posted July 22, 2013 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
^ I wouldn't play back.

After all is said and done the participants of this thread only know what I'm willing to explain. Yeah, the fact everyone is so eager to bash him 'cause he didn't do this and that bothered me! He wasn't a doucebag before I said I just wanted to be friends, hence I feel this is him expressing his disappointment. I'm not head over heels for him, so I don't know why this is being treated so adamantly, like I have to agree with you or I'm a stupid girl who's getting taken advantage of - especially when I haven't had sex with him. And if I change my mind, who cares? I change my mind on a daily basis and my feelings often follow. Is that okay with you?

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posted July 22, 2013 10:04 PM            

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where I actually liked the girl but I withdrew because she cancelled the date and counter offered like 30 minutes before the date

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ummmm ..... Was the date you asked her to go on -- at a 'lame' biker bar near your place - far from where she lives?

Hannah -

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And if I change my mind, who cares?

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You were very smart about this whole thing. As I said I'm glad you said 'No' to him.
If you do change your mind - it's up to you obviously.

I would only 'care' - if you ended up in a situation where he sleeps with you and then acts like a jerk the next day, which you seem not to expect from him at all - and which would hit you like a ton of bricks (& you likely do not realise that now).

But ^ since you seem very level headed and you are not all that into him.. I doubt anything like this will happen anyway.
That's the only thing anyone here would be worried about & probably the reason why some of our replies are 'intense'.

About casual dating & casual sex in general - It can be fun for some, specially for people with a lot of masculine signs in their chart like Aries/Gemini.... It can be a happy and enjoyable experience, but *not* with someone who has -no respect- for you and can make you feel *this* small..
In my opinion - there's a good chance that - this is the kind of person this guy is.

Whether you spend one day or one night or one week or a lifetime with someone - they SHOULD treat you properly and with respect.

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can't believe I'm the first one suggesting this but maybe he was freaked out by your interest in tarot and astrology, most people will tend to do that. IDK though that's just the impression I get from reading your post.

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posted July 22, 2013 10:51 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
^ I wouldn't play back.

After all is said and done the participants of this thread only know what I'm willing to explain. Yeah, the fact everyone is so eager to bash him 'cause he didn't do this and that bothered me! He wasn't a doucebag before I said I just wanted to be friends, hence I feel this is him expressing his disappointment. I'm not head over heels for him, so I don't know why this is being treated so adamantly, like I have to agree with you or I'm a stupid girl who's getting taken advantage of - especially when I haven't had sex with him. And if I change my mind, who cares? I change my mind on a daily basis and my feelings often follow. Is that okay with you?

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posted July 22, 2013 10:57 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
^ I wouldn't play back.

After all is said and done the participants of this thread only know what I'm willing to explain. Yeah, the fact everyone is so eager to bash him 'cause he didn't do this and that bothered me! He wasn't a doucebag before I said I just wanted to be friends, hence I feel this is him expressing his disappointment. I'm not head over heels for him, so I don't know why this is being treated so adamantly, like I have to agree with you or I'm a stupid girl who's getting taken advantage of - especially when I haven't had sex with him. And if I change my mind, who cares? I change my mind on a daily basis and my feelings often follow. Is that okay with you?

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posted July 22, 2013 11:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
VenusinCap -

LoL. Just LoL.

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posted July 22, 2013 11:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
^ I wouldn't play back.

After all is said and done the participants of this thread only know what I'm willing to explain. Yeah, the fact everyone is so eager to bash him 'cause he didn't do this and that bothered me! He wasn't a doucebag before I said I just wanted to be friends, hence I feel this is him expressing his disappointment. I'm not head over heels for him, so I don't know why this is being treated so adamantly, like I have to agree with you or I'm a stupid girl who's getting taken advantage of - especially when I haven't had sex with him. And if I change my mind, who cares? I change my mind on a daily basis and my feelings often follow. Is that okay with you?

