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Topic: What Moon sign of a male makes him DISLIKE strong women?
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Chief1
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posted July 24, 2015 12:24 AM
  
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chief1:
[b]How do you define a "strong woman"? I feel like a woman's strength is her sensitivity and intuition. The idea of the independent career driven woman being strong is just a feminist definition to me. That whole movement was started by a Cia agent. I understand women who gravitate towards that tho cus the feminine principle has been supressed for so long, in men too.
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PixieJane
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posted July 24, 2015 03:25 AM
I've admired the character of Dana Scully as someone strong, and generally speaking she's not loud, insensitive, nor disobedient. She can be these things when it's necessary but overall it's her ability to speak and think calmly even when emotions are strong and her ability to read people (without kowtowing to them or needing to give everybody a hug), and though she will defy her superiors when she thinks higher ideals are being sacrificed allowing gross injustices to come to pass she normally enforces the law and tries to stick to the rules as much as possible (so that disobedience is a last resort, but still an option when the stakes are high enough and she can justify it to herself).That is she's strong (not to be mistaken for invulnerable or a lone wolf or a shrew ordering minions about, and part of strength is being able to recover and not be cowed by one's own failings and to accept help even as she offers it), but she's also low key, aware (and generally polite unless there's reason not to be), and professional (which includes sticking to the rules--but not obeying all orders mindlessly or forgetting there's a spirit to the rules and laws to keep in mind when faced by those who would subvert and abuse the spirit by exploiting the letter of those laws and regulations). Here, this shows her character as I understand it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjwXtibAYk I show it partially for those unfamiliar with the character but also because I understand later on in the series (after Moulder disappears) she becomes a bit more like Xena the Warrior Princess with a vigilante streak but I never watched those episodes and am not keeping those in mind when I think of her. Oh, fun fact, when I was a teenager I had a crush on both of these characters (Scully & Moulder, and Gillian Anderson & David Duchovny who portrayed them)...I think my only celebrity crushes (the only one I can recall right now). IP: Logged |
erickaf
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posted July 24, 2015 03:36 AM
Some may disagree with me, but in my generation millennials (ages 22ish-34ish?) like independent and strong women. However, I think I know what the OP means by strong. There are men who do like the type A personality, assertive and aggressive, while others as the above poster pointed out like Dana Scully, quiet, resilient, doesn't need to say much can say what she wants with a word or two. I knew a guy with Sagittarius Sun/Moon who only liked 'dumb' women (his word), who had no backbone, who said yes to everything and liked to please, hence the older he got the younger his girlfriends got. Because he said 'young women are easier to mold'.
My ex had Moon in Aries, inconjunct Moon and square Neptune. He had a type and I was his type :-). I am private, terribly reserved but caring and nice to others, and I am shy too. He would never go for the loud, boisterous, 'wall-street' type of woman. Nice topic.IP: Logged |
visions
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posted July 24, 2015 04:56 AM
i am a taurus moon, and indeed i like traditional/obedient/submissive girl, i say something you obey, that's all, the counterpart is that you will have the luck to be with me. There is just some type of girl like girls doing phd highly smart like me that i put in another category, i respect them and the relationship is on another level i can make exception with them, i understand if they want autonomy and independance because of their high intellectual profile.But others is a totally whole different treatment, if you just make a mistake with me, disrespect, lie or cheat and anything else, you will be denied until the end of this life and the afterlife. i have heard : "oh i don't care about you" etc...then years after, i see same faces who used to laughed at me coming with tears, and they are still denied from me because i am saturnian you know, time is on my side, and make you understand who failed.i mean a girl who want to do what she wants, being with me but at the same time seeking pleasure in every other ways is very suspect i guess, not my kind of girl, because i feel there is some bit**y side there. i have not still forgive myself about a girl who was like that and cheated on me, i hate giving my prince d*** to girls like that. i feel soiled. IP: Logged |
DopGang
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posted July 24, 2015 06:40 AM
I think it would have to do with something other than moon. Dsc also but probably more than that too. I like "strong" types and I certainly attract them. Aries dsc (know what they want and go for it, etc)
It may seem odd but my biggest problem with submissive types is that I find it harder to trust them. Now, bossy, rude, disrespectful, impolite, etc. That's another matter. I can't think of anything positive that would counter that enough to get anywhere with me. That's a very quick way to find the exit. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted July 24, 2015 07:55 AM
Visions - Since you're a Taurus Moon... I have a question.. Just testing my theory...
