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Topic: Woody Allen and allegations of sexual molestations
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LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 28, 2014 06:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Well that is what I am talking about. I have noticed people with mercury-pluto aspects tend to be paranoid. For example my sister has this and she thinks every single guy she has dated and she has dated a lot including her husband are; gay, cheating on her or have a serious drug problem; nobody that meets the guys she dates agrees with her ever, nobody; not her friends nor her family.She even thinks her husband is bisexual and cheats on her. Its a paranoia that is fixed and ongoing and focused around her love life. I do know neptune rules her 7th so that is the outlet her mercury-pluto is directed at. I feel neptune gives delusions and pluto paranoia and obsession, combine them together and you have paranoid delusions. [b]In the case of Mia her Nessus squaring mercury-pluto could definitely translate to delusional paranoia revolving around abuse leading to false accusations as she does have a very active neptune[/B]
I don't know about the other aspects. But as we are talking about in the Merc sq Pluto thread. Merc sq Pluto isn't always paranoia. Sometimes it's a BS detector. Not that I think either of them are particularly on the up and up. I think both of them have serious issues.
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appleberry Moderator Posts: 2987 From: Venusian Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 29, 2014 12:22 AM
I believe he's guilty, but I don't know enough about how to check these traits in a chart. I see that his DC is Neptune and his Mars is in the 5th house... I could see those two things as an attraction to children, perhaps. Or innocence. He has a T-square with Pluto/Mars/Venus which I feel could make him quite a sexual person... I'm sure I read somewhere that someone was doing specific research on astrological profiles of pedophiles, to find commonalities... Hafta see if he has those... Off the topic... I see he has close contact between Mercury/Jupiter, inconjunct Uranus... Seems like a genius aspect... IP: Logged |
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posted November 29, 2014 07:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by summerlite: Sss, I don't know what's your problem with him and SoonYi.SY was around 18 when she got along with W. It may seem grossly inappropriate to you but he took responsible for it, let her have a family life. It seems that you want her to be declared a victim, shamed in the media, let her live a whole life thinking she was heavily abused and life ruined by W before you are happy. SY's now an adult. If something's wrong with him, she would have walked away.
The fact that he married his adopted daughter (by alliance), a child he had been watching grow up, a child he had raised himself (this doesn't make a sexually normal man develop romantic/sexual feelings, and if it does, he suppresses it) is a strong enough proof he is a pedophile. He is abusing his power, really. He wouldn't have had the guts to marry his adopted daughter (nor the adopted daughter of his partner) if he hadn't been Woody Allen. I am appalled by the fact that they adopted two daughters and one of them looks exactly like Dylan. The story goes on. A gruesome story of power abuse and the complicity and "immunity" of power circles. Sorry for all WA fans I used to be one of them. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
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posted November 29, 2014 09:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Delilah423: "Technically it's his adopted daughter and you don't treat an adoption agency like a bridal one." Baloney. Mia adopted Soon-Yi with her husband Andre Previn long before she was involved with Woody Allen. Woody Allen never married Mia. He never lived with Mia and her children, and supposedly never spent the night in their home. I'm not saying it wasn't a betrayal of Mia, and more than a little skeevy to take up with her adopted daughter, but you need to get your facts straight. Soon-Yi is not, and was not, his adopted daughter or his step-daughter. She was the adopted daughter of his non-live-in girlfriend.
She was the daughter of his partner and the sister of his son, and she was app. 8 years old when he first saw her. He (at least) watched her grow.
But check this Wikipedia quote and track back the article: In 1991, The New York Times opined on Allen's family life: "Few married couples seem more married. They are constantly in touch with each other, and not many fathers spend as much time with their children as Allen does."[111]
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4081 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 29, 2014 04:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Yes, please. They are irrelevant. You chose which ones to include based on a pre-fabricated assumption as to which were important enough to be included.[b]Potential for 'abuse' is not the choice to do it. Mars in the 5th house is generally indicative of his work in theatrical productions. The t-square of Venus:Mars-Pluto is indicative of a strong drive of a creative, romantic/sexual type, but does not indicate quality of choices to come. I am far more familiar with Woody Allen's chart. I've spent quite a bit of time on it. At no point have I said to myself, 'Oh, yeah, there's the mark of a definite born child molester!' Besides,the chart you show here, while standard issue, is several degrees off. People make choices. Free will. Birth charts do not determine the quality of a person's choices to come, only a context for for orienting in life and beginning to make choices. [/B]
umm, I seem to have offended you somewhat. Not sure how... Why don't you put your analysis of his chart instead of tearing down mine? Perhaps we could all benefit... IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9709 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 29, 2014 07:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: umm, I seem to have offended you somewhat. Not sure how...
