posted July 24, 2013 01:20 PM            

@Lotis White - Wow, you have a good memory! Yes, Taurus moon at 9.57 degrees in the 11th. I feel like he controls that "no filter" thing Mercury in Sags are famous for, around me. So far he hasn't hurt my feelings with his bluntness, more his actions.

posted July 24, 2013 09:40 PM            

He is a complete lameO.. He has two kids by two different women at this age.

He does not know how to treat a girl and ask her out on a proper date. Apparently he thinks with his pee pee.
And I can't believe you even said he was not "that crafty" --

Hello!!! He has TWO KIDS - Dudette!!!!!!!!

Are you having some kind of weird Neptune transit? I feel like you are being highly unrealistic here.

Can you please - for the love of God - go out with someone who deserves you?
You are young. You are attractive. You are intelligent. Why in the world would you waste your time and energy playing games with this LOSER?

He is a TOTAL FLIPPING LOSER.

Please go out there - have fun in life - and find a guy who is worth your time!

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I want to play him back, and play him BETTER, you know? On behalf of womankind!

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This is completely ridiculous.

posted July 24, 2013 09:43 PM            

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And if I change my mind, who cares?

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Let me change my initial answer here to...

I CARE because it sh*ts me off that a person who is young, intelligent and healthy - who could do absolutely anything with her time and her life - is even talking about such a flipping LOSER on this website.. and still thinking about him after all these days.

posted July 24, 2013 10:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Let me change my initial answer here to...

I CARE because it sh*ts me off that a person who is young, intelligent and healthy - who could do absolutely anything with her time and her life - is even talking about such a flipping LOSER on this website.. and still thinking about him after all these days.

& I don't even care if you find my posts intense - because I have perfectly good reasons to have an intense reaction here.

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I completely agree!!

With everything you said!

posted July 24, 2013 10:20 PM            

At the end of the day, you guys were and are right. I didn't feel like I was "settling," because I was attracted to him and he had qualities I liked. Lately my love life has just been tanking, my job sucks, and I'm incredibly bored with school. So this guy comes along who I'm physically attracted to and is actually forward with me, tells me he likes me, opens up to me somewhat (like normal people experience what seems like alllll the time), who I can READ easily and talk to easily, and I just thought, "Okay." I wasn't banking on "forever" with him, ever! And I liked that it wasn't ME who liked HIM more, which is usually the case. There's ALWAYS something when it comes to the people I'm attracted to and I was just tired of it. Just really tired.

posted July 24, 2013 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesKat:
I didnt want to be right Hanna...just didnt wanna see A girl especially an Aries girl go through hard ache or pain. I hope your ok...its not a loss because there wasnt nothing to begin with.

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posted July 24, 2013 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Thanks AriesKat, I know everyone was just helping and trying to save me time, but I'm stubborn. I'm okay. My life is just incredibly boring and I feel stuck. I have hobbies I love, but I don't have money to invest IN those hobbies and I'm trying to find fulfillment in life so that it's not as painstaking.

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posted July 25, 2013 04:28 AM            

Saturn/Pluto Conjunction and sextile on Cap Sun- Wow! This is a person with a lot of resolve (Saturn) but also strong emotions (Pluto).

He also has Pluto sitting on the Ascendant; a strongly emotional nature indeed. And the fact that his Ascendant ruler (Mars) is in the 7th house- relationships and being with others is where his life is geared towards.

His relationships are strongly coloured by Mars in Taurus: Taurus is sensual, yes, but if in Mars, it is easier for the individual to express the more aggressive qualities of Taurus; stubbornness, greediness, die-hard attitude towards own beliefs, extreme conservatism, hedonism and a self-serving attitude etc. His friendships are endearing but tempestuous.

Mars opposes Pluto ; extreme emotional expression: Stand offs, silent treatments, vengefulness, forcefulness and an extreme reaction towards perceived threats. He hates not getting his way and will be sure to do all he must so that he can. He can keep a grudge and remember an injury for a long time to come.

The opposition works together with Mars-trine Saturn:

Good self-control and an ability to see things through to the end. Good reserves (Saturn) for pursuing (Mars) what one desires. The frustration may come due to it not coming as quickly as one wants it (Mars-Pluto opposition). He needs to learn more patience.

Venus (in 3rd)-Jupiter (in 9th) opposition denotes someone who wants to cover as much ground as possible (9th) in as quick a time as possible (3rd):

This does not bode well for a stable love-life-unfortunately. He falls in-love at-least 10 times a day as Jupiter-Venus square means that one idealizes(Jupiter) the lover(Venus) or at-least falls in-love with the next pretty face(Jupiter-Venus square) without looking into the substance of the individual concerned.

His love-life can become a series of superficial disappointments and frustration. He has to gain more clarity into what he wants from a lover.

He may also have many creative talents but “split” into which one he should develop (so he does them all at once and spreads himself too thin).

This attraction to all that is fleeting is also signified by Moon-Mercury conjunction (in 2nd). He values (2nd) change, variety and novelty (Mercury) in his everyday life (Moon). He may be drawn to people who are changeable and have many facets of their personalities (Moon); the more expressive and animated, the better (Mercury).

All in all, I see someone with an extreme nature that may have to sort out his priorities. He may put all his energies into relationships and endeavours that’ll spread him thin. He needs to learn to focus on one thing at a time and get back to planet earth.