Do you normally date women who are financially well off? Is this something that attracts you (whether they are wealthy themselves or come from a wealthy family)?IP: Logged |
visions
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posted July 24, 2015 08:19 AM
no i don't think ot wealth status of the women, i am more into her intellectual profile probably due to my mercury conjonction mars in 7th house. But as my taurus moon rules the 11th house i attract a lot of wealthy friends without knowing it or seeking it, i can tell you even that i quit a lot of friends who are rich and could support me in many ways (jupiter in 11th) because they didn't fit my ethics, i was even manipulated by them in some way and yeah i follow ethics and rules i am doing psychonalysis phd and if i see a world without morals and no manners, i stick to some personal code. its not because others are wicked and so that i have to be like them of course i have to suffer isolation by time with this behaviour, but i don't care i prefer few friends but good friends who is tune with my ideas and passion that plenty of shallow friends.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 24, 2015 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by visions:
i am a taurus moon, and indeed i like traditional/obedient/submissive girl, i say something you obey, that's all, the counterpart is that you will have the luck to be with me.
Does it require a special salute too? Why not adopting a dog instead? ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 24, 2015 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Nothing in a chart 'makes' someone dislike strong women. (...) But more likely, men who actually dislike strong women are revealing their own insecurity, and possibly a desire for at least a slight upper hand. You can't lay that on someone's birth chart. People have to mature and learn their response-ability -- boys and girls alike.
Early years men/women (parental) interaction models seem to play an important role in this, rather than the chart itself. ------------------
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Yanmorg
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posted July 24, 2015 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by Astra:
My ex has a Taurus moon and he likes traditional, obedient girls. I'm nothing like that, so he attempted to bully me into being obedient. It didn't work. Lol.
Same here. My ex was a Taurus Sun and Moon, Venus and Mars in Cancer. He had Pluto in opposition to his Sun and Moon along with many Uranus aspects to his personal both hard and soft and this describes him perfectly. His parents are the center of his universe, but he definitely has some power/ control issues. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 24, 2015 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by Chief1:
How do you define a "strong woman"? I feel like a woman's strength is her sensitivity and intuition. The idea of the independent career driven woman being strong is just a feminist definition to me. That whole movement was started by a Cia agent. I understand women who gravitate towards that tho cus the feminine principle has been supressed for so long, in men too.
 Feminism made equal rights for women and men possible. Such as the right to vote, have jobs, bank accounts, same salary, brought to your porch, to your mother, sister, wife and daughter, consequently, yourself. You owe all of this to a bunch of pioneers, just as it happens with all major social changes: we, the consumers, owe the comfort in our life to a small group of people who paid for those with their own comfort, freedom and sometimes their life. Such ignorance and ingratitude as you show here must really hurt. Or it should.
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visions
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posted July 24, 2015 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Does it require a special salute too?Why not adopting a dog instead?