Well you have pointed at placements that inspired you to say "guilty as charged," IOW, you're calling people with those placements child molesters as you're saying the chart is all that matters. You really don't see how that could be offensive?  'Course your reasoning could come off as lazy or otherwise flawed (and the idea of judging guilt and innocence simply by the chart is a scary one, especially the idea of automatic conviction at birth!) as well which may be what peeved Kannon McAfee rather than being offended. I'm just pointing out that I can see how someone is easily offended by your assertions, because you're not only painting Woody Allen, you're painting everyone else with such placements with the same brush and thus you shouldn't be surprised if others who share some (or even all) of those placements take offense.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4081 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 05, 2014 03:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Well you have pointed at placements that inspired you to say "guilty as charged," IOW, you're calling people with those placements child molesters as you're saying the chart is all that matters. You really don't see how that could be offensive?  'Course your reasoning could come off as lazy or otherwise flawed (and the idea of judging guilt and innocence simply by the chart is a scary one, especially the idea of automatic conviction at birth!) as well which may be what peeved Kannon McAfee rather than being offended. I'm just pointing out that I can see how someone is easily offended by your assertions, because you're not only painting Woody Allen, you're painting everyone else with such placements with the same brush and thus you shouldn't be surprised if others who share some (or even all) of those placements take offense.
Astrologers makes pronouncements all the time. Pronouncements and assertions based on sun, moon, ascendant, etc, and a myriad of other things. Professional astrologers even get paid for those assertions. I am not sitting on a jury and rendering a verdict in a court of law. I am just offering MY opinion based on My understanding of astrology on a site dedicated to astrology. I am not calling people with certain placements child molesters. What I did is, I looked at a particular situation involving child molestation allegations, and I have taken the time to include the asteroids that represented specific names in the situation, which I believe added additional lights. Lazy reasoning you say? You were too lazy to take apart my astrological analysis with your own astrological analysis. What is the point? You don't have to like my interpretations, but to be offended by them is a stretch. Its not that personal. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17985 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2021 07:09 PM
Friends have been talking about a documentary about him, so bump. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17985 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2021 07:11 PM
I don’t think this is something you can see in a chart, though. I don’t think I’ll watch the documentary, because I believe his daughter, and I’m with those who think the relationship with his wife wasn’t healthy. http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/03/wo ody-allen-mariel-hemingway-manhattan/amp I’ve never liked him, personally. I’m younger than his wife, and was grossed out when I heard about them. My BIL reminds me of him. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 139840 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 23, 2021 11:50 AM
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4081 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 23, 2021 10:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I don’t think this is something you can see in a chart, though. I don’t think I’ll watch the documentary, because I believe his daughter, and I’m with those who think the relationship with his wife wasn’t healthy. http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/03/wo ody-allen-mariel-hemingway-manhattan/amp I’ve never liked him, personally. I’m younger than his wife, and was grossed out when I heard about them. My BIL reminds me of him.
From that article you posted, Mariel Hemingway's parents were POS when she tried to tell them she was not comfortable going to Paris with Allen! According to an excerpt obtained by Fox News, the actress cautioned her parents “that I didn’t know what the [sleeping] arrangement was going to be [in Paris], that I wasn’t sure if I was even going to have my own room. Woody hadn’t said that. He hadn’t even hinted it. But I wanted them to put their foot down. They didn’t. They kept lightly encouraging me.” My gosh, I can't even imagine what it must e like to have your parents willing to sell you, a teenager, to Woody Allen. Stories like this gross me out. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 17985 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2021 01:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: From that article you posted, Mariel Hemingway's parents were POS when she tried to tell them she was not comfortable going to Paris with Allen!According to an excerpt obtained by Fox News, the actress cautioned her parents “that I didn’t know what the [sleeping] arrangement was going to be [in Paris], that I wasn’t sure if I was even going to have my own room. Woody hadn’t said that. He hadn’t even hinted it. But I wanted them to put their foot down. They didn’t. They kept lightly encouraging me.” My gosh, I can't even imagine what it must e like to have your parents willing to sell you, a teenager, to Woody Allen. Stories like this gross me out.
Me, too. I read about another girl whose mother did the same thing. I can’t remember where, and I’m not sure if she actually gave a name - it’s been a few years, so I don’t know if I should say who people thought the actor was. I checked out this “blind gossip” site a few times, because someone linked to it, but it was too depressing. “This fake couple did this” and “this person is manipulating that one” or “you think this couple is really happy, but they aren’t!” A site making money from gossip, and other people’s misery, if any of it was true. So I didn’t know what to make of the story, but it was an older actor, who asked out a teenage girl who was working in a store, and her mother apparently encouraged her to go along with it. 
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4081 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2021 11:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Me, too. I read about another girl whose mother did the same thing. I can’t remember where, and I’m not sure if she actually gave a name - it’s been a few years, so I don’t know if I should say who people thought the actor was. I checked out this “blind gossip” site a few times, because someone linked to it, but it was too depressing. “This fake couple did this” and “this person is manipulating that one” or “you think this couple is really happy, but they aren’t!” A site making money from gossip, and other people’s misery, if any of it was true. So I didn’t know what to make of the story, but it was an older actor, who asked out a teenage girl who was working in a store, and her mother apparently encouraged her to go along with it. 
Stories like this make my skin crawl. I guess if I have to be spiritual about it, I would have to see that the parents were most likely also pimped by their own parents. Hurt people hurt people.
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