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Topic: The Dark-Side Souls, how to spot in natal chart
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mztiny
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posted March 07, 2014 05:15 PM
  
What are some aspects to look for in a Natal Chart that show this person is a evil/Dark-side/Evil Soul?
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Mystic_Cat
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posted March 07, 2014 05:23 PM
The accursed degree of Scorpio (7 degree's)The 26th Degree of Taurus , Calput Algol is said by Ptolemy to be the most evil aspect in astrology, the head of Medusa or the Devil's head. Regulus and Antares can both lead to powerful urges for revenge if harshly aspected. Pluto/Charon, Ixion, Orcus, Nessus, Sirius, Saturn, Mars, Procyon, Castor, Pollux together ..
8th House Moon/Suns harshly aspected Saturn in Capricorn - Barrack Obama speaks about killing innocents in the east with barely a blink, not evil but a cold heart perhaps. Saturn conjunct Lucifer in Scorpio Nessus is the only single body that can really come onto the term evil, but you must have other dark aspects to allow yourself to abuse at such at level. Apart from that, we're on the transition between the ages of Pisces and Aquarius, there isn't going to be much classed as Evil, in another 2000 years in the age of Capricorn and Saturn there will be darkness. Rewind a hundred years into the age of Pisces and look into holocausts etc for evil. Ascendant at 25 Degree's Scorpio
Pluto 28 Degree's Scorpio
Ixion 28 Degree's Scorpio
Jupiter 28 Degree's Scorpio
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MagnumJoe
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posted March 07, 2014 05:57 PM
So my moon in 8th house makes me...? What? Darth Vader lol?IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted March 07, 2014 06:00 PM
There are no evil people just mentally ill people wandering the earth causing havoc... they should really have your sympathy but again sometimes its better if the more horrific ones just vanished or something.Even saints had hidden agendas lol IP: Logged |
Mystic_Cat
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posted March 07, 2014 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
So my moon in 8th house makes me...? What? Darth Vader lol?
Haha, i mean in conjunctions not solely by self, if it was a 8th house Moon conjunct Orcus, Ixion and Pollux in Scorpio.  IP: Logged |
summerlite
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posted March 07, 2014 06:03 PM
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Sirius, Procyon, Castor, Pollux are in Cancer.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 07, 2014 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
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Saturn in Capricorn - Barrack Obama speaks about killing innocents in the east with barely a blink.
This coming from someone who won the Nobel Prize for Peace. It is heartbreaking, indeed.IP: Logged |
Mystic_Cat
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posted March 07, 2014 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by summerlite:
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Sirius, Procyon, Castor, Pollux are in Cancer.
I know i was playing around with the aspects, the meaning is still valid, it would be possible through the Draconic  IP: Logged |
Mystic_Cat
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posted March 07, 2014 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
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Saturn in Capricorn - Barrack Obama speaks about killing innocents in the east with barely a blink.
This coming from someone who won the Nobel Prize for Peace. It is heartbreaking, indeed.[/QUOTE] I would say he does what need's to be done for the security and safety of America. It is only because of their own religious extremists that is does sadly happen. Society and the economy must develop in order for the Aquarian age to come forth and so the Extremists must be stopped one way or another, they're choosing to kill innocents for a religion that could or could not exist (in my eyes) and they will not compromise with the Babylonian government for safety and refuse to make any agreements. They need to stop fighting for religion and fight for society, which probably won't happen. Barrack Obama does genuinely fight for peace, peace for his own country, and the east are fighting for there religion, in my eyes society is more important than religion as religion is based on faith and is a thing of the Piscean age which we are ment to be leaving as religion is one of the main benefactors that seperates us as a whole. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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posted March 07, 2014 06:17 PM
Saturn rules Capricorn. I think you may be projecting there. However Obama's Saturn is conj the USA pluto...so he is saddled with the job of embodying the plutonic side of our govt, yes.I think trying to identify darkside people by their natals is a dangerous exercise. No chart is an entity in itself, and the charts of twins do point out how differently the same blueprint can be used to construct a life. Yes, there will be miniscule differences between twins charts but often not enough to explain how different their life choices are. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted March 07, 2014 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
This coming from someone who won the Nobel Prize for Peace. It is heartbreaking, indeed.