sorry but i have some high standards in certain fields of my life. I know where i come from and i won't for sure pretend to some high life with luxury, perfect surroundings, being part of jet set etc...i am more of a loner, somewhat spiritual thinker, i spent a lot of time reading and i passed graduations till where i am now so i have some depth and i ask same from my partner and friends. You can be rich, you can be beautiful, if you are not high on your passion(and ofc a passion that deserve my interest ( not blabering bull**** like i heard on radio or on tv with so called star ) or got some erudition you won't be considered no matter what. A large part of my life has been to lower myself in front of morons who makes fun of me till i changed all that. ANd now things work differently more attuned with me. If girls or boy here want to live like they want, have a free lifestyle and lovestyle, being with someone but teasing and enjoying elsewhere, not listening any lover, lover come and goes they can do what they want, this is their life. But i lead my life as i want. Of course, i ask when i meet someone how many lover she had etc... because it speaks alone, or someone who move constantly, change hobbies or job, t hat always mean a lot, often just a clue like this and its a turn off for me. plus, i don't have 5 exaltation planets and a grand trine to mix with vermin-like muck. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 24, 2015 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by visions:
sorry but i have some high standards in certain fields of my life. I know where i come from and i won't for sure pretend to some high life with luxury, perfect surroundings, being part of jet set etc...i am more of a loner, somewhat spiritual thinker, i spent a lot of time reading and i passed graduations till where i am now so i have some depth and i ask same from my partner and friends. You can be rich, you can be beautiful, if you are not high on your passion(and ofc a passion that deserve my interest ( not blabering bull**** like i heard on radio or on tv with so called star ) or got some erudition you won't be considered no matter what. A large part of my life has been to lower myself in front of morons who makes fun of me till i changed all that. ANd now things work differently more attuned with me. If girls or boy here want to live like they want, have a free lifestyle and lovestyle, being with someone but teasing and enjoying elsewhere, not listening any lover, lover come and goes they can do what they want, this is their life. But i lead my life as i want. Of course, i ask when i meet someone how many lover she had etc... because it speaks alone, or someone who move constantly, change hobbies or job, t hat always mean a lot, often just a clue like this and its a turn off for me.plus, i don't have 5 exaltation planets and a grand trine to mix with vermin muck.
Having high standards for yourself (specifically high expectations FROM yourself) is different than needing people to obey what you say when you say, instead of feeling free with you and in tune with you and doing things from their heart and mind. What you describe is low, not high. Reading your initial post made me think of Stalin; he had exaltation and a grand trine too.
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visions
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posted July 24, 2015 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Reading your initial post made me think of Stalin; he had exaltation and a grand trine too.
not as much as me. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 24, 2015 10:12 AM
Yeah, I'm sure your Grand Trine is bigger than Stalin's OK...time to give up...wouf wouf! ------------------
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Chief1
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posted July 24, 2015 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Feminism made equal rights for women and men possible. Such as the right to vote, have jobs, bank accounts, same salary, brought to your porch, to your mother, sister, wife and daughter, consequently, yourself. You owe all of this to a bunch of pioneers, just as it happens with all major social changes: we, the consumers, owe the comfort in our life to a small group of people who paid for those with their own comfort, freedom and sometimes their life. Such ignorance and ingratitude as you show here must really hurt. Or it should.
That's crumbs compared to the exalted status of women in the matriarchal societies that were wiped out by the warring patriarchal tribes. Women used to have the capability of immaculate conception. She is dominant on any physical plane as long as gender exists. The priest of ancient Egypt knew this that's why they used to dress like women. But your worried about the right to vote... Lol the whole system that your votes uphold is designed against your nature cus the people who run it hate women. You should try to find out who they are and see what their zodiac signs are. And I'm not ignorant don't be rude IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 24, 2015 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Chief1:
That's crumbs compared to the exalted status of women in the matriarchal societies that were wiped out by the warring patriarchal tribes. Women used to have the capability of immaculate conception. She is dominant on any physical plane as long as gender exists. The priest of ancient Egypt knew this that's why they used to dress like women. But your worried about the right to vote... Lol the whole system that your votes uphold is designed against your nature cus the people who run it hate women. You should try to find out who they are and see what their zodiac signs are.And I'm not ignorant don't be rude
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you by calling you, as a person, ignorant. I apologize if it sounded that way. We all have our limitations, I am ignorant on many matters myself. I just wanted to point out that believing the feminist movement is a CIA conspiracy shows evident lack of knowledge about the history and implications of the feminist movement.
