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Eyesofmystery
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posted February 03, 2014 05:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he looks like one. so he must be! burn him!

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posted February 03, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Saturn sq Jupiter. Bad luck and bad things happening TO him from which he learns lessons.

This may bode that he did not abuse but got set up. Does that fit for anyone?


I have Saturn sq Jupiter, and I can vouch to the bad luck and bad things happening seemingly out of nowhere. But Saturn is always about Karma and overcoming through hard work and complete honesty and dependability. It is not a set up situation.

A setup would involve Neptune imo because it would imply deception.

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posted February 03, 2014 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Belage!

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posted February 03, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, Ami.

I think if we could get a chart for Dylan, we would get a much better idea of what is happening.

I also wish we could get IQ to stop by and share his thoughts. I am not an expert on asteroids.

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posted February 03, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with summerlite.
Whoever says it is disgusting that he is "still with his stepdaughter" she was never his stepdaughter. She is Mia's adopted daughter.

Some interesting facts here:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html

Including the fact that Mia Farrow is good friends with and defends a couple of other child molester suspects and says nothing about her brother (recently convicted for same).

BUT trial by media and gossip.is not acceptable in this country where Innocent till Proven guilty is essential to our national M.O.

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posted February 03, 2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
I agree with summerlite.
Whoever says it is disgusting that he is "still with his stepdaughter" she was never his stepdaughter. She is Mia's adopted daughter.

Some interesting facts here:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not- so-fast.html

Including the fact that Mia Farrow is good friends with and defends a couple of other child molester suspects and says nothing about her brother (recently convicted for same).

BUT trial by media and gossip.is not acceptable in this country where Innocent till Proven guilty is essential to our national M.O.


She may not have been legally his stepdaughter, but she was the child (adopted or bio it doesn't matter) of the woman he was having a long standing relationship with. That gives him a parental figure role in that child's life, imo.

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posted February 03, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
I agree with summerlite.
Whoever says it is disgusting that he is "still with his stepdaughter" she was never his stepdaughter. She is Mia's adopted daughter.

Some interesting facts here:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not- so-fast.html

Including the fact that Mia Farrow is good friends with and defends a couple of other child molester suspects and says nothing about her brother (recently convicted for same).

BUT trial by media and gossip.is not acceptable in this country where Innocent till Proven guilty is essential to our national M.O.



Why should she talk about her brother publicly? And if you're talking about Polanski, she recently said they're not friends.

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posted February 03, 2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I noticed is that when the story broke back in 1992, Pluto was roughly in the same degrees of Scorpio occupied now by transiting Saturn. What asteroid does Allen have in the 21 to 25 degrees of Scorpio? How can one find that out?

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posted February 03, 2014 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He and Mia never lived together. SoonYi has a father, Andre Previn. I may be wrong but I doubt he was much of a father figure. Bad enough that he was her mother's boyfriend of course...

And I find it ironic and karmic that Mia, who helped break up Previn's marriage and married not one but two men basically old enough to be her father, experienced the other side of the same situation...

Not to mention that she has suggested that Sinatra, not... Allen, was the father of their supposedly mutual child, Sinatra being married to another woman at the time.

But again, none of this clears or convicts either side if the question, and probly we should not draw conclusions in a case we can't know anything but "he said she said" about?

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posted February 03, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
One thing I noticed is that when the story broke back in 1992, Pluto was roughly in the same degrees of Scorpio occupied now by transiting Saturn. What asteroid does Allen have in the 21 to 25 degrees of Scorpio? How can one find that out?


I just checked with my semi-random list of asteroids, he has at those degrees

1862 Apollo, 23°10'18" Scorpio
4386 Lust, 25°30'51" Scorpio

3rd house both

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Originally posted by swampys:
You don't get accused for something like that for just no reason. He's still with his stepdaughter, too, which is completely disgusting.

Yeaaaaaaah.
exactly .

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posted February 03, 2014 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are married with two kids. She is not his stepdaughter. What is disgusting about it?

As to Pluto and Saturn, Mia Farrow's sun is at 20Aqua, so square those transits. And Pluto is currently squaring her n moon, as is Uranus
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Mia_Farrow

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posted February 03, 2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't approve of his behavior because he was more like a parental figure in her life and she was also borderline mentally challenged, right?
He basically took advantage of a young disabled girl who trusted him to behave more like a father figure. So, it does seem like he took advantage of her.
And, the media flaunts it in front of everyone knowing nothing can be done about it.
And now people act like Mia's the bad guy just because she doesn't approve of someone doing something like this?

