posted February 04, 2014 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Aww, whatever happened to innocent until proved guilty..

He's genius at what he does.

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posted February 04, 2014 03:09 PM            

You have a problem? Take it to the officials. Prove it.

I can't blame the girl; but the open letters are the anonymous letters of this century. They are vile. The girl calls out other celebrities who can't help her. Why are they named? What's the point of that action? If she was indeed abused I really hope that moment doesn't harm her credibility.

posted February 04, 2014 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
The problem is that they don't call out a molester but a celebrity molester. They attack his public persona, wherein they should attack a potential abuser.

You have a problem? Take it to the officials. Prove it.

I can't blame the girl; but the open letters are the anonymous letters of this century. They are vile. The girl calls out other celebrities who can't help her. Why are they named? What's the point of that action? If she was indeed abused I really hope that moment doesn't harm her credibility.

His Sun/Neptune Sq is sublimed into his art.

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I think she called out those celebrities because they were so openly praising him recently.

As for, why do this publicly, i don't think she can sue him anymore legally? Statute of limitations?

Anyway, i think i'd be more sympathetic to Woody if it was just Mia and her family saying things but there's more suspect things about him.
http://defamer.gawker.com/the-internet-digs-up-woody-allens-creepy-child-loving-1515815185

From Jim Jerome's profile of Woody Allen in the October 4, 1976 People Magazine issue:

"I try to have sex only with women I like a lot," Woody explains solemnly. "Otherwise I find it fairly mechanical." (He has little interest in family life: "It's no accomplishment to have or raise kids. Any fool can do it.")

He goes on: "I'm open-minded about sex. I'm not above reproach; if anything, I'm below reproach. I mean, if I was caught in a love nest with 15 12-year-old girls tomorrow, people would think, yeah, I always knew that about him." Allen pauses. "Nothing I could come up with would surprise anyone," he ventures helplessly. "I admit to it all."

From the introduction to Maureen Orth's 1992 Vanity Fair article "Mia's Story":

There was an unwritten rule in Mia Farrow's house that Woody Allen was never supposed to be left alone with their seven-year-old adopted daughter, Dylan.

From the September 21, 1992 New York Magazine article "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Woody and Mia (But Were Afraid to Ask)," acquaintances discuss Allen's behavior toward his daughter:

From the start, Farrow's friends say, Allen seemed "obsessed" by the little girl. He would arrive at Mia's house at six in the morning and sit on the end of Dylan's bed, staring at her until she woke up. He insisted that she be kept up until he got home in the evening to tuck her in. He was reluctant to leave her alone at school. His behavior struck several parents of other children as odd.

posted February 04, 2014 03:46 PM            

Absolutely atrocious.

One of the reasons why the industry is sinking faster than the titanic...

posted February 04, 2014 03:57 PM            

Because something had happened or because she had SUSPECTED something could happen?

posted February 04, 2014 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
The problem is that they don't call out a molester but a celebrity molester. They attack his public persona, wherein they should attack a potential abuser.

You have a problem? Take it to the officials. Prove it.

I can't blame the girl; but the open letters are the anonymous letters of this century. They are vile. The girl calls out other celebrities who can't help her. Why are they named? What's the point of that action? If she was indeed abused I really hope that moment doesn't harm her credibility.

His Sun/Neptune Sq is sublimed into his art.

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posted February 04, 2014 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
The problem is that they don't call out a molester but a celebrity molester. They attack his public persona, wherein they should attack a potential abuser.

You have a problem? Take it to the officials. Prove it.

I can't blame the girl; but the open letters are the anonymous letters of this century. They are vile. The girl calls out other celebrities who can't help her. Why are they named? What's the point of that action? If she was indeed abused I really hope that moment doesn't harm her credibility.

His Sun/Neptune Sq is sublimed into his art.

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posted February 08, 2014 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
he was not proven innocent with Dylan. he was never charged. not the same thing, nor an insignificant technicality.

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Yeah, thats pretty much what I read too. There were plenty of sketchy and mostly likely unethical things that went on behind the scenes during the case.

Regardless of your opinion of Woody Allen, it takes tremendous courage for a victim of child sexual abuse to come forward and tell his/her story. I personally think the letters are awesome- it is about time someone called out Hollywood on their hypocrisy- child sex abuse happens way too often and goes undetected in this industry.

For Diane Keaton to go on stage (Golden Globes) and talked about the importance of the development of female characters in Allen's movies...ugh I wanted to throw up.

posted February 08, 2014 07:47 AM            

SY was around 18 when she got along with W. It may seem grossly inappropriate to you but he took responsible for it, let her have a family life. It seems that you want her to be declared a victim, shamed in the media, let her live a whole life thinking she was heavily abused and life ruined by W before you are happy. SY's now an adult. If something's wrong with him, she would have walked away.

posted February 08, 2014 10:04 AM            

Woody Allen is not Hollywood, but New York. Mia is the Hollywood here, but she's a woman so she must be tekling the truth, right? Dylan can't be the enmeshed child of an upset parent...