There is a compulsion towards rage and anger that flares up unexpectedly. Most people see him as emotionally intense but also extremely changeable.

posted July 25, 2013 10:09 AM            

I've definitely seen the Mars/Pluto side to him. When he hit on me the first time, I rebuffed it (playfully) and he got mad, and he got rather harsh with me. That was before I even saw his chart and I immediately thought "He's gotta be a Sag!" We're also in a stand-off, I guess? With the exception he doesn't know that I'm over this whole situation (Sure, I'm talking about it here, but I mean in person.)
Mars opp. Pluto hates not getting their way? So is this a rather immature aspect then?

He's more patient than I am, though. *Shrug.*

I don't know that he falls in love 10 times a day...not that I would put it past him, but he does seem to have a preference. He HAS said flat out he loves all women too though (there's that "changeability")

Why does Moon conj. Mercury indicate a fleeting attraction? Oh, because the attraction (moon) is connected to the mind and both of them are in Sag? Or would it be fleeting anyway no matter the sign it's in?

Sorting out his priorities is right. I just realized he had started this whole thing on a Friday night at his friend's birthday party... and he lives at home with his parents who take care of his children. YUCK! Why would you be out at a party when you have kids at home?!

posted July 26, 2013 07:12 AM            

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Also, I noticed the Sun conjunct Neptune aspect after I posted that! So I agree, that's probably a large factor. I guess I want to know what makes people with this aspect fall into drug and alcohol addictions and other people don't. Is it hard to abstain from them if someone has this aspect, and could this also contribute to why I never believed his exaggerated stories?

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Ok I feel like I can't just stop responding to this thread since besides the houses and moon-merc conjunction I have pretty much the same chart as him, and this is pretty much a roast of it lol (well deserved I realize) but I'll just give my take on a few of the aspects (not house placements) and hope it offers some sort of insight..

Sun conjunct Neptune/Saturn

Neptune is escapism, illusions, hazy boundaries, etc.. so align that with your Sun (core identity, ego, etc..) and it's like having one foot in reality, one in a different world entirely, mind-altering substances and addictions can easily become a connection to the abyss lol

Then add in his conjunction with Saturn-which is everything Neptune isn't... hard-cold reality, consequences with no excuses or cutting corners, etc.. and it's a difficult tug-of war. Saturn just intensifies all the guilt of an addict imo for wanting to "escape" and not living up to necessary responsibilities... not being an up to par, living-breathing resume lol. Not many people are harder on themselves than a Cap Sun conjunct Saturn and it's difficult to ask for help or admit to "failure"

Venus-Jupiter

Aside from being a self-indulgent aspect in general, I've read this can mean having a mother who was ashamed of, or didn't relate in some fundamental way to her "femininity" so for girls it can translate as a hatred or dislike for that part of herself- I'm not a "girly-girl" I don't want to be just a pretty "housewife", etc.. For guys, this inability to relate to the "feminine" can yeah sometimes translate as a cold mistreatment of women. Literally of the 3 guys I know born within a few days of me, 2 are openly gay, 1 is what you would definitely consider a sleazy "player"

Mars-Pluto

I don't see Mars opposite Pluto as an immature, or flying off the handle aggressive aspect. Control freak? Probably. Cry-baby, show all my cards out of anger? Probably not. Remember every little slight, sure, but it's more the silent but deadly, slow brewing type of vengeance. And since it's an opposition it's often expressed through other people- (sub-consciously or otherwise) engaging with aggressive/abusive individuals to play out the power battle and feel "justified" in such strong emotions or anger

So for whatever it's worth that's my take on his chart and issues... But really I still agree with everyone if you know he has more problems than he's worth you should steer clear of this guy and all of his baggage, not worth getting yourself entangled in all of that!

posted July 27, 2013 12:21 AM            

Yeah...it took a combination of LL members, strangers, friends but I finally "get" it. I don't know what I was thinking! I really don't. I wonder if this was my 7H Uranus and Neptune trining my 11H Moon acting up? t.Uranus IS sitting over my Aries stellium too. I don't know. I'm repulsed by him now. A small part of me wants him to know that, but overall it's not even important and I just need to be civil and act like nothing happened. I'm trying to find another job anyway, so it will be behind me soon enough.

Interesting! I didn't think about the negative consequences of Sun conjunct Saturn (with his Sun already in Capricorn.) I saw that and thought "Well, he'd be doubly stable." Nope! Yes, his low self-esteem is apparent but it confused me because then he would act so sure of himself.

Venus-Jupiter, his mother is very heavy and he said she's crazy. He also admitted to having mommy issues after I psychoanalyzed him, so who knows what went on. She seems normal to me. I knew other Venus in Sagittarius people, three if I remember correctly. One had self-esteem issues in high school and now his Leo moon is very pronounced, and he's arrogant. Also goes through relationships like a breeze. The other Venus in Sagittarius I know doesn't seem to go through them as easy. He has Venus conjunct Saturn and Uranus though, and seems more content to be by himself. Those two men were close with their mothers. Wouldn't anything to do with mothers be associated with the Moon though? Confused how Jupiter correlates.

I agree, Mars-Pluto would definitely not show their cards out of anger! That sounds more like Mars in Cancer. I sort of understand this because I have Mars inconjunct Pluto, AND Mars in the 12th house. I can totally relate to what you said about a slow brewing vengeance.