Luckily, we all have at least google nowadays. Although, based on the rest of your post, chances are you think google is a CIA branch too.
As for the rest of your post, personally I believe what you describe is primitive societal structures, no longer needed today. Neither patriarchal, nor matriarchal models are viable nowadays. The future belongs to egalitarianism, as contemporary values and prognostics show.
I don't believe in the immaculate conception, it's a religious concept which hasn't been proven so far, and it doesn't belong in a serious conversation about feminism history and consequences.
And I have never voted for someone I perceived as "hating" other people  I was sometimes forced by circumstances to vote against those though. IP: Logged |
Seimei
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posted July 24, 2015 12:06 PM
You must remember that what we find via Google is a crumb left for us to follow down a hole like a rabbit.
This entire thread is both sad and hilarious.
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LeeLoo2014
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posted July 24, 2015 12:17 PM
Well, then let's get together and take a trip to the library The point is this: anyone born after 1893, at least through their mother and other feminine figures in their life, benefited from the feminism fight, sacrifices and accomplishments all their life. In fact, I think anyone considering giving opinions about feminism, women rights, female gender characteristics should do it by thinking of their mother first, I'm not sure this happens in all cases. Therefore, like with everything falling into our laps through the courage and sacrifice of a few, gratitude is the only proper attitude, everything else seems disgusting, at least to me. IP: Logged |
Chief1
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posted July 24, 2015 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you by calling you, as a person, ignorant. I apologize if it sounded that way. We all have our limitations, I am ignorant on many matters myself. I just wanted to point out that believing the feminist movement is a CIA conspiracy shows evident lack of knowledge about the history and implications of the feminist movement.
Luckily, we all have at least google nowadays. Although, based on the rest of your post, chances are you think google is a CIA branch too.
As for the rest of your post, personally I believe what you describe is primitive societal structures, no longer needed today. Neither patriarchal, nor matriarchal models are viable nowadays. The future belongs to egalitarianism, as contemporary values and prognostics show.
I don't believe in the immaculate conception, it's a religious concept which hasn't been proven so far, and it doesn't belong in a serious conversation about feminism history and consequences.
And I have never voted for someone I perceived as "hating" other people I was sometimes forced by circumstances to vote against those though.
It's all good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4HRUEqyZ7p8 Me believing the feminist movement is a CIA conspiracy doesn't reflect a lack of knowledge just because you pointed it out. To me it's facts. And please don't assume anything I believe because you don't know me, therefore your probably wrong. I respect your opinions but it's obvious we have two drastically different perspectives so let's just leave it at. IP: Logged |
Chief1
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posted July 24, 2015 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Seimei:
You must remember that what we find via Google is a crumb left for us to follow down a hole like a rabbit.
This entire thread is both sad and hilarious.
I don't speak indirectly or deal with people who are passive aggressive. If your going to comment on something I said adress me directly. What's sad is your lack of a spine. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 24, 2015 12:31 PM
All right, peace offer accepted, Chief 
Sorry for any offense.Thank you for the link I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but I will give it a look. IP: Logged |
Chief1
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posted July 24, 2015 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
All right, peace offer accepted, Chief
Sorry for any offense.Thank you for the link I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but I will give it a look.
No worries LeeLoo I like your passion IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted July 24, 2015 06:57 PM
Visions - Thank you for replying! Seimei - Why sad? IP: Logged |
Choc
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posted July 24, 2015 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Feminism made equal rights for women and men possible. Such as the right to vote, have jobs, bank accounts, same salary, brought to your porch, to your mother, sister, wife and daughter, consequently, yourself. You owe all of this to a bunch of pioneers, just as it happens with all major social changes: we, the consumers, owe the comfort in our life to a small group of people who paid for those with their own comfort, freedom and sometimes their life. Such ignorance and ingratitude as you show here must really hurt. Or it should.
Effing preach!!
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