That is the bias here. It's still he said/she said, and the examiners determined the girl had not been abused, her brother says it was impossiblr...

The link isn't too good did anyone get to read his side of the story, or does being successful cancel innocent till proven guilty?

posted November 26, 2014 09:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
You're welcome, Ami.

I honestly cannot answer your question with great confidence. So I will just give a guess. In Allen's case, the Child conjunct Lie orb is 4 degree so perhaps this conjunction is not significant. Perhaps it is a deceiving orb. If it was a tighter orb, I could mean that the child is a liar.

Child Trine Lie would mean that it is easy for the Child to lie. Or that the Child benefits from Lie.

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Hello Everyone,
This thread was very insightful! I'm new to this forum and in need of some help. I suspect that someone close to me MAY have pedophile tendencies. Would you or anyone else here please take a look at his chart if I post or email his details? I'm a novice and the concept of asteroids are very new to me. ANY help would be much appreciated.

posted November 26, 2014 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:

Well, you seem biased, because obviously you already hate his guts.

He does have the jovial Sun/Jupiter/Mercury conjunction in his house of home, which makes him a pretty good-at-heart fella, with bubbly happy-go lucky personality. His Moon is nice and warm with a trine to his Venus, no other aspects to Moon.
Saturn, however, is the ruler of his 5th house of children and it is very harsh in his chart - it squares his jovial Sun/Jupiter/Merciry conjunction from the house of marriage. Difficulties and problems with his children and spouse. People with Saturn in square to personal planets are very disciplined and hardly go against the rules. Mars in opposition to Pluto across his 5th-11th houses could be the hallmark of a victim, but Pluto-Mars can go both ways - the native either is the victim or the abuser. The people I personally know in my life with a Mars -Pluto are usually the victims.
Venus-Pluto aspect is too wide.
I am not convinced he is guilty. But im not exactly sure he is innocent, either.

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You should check out Mia's chart; in my opinion she has indicators for paranoia, I think there is something really off about her. I too am not convinced at all his guilty. He is claustrophobic and they report the abuse happened in a tiny room in the attic.

Also children are very easy to manipulate and easily impressionable, sadly so are adults but children a lot more and if you have a mother putting in your head that your dad abused you over and over again it becomes reality in your mind.

Memory has a tendency to resconstruct according to a cognitive psychology theory of how the mind works.

posted November 26, 2014 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:

He has Ophelia-Moon exact. I wonder if it means he views women to behave irrationally or he feels helpless towards women.

I don't think we can get the full story until you have his daughter's chart.

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It could mean he attracts irrational women who have a hard time letting go of him, maybe.

posted November 26, 2014 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
Mia has Nessus cjt Kaali. iQ said it can mean victim in a woman's chart if there are squares. I don't know how to interpret it from here. She has Nessus sq Mercury/Pluto. (abusive in communication perhaps?) She also married several times so it's hard to tell from which marriage.

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Well that is what I am talking about. I have noticed people with mercury-pluto aspects tend to be paranoid. For example my sister has this and she thinks every single guy she has dated and she has dated a lot including her husband are; gay, cheating on her or have a serious drug problem; nobody that meets the guys she dates agrees with her ever, nobody; not her friends nor her family.

She even thinks her husband is bisexual and cheats on her. Its a paranoia that is fixed and ongoing and focused around her love life. I do know neptune rules her 7th so that is the outlet her mercury-pluto is directed at. I feel neptune gives delusions and pluto paranoia and obsession, combine them together and you have paranoid delusions.

posted November 26, 2014 10:53 AM            

The paranoia sometimes spreads and generalizes and takes a life of its own.

posted November 26, 2014 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by TrueBlu:
Hello Everyone,
This thread was very insightful! I'm new to this forum and in need of some help. I suspect that someone close to me MAY have pedophile tendencies. Would you or anyone else here please take a look at his chart if I post or email his details? I'm a novice and the concept of asteroids are very new to me. ANY help would be much appreciated.

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posted November 27, 2014 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Woody Allen is on the news again! His estranged daugther Dylan has publicly accused him of sexual molestation in a major newspaper. So I thought it was a good time to look up his chart. What I saw was very interesting.

I don’t have all the facts though I have followed this case since it began years ago. Putting aside my personal opinion, if I am looking at this through the prism of astrology, I would have to say: guilty as charged!

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[b]Potential for 'abuse' is not the choice to do it.

Mars in the 5th house is generally indicative of his work in theatrical productions. The t-square of Venus:Mars-Pluto is indicative of a strong drive of a creative, romantic/sexual type, but does not indicate quality of choices to come.

I am far more familiar with Woody Allen's chart. I've spent quite a bit of time on it. At no point have I said to myself, 'Oh, yeah, there's the mark of a definite born child molester!'

Besides,the chart you show here, while standard issue, is several degrees off.

People make choices. Free will. Birth charts do not determine the quality of a person's choices to come, only a context for for orienting in life and beginning to make choices.