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posted February 03, 2014 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lilithsquared:
I just checked with my semi-random list of asteroids, he has at those degrees

1862 Apollo, 23°10'18" Scorpio
4386 Lust, 25°30'51" Scorpio

3rd house both


Thank you Lilithsquared!

Apollo is not really pertinent to the matter, is it? But Lust certainly is...

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posted February 03, 2014 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
They are married with two kids. She is not his stepdaughter. What is disgusting about it?

As to Pluto and Saturn, Mia Farrow's sun is at 20Aqua, so square those transits. And Pluto is currently squaring her n moon, as is Uranus
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Mia_Farrow


You mean Pluto is conjunct her moon while Uranus is squaring it. Jupiter is also opposing her moon.

Farrow's moon is conjunct Allen's NN. So all those transits are affecting ALlen's NN.

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posted February 03, 2014 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I don't approve of his behavior because he was more like a parental figure in her life and she was also borderline mentally challenged, right?
He basically took advantage of a young disabled girl who trusted him to behave more like a father figure. So, it does seem like he took advantage of her.
And, the media flaunts it in front of everyone knowing nothing can be done about it.
And now people act like Mia's the bad guy just because she doesn't approve of someone doing something like this?

Soon Yi has a degree from Columbia University. She is not mentally challenged.

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posted February 03, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SoonYi is a perfectly competent, educated person. Read the piece above, Starlight, about people spreading vicious slander about people they don't even take the time to get facts about...
(daily beast link)

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posted February 03, 2014 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the problem I have with the media. When this scandal first aired the press was all about how mentally challenged Soon Yi was. Where did they get that, or did she merely have a learning disability she overcame or grew out of?
Still doesn't make what he did right, a lot of Hollywood big wigs are sleazebags, it's well known. Very corrupt, they do what they want. Hollywood has a reputation.

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posted February 03, 2014 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Thank you Lilithsquared!

Apollo is not really pertinent to the matter, is it? But Lust certainly is...


You're welcome

And speaking of non-pertinent asteroids, i got bored and made a list of both Woody and Mia's asteroids. Nothing too interesting stands out, and might be difficult to follow... I'm not good at formatting.


WOODY's asteroids:

In Aries:

8°23'41", 4580 Child
8°31'43", 447 Valentine
17°58'6" R, 1388 Aphrodite
20°29'57", Juno
25'°9'6" R, 7066 Nessus

In Taurus:

0°11'9 R, 10 Hygiea


In Gemini:

8°18'28" R, 16 Psyche
13°51'12 R, Chiron


In Leo:

6°30'50", 6583 Destinn
11°37'14", 1198 Atlantis
27°34'52", 80 Sappho


In Virgo:

25°44'5", BML


In Libra:

13°27'24", Pallas
29°18'14", Ceres

In Scorpio:

3°27'4", 212 Medea
9°27'52", 1170 Siva
16°23'30", 7899 Joya
16°34'47", 2063 Bacchus
18°35'47", 763 Cupido
23°10'18", 1862 Apollo
25°30'51", 4386 Lust


In Sagittarius:

3°35'28", 19029 Briede
5°40'24", 1585 Union
9°24'3", 26 Proserpina
19° 6'36", 157 Dejanira
19°40'31", 1487 Boda
20° 1'53", 3811 Karma
24°21'14", 149 Medusa


In Capricorn:

0°52'25", 4227 Kaali
5° 5'13", 2101 Adonis
9°35'44", Pholus


In Aquarius:

3°26'49", 37452 Spirit
10°29'28", 11911 Angel


In Pisces:

1°10'14", 433 Eros
3°37'58", 1221 Amor
8°52'1", 5129 Groom
12°31'16", Vesta
23°50'39", 390 Alma


MIA's asteroids:

In Aries:

4°56'10", 1170 Siva
6°36'37", 19029 Briede
11°48'31", 37452 Spirit

In Taurus:

4°52'9" , 7066 Nessus
5°21', 4227 Kaali
8°22'55", 390 Alma
9°38'5", 4386 Lust
19°9'55", 1221 Amor
21° 2'42", 4580 Child
25°53'25", 433 Eros


In Gemini:

2°56'27", 7899 Joya
4°45'12", 212 Medea
26°34'44", Juno

In Cancer:

11°19'32" R, 1487 Boda

In Virgo:

7°46'24" R, 763 Cupido
11°37'55" R, 6583 Destinn


In Libra:

2°52'27" R, Chiron
7°59'17" R, Pallas
9°49'9", BML
21°41'56", Vesta
23°37'33", 11911 Angel


