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Topic: Being hated by the same sex
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lioninash
Knowflake Posts: 97
From: new england!
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 02:32 PM
  
Does anyone else have this problem? What aspects do you think contribute to it?
Ive noticed that growing up, i never got along with females and the thing is i NEVER did anything wrong to them! They would always gang up on me and make fun of me. Now that im older, the reactions are even more instense! I will literally walk into a room, and before i even say or do anything, females will give me dirty looks and talk crap about me to their friends. Even if im nice to them, they will find a reason to be mean to me and they try to belittle me.
The only aspects i can think of for this is my mars bq asc. Maybe i give off a strong appearance, and they find that threatening? It may also be because i have strong lilith aspects, and i read somewhere that "im considered a threat to 'luna' type women" because of this.
What about you guys? Ever experience anything similar? And if so, what aspects do you think contribute to this?IP: Logged |
LeonisStar
Knowflake Posts: 228
From: Daytona beach, FL, USA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 02:48 PM
You must be attractive. Some women are simple just jelly.  In all seriousness though, if it's with the majority of women you meet it's probably strong aspects to the Ascendant like you said IP: Logged |
geminigal2805
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posted February 21, 2014 02:49 PM
I know it hurts at times when women gang up n treat u badly.Maybe u r super sexy. It happens when u r a confident sexy woman. From what i have learnt ignore those veiled insults and keep yourself around confident self assured women. Even if u try hard to please those nasty women it is pointless. In all fairness maybe they are insecure. Happens u know.
I dont know astrology all that well to help u understand this situation better. IP: Logged |
geminigal2805
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posted February 21, 2014 02:49 PM
BML conjunct Asc?
Medusa conju Asc?
Women hate me too. Dont worry.IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 03:05 PM
I have Lilith conjunct asc, mars square asc. I think I'm hated by both sexes... Hmmm I think a bad moon Pluto aspect could cause hate by women? IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
Knowflake Posts: 1755
From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by geminigal2805:
I know it hurts at times when women gang up n treat u badly.Maybe u r super sexy. It happens when u r a confident sexy woman. From what i have learnt ignore those veiled insults and keep yourself around confident self assured women. Even if u try hard to please those nasty women it is pointless. In all fairness maybe they are insecure. Happens u know.
I dont know astrology all that well to help u understand this situation better.
I 2nd that thought. IP: Logged |
fauxcoat
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Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 03:30 PM
Same here. Women hate me. I don't know why because I am not beautiful. I am not sexy either. I dress like I am a school marm. I am not a flirt. I'm quiet and I don't have men falling at my feet. I think I am nice to women. I'm not competitive. I am not jealous and I don't gossip. Yet, they hate me with a capital H. I don't know what it is. I have a poor Lilith aspect but can't find the other post where it was discussed. I think it is in my 3rd house. I have venus in libra in 8th house and venus conjunct mars. I also have Neptune in 10th. However, I do have Saturn opposite my ASC. I don't get it. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted February 21, 2014 03:30 PM
I get that a lot to, I think it's Pluto on my AC conjunct Venus...
It makes women want to prove they are dominant and guys want to own or trap and control you!
People just get aggressive, combative or obsessive around Pluto, when you have it in your AC or it aspects your AC, it's like your putting Pluto in everyone's face....and you don't realize it because your just being you!
Plus my BM Lilith opposes my AC and Medusa is exact square my Venus...it's a lot of stressful aspects with women!Does Pluto aspect your AC or the ruler of your AC? IP: Logged |
lioninash
Knowflake Posts: 97
From: new england!
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 03:34 PM
thank you for your input everyone<3@geminigal2805 i dont think im like super sexy lol but i love who i am and i am confident, but it took me a very long time to love myself and be comfortable in my own skin. The only female friends i have in my life are also confident, strong women  and funny enough, i have medusa sextile my asc. I read that it makes someone vain though, which im definitely not! However maybe thats why females dislike me, maybe they get a vibe from me that im vain / narcistic. @neptuniansag i actually have pluto square moon -_- not to mention pluto is the only planet in my first house. IP: Logged |
summerlite
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Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 21, 2014 03:39 PM
afflicted Moon.If you keep thinking you are pretty, of course girls are going to hate you. IP: Logged |
AriesLilith
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posted February 21, 2014 03:45 PM
Women don't hate me, but I don't have the natural skills of getting along with them. Partially is coz I'm introverted and not good at interacting with unfamiliar people and am shy (AC square Saturn from the 3rd house), but I guess that I don't easily blend in the women group as I don't have natural womenly traits. Aries BML conjunct Moon/Mercury/Venus in the 8th house here.But I can get along with some women, specially when they are the kind of easy going and friendly, and have sense of humor. IP: Logged |
lioninash
Knowflake Posts: 97
From: new england!
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 03:51 PM
@gabby omg you are so right! It's like a power struggle! Females try to put me down and such to show their dominance over me. And about guys, ugh, i hate it. They want to "break me" like im a wild horse. It'll never happen though. I will always be me, and will always want my freedom. Plus, changing myself for a guy? Yeah right. Lilith wouldn't be too proud of me. And i have pluto by itself in first house, in scorpio, and scorpio asc.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 04:06 PM
Moon and Venus.
