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Odette
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posted December 13, 2013 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo - I'll come bk later & post my chart. Someone else asked about it as well.

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Here's an interesting thing: when you do find you have a period of desire, is it lasting? Does it seem finite? Can something unrelated to sex or the physical that changes impact whether you continue feeling desire?

Well my desire is lasting towards the particular person I feel it towards. Does that make sense?

I don't really care about the "tags" - whether I call this being demisexual or something else. But the definition fits me - and it seems easier to refer to it - rather than constantly explaining myself.

In RL I don't actually explain this to people at all though.
But maybe it would improve my relationships if I did.

My latest huge mishap - was with a Sagittarius guy who was all over me on first impressions, whereas I was sexually detached, since I felt nothing (I barely knew him) - which he took as rejection. But I am like this towards everyone.

From my perspective I was not at all rejecting him... I was curious about him. But people are people and they have their own issues. He formed the impression (because he said this to mutual friends) that I was a snob and that I would've been interested if he was 'good enough' for me.

I didn't see myself as being out of his league at all. Because he thought this he started to take stabs at me and being a jerk generally. At that point I backfired - and things became very on and off between us, and eventually exploded into nothing.
I think the "demisexual" explanation can at times be useful. When I look back on this experience - I kinda think that if I had a conversation with him from the beginning - and I explained myself.. maybe my rejection would not have been such a blow to his ego - and maybe we could still be normal around each other today, or maybe friends, or maybe more.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted December 13, 2013 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:

What the hell??


Girl bye.


That was for Odette lmao

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Odette
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posted December 13, 2013 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh LOL ^

I meant to reply to your little 'kiss and make-up' comments haha

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Barbiegirl19
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posted December 13, 2013 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You were cracking me up lmao stand your ground!

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LovelyAries86
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posted December 14, 2013 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your reply Odette!

I wouldn't call myself Demisexual, but I totally relate to you in many ways.

I even created a shout-out thread for you not long ago. LOL.

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IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man. I wish I could have these insightful discussions in everyday conversations. Most don't get my passion for analysis. (Blame the 3H Sco-Merc; I do.)

What you said, Odette, is taking me a bit to digest. It rings so sharply in many cases. Maybe I became a dominatrix because of my natural aloofness. Men take that as 'dominance' - whether they like it (submissive) or don't (more dominant themselves). But interest just pings off of me. Hell, the man I'm actually quite crazy about now didn't strike me in a non-platonic fashion until several months later. And I didn't want a sexual relationship. That was three years ago. Now I do. I guess it's just everything in between has led to my feeling so comfortable with him that I'm shocked to realise I'm not sure if I've ever really felt this way before.

That got me thinking about how many women pressure themselves into being sexual; then they end up with hang-ups because of it. I would have relationships in my youth because of a genuine appreciation for the guy. A real connexion.

Now that I look at my 5R being SATURN conjunct JUNO in the 1H - but in shadow (in LIBRA with a VIRGO ASC), it clicks.

I almost always 'dated' my partners. My literal partners and colleagues: whether they're cast members, associates, costars, or writing and producing partners. But always my partners.

My husband? Never a partner, outside of the image and brand we created, when I was a dominatrix. But I think my disgruntled SUN-PLUTO-BML didn't take to his playing Pygmalion. I had very different, very pragmatic reasons for getting married.

But the connexion has never been like those I have with a 'true' partner. It's different. Not like the 7H doesn't become involved. But it's almost like ... it's so easy. Effortless. We don't have to make awkward excuses to be together; we're both devoted to a thing. And passionate about it. And that passion is contagious.

I don't have that in my marriage. I never have. I think ... that's a rather huge revelation. I'm polyamorous because I NEED these connexions in my life. They're important to my soul.