In Scorpio:

6°14'41", Ceres
8°39'15", 5129 Groom
13°28'34", 1585 Union
24°47'35", 2101 Adonis


In Sagittarius:

11°36'16" 149 Medusa

In Capricorn:

12°41'7", 2063 Bacchus
18° 2' 2", 10 Hygiea
23° 1'2", Pholus
26°45'25", 1388 Aphrodite


In Aquarius:

6°22'40", 26 Proserpina
7° 4'32", 447 Valentine
18°11'58", 157 Dejanira
24° 5'28", 80 Sappho
25°52'41", 1198 Atlantis


In Pisces:

4°58'52", 3811 Karma
8°57' 1", 1862 Apollo
15°27'31, 16 Psyche

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
This is the problem I have with the media. When this scandal first aired the press was all about how mentally challenged Soon Yi was. Where did they get that, or did she merely have a learning disability she overcame or grew out of?
Still doesn't make what he did the right, a lot of Hollywood big wigs are sleazebags, it's well known. Very corrupt, they do what they want. Hollywood has a reputation.

That's the thing: When the scandal broke, I don't remember hearing anything about her being "mentally challenged". What I did hear was Andre Previn describing her as "secretive". Now she's mentally challenged or has a learning disorder. This whole story has always stunk to heaven.

But I'm one of those who's never believed it, there's just too much that's questionable. He leaves Mia Farrow and suddenly she's accusing him of being a pedophile. How convenient. Just in time to deny him child custody.

As for Dylan's story, how old was she when this happened, 7 or so? At the time there was a question of whether or not her story was "coached". She's grown now and whatever happened has been confounded with what she has been told happened. How do you evaluate it? Believe everything you're told, because otherwise you're enabling child abuse?

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posted February 03, 2014 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by page one:
That's the thing: When the scandal broke, I don't remember hearing anything about her being "mentally challenged". What I did hear was Andre Previn describing her as "secretive". Now she's mentally challenged or has a learning disorder. This whole story has always stunk to heaven.

But I'm one of those who's never believed it, there's just too much that's questionable. He leaves Mia Farrow and suddenly she's accusing him of being a pedophile. How convenient. Just in time to deny him child custody.

As for Dylan's story, how old was she when this happened, 7 or so? At the time there was a question of whether or not her story was "coached". She's grown now and whatever happened has been confounded with what she has been told happened. How do you evaluate it? Believe everything you're told, because otherwise you're enabling child abuse?



Do Woody Allen and Soon Yi have kids together now? I haven't kept up with this story...just remember when there was a huge scandal when he and Mia divorced.
If Allen and Soon Yi have kids there's your answer. Just forget Hollywood and celebritism for a moment and consider if it was someone you knew who raised a child then she went and had his kid. You would be all freaked out and ****** off about it. Who wouldn't?

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posted February 03, 2014 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astrotheme.com/astrology/Woody_Allen

Saturn (and prev pluto) squaring Allen's moon and opposing his MC/conjunct IC.


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posted February 03, 2014 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:

What makes a woman taking Mia Farrows position stand in support of Roman Polanski, who admits he did havesex with a 13year old...?

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She's not doing that anymore

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posted February 03, 2014 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by page one:
[b] That's the thing: When the scandal broke, I don't remember hearing anything about her being "mentally challenged". What I did hear was Andre Previn describing her as "secretive". Now she's mentally challenged or has a learning disorder. This whole story has always stunk to heaven.

But I'm one of those who's never believed it, there's just too much that's questionable. He leaves Mia Farrow and suddenly she's accusing him of being a pedophile. How convenient. Just in time to deny him child custody.

As for Dylan's story, how old was she when this happened, 7 or so? At the time there was a question of whether or not her story was "coached". She's grown now and whatever happened has been confounded with what she has been told happened. How do you evaluate it? Believe everything you're told, because otherwise you're enabling child abuse?



Do Woody Allen and Soon Yi have kids together now? I haven't kept up with this story...just remember when there was a huge scandal when he and Mia divorced.
If Allen and Soon Yi have kids there's your answer. Just forget Hollywood and celebritism for a moment and consider if it was someone you knew who raised a child then she went and had his kid. You would be all freaked out and ****** off about it. Who wouldn't? [/B][/QUOTE]

Allen & Soon-Yi have 2 adopted daughters. He did not divorce Mia because they were never married nor did he ever live with her & her children.

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posted February 03, 2014 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Allen & Soon-Yi have 2 adopted daughters.

Are they married?

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