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posted July 22, 2013 11:22 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
What's so funny? I honestly think that is part of the reason. She specifically said he declined her invitation to hang out but wanted to know if its true that she reads tarot cards. Its common knowledge that most people frown upon using tarot cards because they associate that with witchcraft or the devil, but I shouldn't have to tell you that. I know this firsthand because some girls who were interested in me lost interest when they found out I'm seriously into astrology.

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posted July 22, 2013 11:36 PM            

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Its common knowledge that most people frown upon using tarot cards because they associate that with witchcraft or the devil

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posted July 22, 2013 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
wow well.. I don't know if that's the case... but if it is - he's an even bigger loser O_O

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posted July 22, 2013 11:49 PM            

The difference is.. they are against another individual's beliefs and they treat this individual differently for that reason (which is blatant discrimination!).

I have nothing against *their* beliefs. I am against the fact that they would choose to - discriminate.

Discrimination is not just immoral but also illegal.
The same person who chooses not to hang out with you because you are into astrology - could be the boss who chooses not to employ someone for the same reason.
^ Lawsuit waiting to happen..

posted July 23, 2013 02:15 AM            

Sun in Cap is already a position that has restrictive Saturn as a ruling planet of the Sun.But I also know that not all Capricorns are the "cold", "calculating" people that conventional textbooks say they are.

If the Capricorn concerned has aspects with Libra/Taurus/Cancer/Pisces planets, this may contradict much of what has ben written about the average Capricorn: Look out for this.

Also, I wouldn't bank my money on the Sagittarius moon not being promising for emotional commitment. Yes, Sagittarius energy dislikes restriction, but if the Capricorn has his Moon in Sagittarius aspecting Leo/Libra/Pisces, then things may not be as cut and dry as saying "he dislikes anything that ties him down".

Venus in Aquarius are not that great at expressing affection or emotion-prefering to treat you as a "friend" even when you two are way past the initial phases of getting to know one another.

But if this Venus in Aquarius has aspects to Taurus/Scorpio/Leo/Libra planets, then this energy may not be expressed in its pure entirety.In this case, if his Venus squares his Mars, there may be a lot of "push" "pull" with what he wants(Venus) and his method of expression(Mars).

In the first instance(Venus in Aquarius), he may prefer for things to remain platonic, light and conversational. He may want to get to know you as a person and express interest in how you think/reason.

In the second instance(Mars in Taurus), he may care just as much for good coversation and a grounded connection. But, he wants more than just platonic "high fives" and borderine flirting with words, he responds to touch and affection. There are instances where he just wants to physically express himself(hold you, caress you and even kiss you).

Taurus positions, including Mars in Taurus even when in platonic relationships, like to touch and be touched- for them its reassuring and affirming of the affection that you feel for them.

My Mother has Moon in Taurus opposed by Neptune/Mercury in Scorpio and though she does have hangups about giving her children physical affection, she often expresses it spontaneously sometimes and suprises me.

posted July 23, 2013 09:32 PM            

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Oh, another almost clone of mine

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posted July 24, 2013 01:26 AM            

I guess my only additional insight is that Scorpio ASC conjunct Pluto is all about control.. or lack-there-of (for him especially considering Pluto is chart ruler and his Mars opposition is in his 7th so it's probably very much related to relationships or partners). Since you have Aries planets they may fall in his 5th house so he's definitely attracted but may feel like you're "out of his control" which wouldn't be comfortable for him, hence the game playing...

posted July 24, 2013 03:37 AM            

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Ugghhh ok sorry I feel like I've been gone from this forum long enough that I've forgotten how to incorporate real astrology.

I guess my only additional insight is that Scorpio ASC conjunct Pluto is all about control.. or lack-there-of (for him especially considering Pluto is chart ruler and his Mars opposition is in his 7th so it's probably very much related to relationships or partners). Since you have Aries planets they may fall in his 5th house so he's definitely attracted but may feel like you're "out of his control" which wouldn't be comfortable for him, hence the game playing...