And my husband will say things like, 'but why do they have to be sexual?' And that's just it. They DON'T have to be. But when they are ... it's a powerful draw. It's hardly every partner or costar, too. I've got some wonderfully sexy men in my cast; it's actually going to be really awkward when I have to perform scenes with them, but they're great guys. We've all been able to laugh off even the most intense, disturbing material.

So, it's just my main costar, who isn't even really a partner, per se, but fits the whole SATURN-JUNO 5R thing. HE's the one that just ... really took me by storm. :thinks: His ATROPOS opposes it.

There's this line I heard in a series I was watching, 'why do you feel so inevitable to me?' That stated it perfectly. He feels so inevitable to me. He even said recently, half to me, half to himself: 'we're going to be doing this forever, aren't we?' I think AETERNITAS is around there, too, so ... looks like.

What a strange life I lead. Heh.

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IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy long post, Batman. Sorry, I was having a major epiphany. I should have them more succinctly. Heh.

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Kibriana
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posted January 10, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kibriana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Venus square Saturn? That might postpone things a bit. I also read somewhere that Pluto in 5th can be a sign of someone who either doesn't get any or gets too much.

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Venusian Moon
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posted January 10, 2014 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kibriana:
What about Venus square Saturn? That might postpone things a bit. I also read somewhere that Pluto in 5th can be a sign of someone who either doesn't get any or gets too much.

I dont have pluto in the 5th but my 5th house is ruled by scorpio. Would that be the same?

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IMoppedtheFloor
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posted January 11, 2014 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IMoppedtheFloor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does everybody want some kind of award for what they do with their g.enitalia?

Seriously. The ones who get around think it makes them edgy and liberated, and want to be patted on the back because they think it makes them some kinda pioneers or trailblazers; the ones who never give it up want their a55es kissed because they think it makes them some kinda pure, spiritually-evolved little angels.

I'm kinda over the whole subject, and I see why French people laugh at us. "All Americans think about, is sex sex sex." It's true. And if you define yourself in terms of your identity and your self-esteem, based on what you are (or aren't) doing sexually then you're a really two-dimensional person who needs to find other stuff to focus on, seriously.

I'm just over the whole "Virgin vs Wh0re", "LETS-TALK-ABOUT-SEX-ALL-THE-TIME" sh*t, period.

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whaaat
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posted January 11, 2014 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooh boy I have Saturn in the 7th and Venus square Saturn so I probably won't be giving away my v card any time soon. Coming from a very conservative family with a slvt shaming father and several overprotective brothers with a wh0re /Madonna complex doesn't help either.

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PlutoFish
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posted January 11, 2014 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I lost mine at 15.

Hard aspects from Venus to Saturn/Uranus?
The asteroid Christian would probably tie in

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I'm so cappy
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posted January 11, 2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I demand The Statue of Liberty to be replaced with my monument! The Statue of Virginity!

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Kibriana
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posted January 12, 2014 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kibriana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
I dont have pluto in the 5th but my 5th house is ruled by scorpio. Would that be the same?

I wouldn't say it's the same thing. Scorpio on the 5th house cusp is more about emotional intensity, passion, jealousy and domination when it comes to romance, creativity and children. With this placement love is usually taken seriously.

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Kibriana
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posted January 12, 2014 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kibriana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by whaaat:
Ooh boy I have Saturn in the 7th and Venus square Saturn so I probably won't be giving away my v card any time soon. Coming from a very conservative family with a slvt shaming father and several overprotective brothers with a wh0re /Madonna complex doesn't help either.

Sorry to hear that :/ I do hope things will get better with time and as you get older. This aspect is supposed to get easier to deal with later in life. Also , working on your self-confidence and courage should be useful, because people with this aspect are normally quite shy and are afraid they'll make fools out of themselves, so they don't even try. Your family might be a problem, but the solution always lies within us.

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Belba
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posted January 12, 2014 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
Why does everybody want some kind of award for what they do with their g.enitalia?

