beliefs is important. It's how we filter our emotions so also how other people can get to them most directly. Sag is always "looking forward" so that's where staying stagnant for too long feels suffocating, but that doesn't mean we can't commit, just that we want someone we can grow and change with. Aqua gets a bad rap too but it's still a fixed sign and I think generally once we commit to someone it's not something taken lightly. But I think sometimes people don't understand why Aqua venus would rather take an interesting companion in a relationship over steamy affairs or sappy emotional connections, which is generally how the "ideal" of romance is portrayed... So again, him actually saying he likes you is big cause we're not the type inclined to grand romantic gestures

Aside from all that... this might sound like a cop-out, and I'm not defending his actions at all, but you should look at his transits. tSaturn is squaring my Venus opp Leo Jupiter right now and it's hard to feel optimistic about love or much else atm. I've been pretty isolated for a few months now and it's been hard to even stay involved with the people I'm closest with let alone build new relationships, but I know it comes off as being flakey and I really do feel guilty about it. And tNeptune could be squaring his moon (depending on the degree), which doesn't help.

posted July 20, 2013 12:11 AM            

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I'm not defending his actions at all, but you should look at his transits.

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To ask her to drive an hour and a half to go over his place and have sex with him - after getting drunk at a shady nearby pub?

Is there a "being a jerk" transit?

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Actually - I just realised (the obvious!!)

Starlight was just saying.. "then he would casually tell you it's a long drive back, would you like to stay the night. "

It just occurred to me that if they had a few drinks at the pub... it wouldn't just be a matter of whether she wanted to stay over.. She would have to stay over if she had too much alcohol to drive back. So that must've been his plan..
OMG. Just OMG. WHAT a ...... *I'll stop myself.. because the names I want to call him would not be appropriate on LL*

The more I think about it now, the more I am actually very upset that any guy out there would behave this way.

posted July 20, 2013 12:19 AM            

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sorry we are such difficult people lol!!

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posted July 20, 2013 12:38 AM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
[B]Sooo I probably have the same birthday as this guy lol cause I'm a Cap Sun, Sag moon/merc, Aqua Venus, Taurus mars and I'm also 22. Do you know his ASC?[b]

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posted July 20, 2013 01:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Men with Capricorn, Aquarius, and Sagittarius influences.........stay away.

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posted July 20, 2013 03:28 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Okay, this Capricorn guy has liked me for a few months now (and his Sag Moon and Sag Mercury made that quite obvious; Venus in Aquarius and Mars in Taurus for good measure.) and finally confessed it to me last week. But then he went cold by not responding to my texts, and when I invited him out to the lake to hang out, he declined... but still wanted to know if a couple things about me were true (facts like - am I writing a book, and do I read Tarot cards).

What gives? If you like someone, don't you jump at the chance to spend time with them? We've never hung out outside of work, but prior to my invitation he invited me to drive allllll the way up to where he lives (about an hour and a half drive) just to go to some lame biker bar.

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Hanna,I think the same way ( if I like someone I automatically would want to hang out with him) BUT I have learned not everyone thinks the same way. Actually NOW I have modified my way of thinking. When I like someone I HAVE to make myself become more cautious for fear of getting hurt.

Anyways am not going to make this about me.

This guy seem to like you,he made it obvious to you. Good enough. I don't think he is playing games with you. I think he has his own issues.I think may be it's HARD for HIM to read YOU.

posted July 20, 2013 04:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
To ask her to drive an hour and a half to go over his place and have sex with him - after getting drunk at a shady nearby pub?

Is there a "being a jerk" transit?

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Actually - I just realised (the obvious!!)

Starlight was just saying.. "then he would casually tell you it's a long drive back, would you like to stay the night. "

It just occurred to me that if they had a few drinks at the pub... it wouldn't just be a matter of whether she wanted to stay over.. She would have to stay over if she had too much alcohol to drive back. So that must've been his plan..
OMG. Just OMG. WHAT a ...... *I'll stop myself.. because the names I want to call him would not be appropriate on LL*

The more I think about it now, the more I am actually very upset that any guy out there would behave this way.

And I'm so glad Hannarama - for your own safety, that you said no.
When I first wrote my post - it didn't completely click to me how nasty his behaviour was.
But honestly - It is pretty nasty!

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Ok I don't know all the circumstances so I'll refrain from judging him or Hanna... If this was after he confessed his feeling and she said she just wanted to be friends then he probably doesn't want to just invite himself over to where she lives, and "meeting half way" to hang out one-on-one would seem a bit similar to a date, so I guess it's still a gesture right? Or a very unintelligent form of manipulation lol. But really it makes sense that going to a bar sounds more casual than dinner, or a movie, or mini golf or whatever... Capricorns can be cowards when it comes to being direct with emotions what can I say. And if he just wanted sex he could probably find it in much closer proximity without jeopardizing a relationship with someone he works with imo

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Yes, it's Scorpio. I do like him, I just wanted to take it slow and I should have said that. How would you respond to a fickle person like that, FM?

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