But that's all sorry for intruding on this thread lol

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Lol, there's no such thing as intruding on a thread!

posted July 24, 2013 03:58 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Lol, there's no such thing as intruding on a thread!

And I noticed he has Sun sextile Pluto too. It probably is about control, but like I said and other members here made me realize - it's a game. That's okay... I have Mars conj. ASC both in Gemini, and an Aries stellium. I love challenges like these! For a short time anyway.

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Yeah sextile is supposedly a harmonious aspect, but when it's Sun-Pluto it can still be pretty dark imo without the time/maturity to understand it. Anyway I'm glad you're a step ahead of his game, doesn't seem like you feel too threatened, and hopefully he might just learn something! lol

posted July 24, 2013 04:41 AM            

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Yeah sextile is supposedly a harmonious aspect, but when it's Sun-Pluto it can still be pretty dark imo without the time/maturity to understand it. Anyway I'm glad you're a step ahead of his game, doesn't seem like you feel too threatened, and hopefully he might just learn something! lol

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I mean, I feel stupid for not seeing it sooner and believing him, and texting him things I don't really mean (like telling him I liked him too.) But I've felt worse over someone before, so this is no big deal.

posted July 24, 2013 04:43 AM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
^^Also the same with Saturn/NN trine Mars.. He has all this energy (mars in his 7th house) that he wants to "responsibly" put into action, but again this takes time and maturity which he's probably not fully ready for

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posted July 24, 2013 05:20 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I mean, I feel stupid for not seeing it sooner and believing him, and texting him things I don't really mean (like telling him I liked him too.) But I've felt worse over someone before, so this is no big deal.

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Wait I'm sorry I guess I'm still confused on the facts and timeline of everything.. Do you really like this guy? And if so did you tell him this before or after he said he likes you? I'm not trying to judge whatsoever, it's totally my misunderstanding and I'm just trying to understand the whole picture...

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Is there anything in there that would explain having kids at an early age? Or drug use / alcohol abuse?

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Does this guy have kids??? Really I have no idea though, his 5th house ruler is in his 7th though so that's a pretty direct link between romantic relationships/partners and the house traditionally ruling children. Plus his 7th house ruler (mars) was squared by Neptune a couple years ago...

As for drug use/ alcohol abuse, I don't know, but I have all the same placements as him and was born a day or so before and I've been guilty at one point or another of both tbh.. Sun conjunct Neptune seems to be the classic aspect for addiction (although it's wide). He's probably Saturn-dominant on top of that. Transits are something to consider.. tSaturn in his 12th, tPluto conjunct his Uranus and Neptune, etc..

But if those are the sorts of issues he's facing I guess I can only say don't think twice about leaving him to deal with his own problems, trust yourself and don't get sucked into all of that! Which I'm sure you already know...

posted July 24, 2013 07:05 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
It's obvious now he's playing games. It kind of worked, but now that I realized it and have accepted it... *Shrug* I feel over it now, but I'm still curious about his chart.

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Hi Hannah,

Forgive me, I haven't read the entire thread, I've only gauged that you're having some issues with this guy.

I took a quick look at his chart. Whatever the case you are his 'type', even if this doesn't guarantee relationship success, and least you don't have to worry about that part. Assuming his birth time is correct?

He has an Aries 5th house ruled by Mars in Taurus... You are an Aries with Moon in Taurus.

His 7th house is Taurus, and Mars is in the 7th house... Again, he's drawn to Aries/Taurus combos.

He has Gemini on the 8th house cusp, and you are a Gemini Mars/Asc.

I think I remember your placements right. Is Your Moon at about 9 or 10 Taurus though? If so it will square his Jupiter/Venus opposition. Which means his relating style/and idealism/bluntness may hurt your feelings. However, his Uranus is in Capricorn trine your Moon which shows mutual friendliness and openess between you.

Unfortunately, I don't remember the rest of your degrees to tell any more of the synastry. Are you still interested in him or have you given up?