The best way to get along with the gals is to snuggle up and be so nice and sweet to them. They will love you for that. However, when males enter the scene, they quickly change. So the key is to be with them without a male. Women tend to get catty with other women in such situations. So avoid when they are with their man, especially if they know or believe their man is attracted to you. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted February 21, 2014 04:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by lioninash:
@gabby omg you are so right! It's like a power struggle! Females try to put me down and such to show their dominance over me. And about guys, ugh, i hate it. They want to "break me" like im a wild horse. It'll never happen though. I will always be me, and will always want my freedom. Plus, changing myself for a guy? Yeah right. Lilith wouldn't be too proud of me. And i have pluto by itself in first house, in scorpio, and scorpio asc.
Yes, an annoying power struggle that totally catches you off guard because you had no intention or idea that you were antagonizing someone? You weren't! It's just Pluto doing it's thing...your energy alone is enough to make ppl feel intimidated and on guard! It's frustrating!
Then when you try to compensate by being extra nice they take that as your inferiority to them and make a big production of you being less than them....meanwhile your standing there going....Huh? When did all this happen... i didn't even realize I'd entered a battle??
Lol!!! It's fun...Not! You couldn't have said better regarding the guys wanting to break you...omg! They do try to make you out to be this wild creature that must be tamed...all we want is just let us be who we are and you won't have to tame anyone...we will come to you without a fight! IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 21, 2014 04:40 PM
Just want to point out that you aren't really hated by everyone who's your same sex. Some people are very accepting of everyone, including you. Not to be a Pollyanna too much...just saying, in my own life women have told me that they were intimidated by me before they knew me, but I'm kinda used to getting "negative" reactions from women (I have Mars square moon) and basically adapted to it, trusting that if I am just steadily friendly myself, the dynamic will change. It always does. IP: Logged |
lioninash
Knowflake Posts: 97
From: new england!
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 04:49 PM
Yes exactly! I dont realize i entered a battle until they start saying snarky things and im like oh ok... When did we start fighting? Its like a light switch sometimes too. Ill be talking to a girl fine one second and the next its like they can't stand me. I guess us females really are confusing! We can't understand our own kind sometimes hahah.IP: Logged |
lioninash
Knowflake Posts: 97
From: new england!
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 04:56 PM
@faith i know not EVERY female hates me.. Definitely a good portion though. And i am a very open, loving person, thats why i dont get why im hated. I believe that as women, we should stick together! We should love and support each other, not insult and belittle each other. Thats why this whole thing bothers me so much that i actually made a post about it :/IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 8604
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 05:03 PM
LionInAsh it's probably because they are insecure about men. That's usually why women are catty. For real. Nine times out of ten, you can trace it to some male issue they are having. Other women are viewed as competition. It's basic psychology.
I have seen really nice women turn into complete ******* as soon as a man enters the room. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 21, 2014 05:03 PM
@lioninashI don't want to belittle your concerns, I'm not walking in your shoes. But I'll bet a lot of these women you're criticizing are not really as b*tchy as you think. Know what I mean? There's potential for peace there, but it may have to start with you recognizing that...look for the good in people and you find the good. I don't mean to sound like a greeting card, this is just how my mind works. Sorry. IP: Logged |
jenny415
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 21, 2014 07:16 PM
I love everyone!IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 8604
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 21, 2014 07:28 PM
I always had the opposite problem. Women like me and guys don't.IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 21, 2014 07:47 PM
To whomever said this was about physical attractiveness - my answer to that is: BOO! lolll
If anyone out there thinks they are hated due to physical attractiveness - think again.
There are certain rules of behaviour if you want be liked.. and the rules are different for attractive people and unattractive people.
For instance - an attractive person who wants to be liked can never get arrogant or stuck up.
An unattractive person who wants to be liked is expected to be extra friendly and warm. An attractive person who wants to be liked - can't be 'weak' or giving off vibes like "I am holier than though.. I am so sweet and nice and perfect.. " - These "princessy" or "damsel in distress" vibes are just as bad as the arrogant vibes.
So being "too nice" is also not a good idea.
If you are particularly attractive, you have to be very neutral in your behaviour (and dress-code) but also not arrogant. So if you follow certain rules that are mostly common sense - I'm sure you'll be liked. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 21, 2014 07:49 PM
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Women like me and guys don't.
The answer you are looking for is: cleavage! IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted February 21, 2014 07:54 PM
Moon/Pluto, Moon/Venus hard aspects for females.Sun/Pluto, Sun/Mars hard aspects for males. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted February 21, 2014 08:00 PM
To me....if you want to be liked you have to like yourself first and then not care what others think... Not in a negative or condescending way just in an "I'm secure with who am I am and if you dont like me, I'm ok with that... I'll probably will still like you, but no, I won't let you step on me"!IP: Logged |
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