Seriously. The ones who get around think it makes them edgy and liberated, and want to be patted on the back because they think it makes them some kinda pioneers or trailblazers; the ones who never give it up want their a55es kissed because they think it makes them some kinda pure, spiritually-evolved little angels.

I'm kinda over the whole subject, and I see why French people laugh at us. "All Americans think about, is sex sex sex." It's true. And if you define yourself in terms of your identity and your self-esteem, based on what you are (or aren't) doing sexually then you're a really two-dimensional person who needs to find other stuff to focus on, seriously.

I'm just over the whole "Virgin vs Wh0re", "LETS-TALK-ABOUT-SEX-ALL-THE-TIME" sh*t, period.


Love it

I mean, sexual lives of some random people is one of the most irrelevant topics ever. And not that interesting either.

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IndigoDirae
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posted January 12, 2014 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
Why does everybody want some kind of award for what they do with their g.enitalia?

Seriously. The ones who get around think it makes them edgy and liberated, and want to be patted on the back because they think it makes them some kinda pioneers or trailblazers; the ones who never give it up want their a55es kissed because they think it makes them some kinda pure, spiritually-evolved little angels.

I'm kinda over the whole subject, and I see why French people laugh at us. "All Americans think about, is sex sex sex." It's true. And if you define yourself in terms of your identity and your self-esteem, based on what you are (or aren't) doing sexually then you're a really two-dimensional person who needs to find other stuff to focus on, seriously.

I'm just over the whole "Virgin vs Wh0re", "LETS-TALK-ABOUT-SEX-ALL-THE-TIME" sh*t, period.


It's because America is the most sexually anorexic. We're both repressed and obsessed, AND addicted. No wonder we've got issues.

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posted January 12, 2014 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by whaaat:
Ooh boy I have Saturn in the 7th and Venus square Saturn so I probably won't be giving away my v card any time soon. Coming from a very conservative family with a slvt shaming father and several overprotective brothers with a wh0re /Madonna complex doesn't help either.

I have this AND Pluto in my 5th house…

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PixieJane
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posted January 12, 2014 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Much of this thread is about the astrology of it, tangents aside.

That said, as I just saw these 2 vids briefly explaining bisexuality and asexuality before coming here and seeing this floating at the top again (coincidence?) I thought I'd share:

bisexuality and asexuality. And those are hosted by Laci Green whose chart was also recently discussed.

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posted January 12, 2014 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kibriana:
Sorry to hear that :/ I do hope things will get better with time and as you get older. This aspect is supposed to get easier to deal with later in life. Also , working on your self-confidence and courage should be useful, because people with this aspect are normally quite shy and are afraid they'll make fools out of themselves, so they don't even try. Your family might be a problem, but the solution always lies within us.

Thank you <3

It does seem to get better. In my early teens I was so painfully self concious that I wore 2-3 layers even in the hottest days of summer (and I wasn't even concious of my weight- I was always slim. It was a baseless hate toward my very essence).

I'm also more easygoing around people, whereas not long ago I would break down crying if approached by someone.
Having so much Saturn in my chart is like a rock on my chest, but it's getting easier to carry with each year

Maybe someday it will become nothing but a pea under a feather mattress :P

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LovelyAries86
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posted January 12, 2014 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Much of this thread is about the astrology of it, tangents aside.

That said, as I just saw these 2 vids briefly explaining bisexuality and asexuality before coming here and seeing this floating at the top again (coincidence?) I thought I'd share:

bisexuality and asexuality. And those are hosted by Laci Green whose chart was also recently discussed.


Thanks for sharing.

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mutability
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posted January 12, 2014 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mutability     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm 23 and still a virgin

Sun in Sagittarius
Mars in Gemini
Venus in Sagittarius

Can you believe it? XD

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Moon in Virgo opposing Pisces Ascendant
lol

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MillyX
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posted January 12, 2014 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:

I'm just over the whole "Virgin vs Wh0re", "LETS-TALK-ABOUT-SEX-ALL-THE-TIME" sh*t, period.


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