Having a strong sense of gallows humor (that makes me feel better able to handle the darkness of the world), I thought I'd share this:
http://www.thefinaledition.com/article/nobel-committee-asks-obama-nicely-to -return-peace-prize.html quote:
Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, said today that President Obama “really ought to consider” returning his Nobel Peace Prize Medal immediately, including the “really nice” case it came in.Jagland, flanked by the other four members of the Committee, said they’d never before asked for the return of a Peace Prize, “even from a damnable war-criminal like Kissinger,” but that the 10% drawdown in US troops in Afghanistan the President announced last week capped a period of “non-Peace-Prize-winner-type behavior” in 2011. “Guantanamo’s still open. There's bombing Libya. There's blowing bin Laden away rather than putting him on trial. Now a few US troops go home, but the US will be occupying Afghanistan until 2014 and beyond. Don’t even get me started on Yemen!” The Committee awarded Obama the coveted prize in 2009 after he made a series of speeches in the first months of his presidency, which convinced the Peace Prize Committee that he was: “creating a new climate of...multilateral diplomacy...an emphasis on the role of the United Nations...of dialogue and negotiations as instruments for resolving international conflicts...and a vision of world free of nuclear arms.”
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But, he revealed the committee members were all “legless drunk” the day they voted, as it was the start of Norway’s annual aquavit-tasting festival. The “totally toasted” members listened over and over to replays of Obama’s Cairo speech, tearing up and drinking shots to the glorious future: a black man leading America and the world into a new era of peace, hope and goodwill. “For a few hours we were all 18 year-old students again at the beautiful, occasionally sunny University of Bergen! Oh, how we cried for joy!”
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The White House had no comment. It later announced an aggressive new covert CIA initiative to identify and apprehend Al Qaeda operatives in Scandinavia.
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Mystic_Cat
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posted March 07, 2014 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Ses Capricorn. I think you may be projecting there. However Obama's Saturn is conj the USA pluto...so he is saddled with the job of embodying the plutonic side of our govt, yes.I think trying to identify darkside people by their natals is a dangerous exercise. No chart is an entity in itself, and the charts of twins do point out how differently the same blueprint can be used to construct a life. Yes, there will be miniscule differences between twins charts but often not enough to explain how different their life choices are.
What do you mean by no chart is an entity? The chart is like a blueprint of your being on Earth, it's the energys and personality you catalyze that you were born with
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Delilah423
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posted March 07, 2014 06:23 PM
Every human being has the capacity for evil. I don't believe any have innately evil souls.The reference to Obama is ridiculous. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted March 07, 2014 06:25 PM
Hello mstiny! Welcome to LL  ------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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Catalina
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posted March 07, 2014 07:30 PM
Yes, the chart is a blueprint...a beginning. Thru progression it is constantly changing, or growing if you like, ie nothingis set in stone. The bare bones can be used to create the life you choose, perhaps within limits but not rigid. I mentioned the darkside because that is the topic. Everything has a dark side but the same chart can describe a life full of crime or courage. As someone who has a family full of algol contacts, and not an evil doer among them, i would point out that algol interpretations, like all the fixed stars, are various, and that algol and regulus always square each other. I an trying to say that reading any placements as signs of an evil character can cause some serious, and avoidable, errors of judgment. The chart DESCRIBES the energies you choose to incarnate amid, nothing more or less. It doesn't make you do anything at all... saint and a murderer can be the result of similar life experiences. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted March 07, 2014 07:40 PM
My Sun is conjunct Lucifer in the 11th house at 2 degrees. I wonder if this is why I can do things out of rage and not think twice about it. Or why I seem to have a dark energy about me even though I'm sweet for the most part.IP: Logged |
Nicole401
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posted March 07, 2014 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
There are no evil people just mentally ill people wandering the earth causing havoc...
Couldn't have said it any better myself IP: Logged |
lioninash
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posted March 07, 2014 07:56 PM
I never knew that 7 degrees scorpio was an "accursed" degree. I have my asc at 7 degrees scorpio and ever since i was little, as in 5/6 years old, i was interested in occult studies. I was studying witchcraft at such a young age, and now that im older i also read tarot cards, do astrology(i only started about 2 years ago), ive used ouija boards and also use pendulums. I feel very intune with the other side, so much so, that i sometimes take comfort in it.IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe
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posted March 07, 2014 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
Haha, i mean in conjunctions not solely by self, if it was a 8th house Moon conjunct Orcus, Ixion and Pollux in Scorpio.
Oh my. I haven't reached this level in astrology yet  Who the hell are these people? Wanted serial killers in your neighborhood? IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor
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posted March 08, 2014 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
My Sun is conjunct Lucifer in the 11th house at 2 degrees. I wonder if this is why I can do things out of rage and not think twice about it. Or why I seem to have a dark energy about me even though I'm sweet for the most part.
FYI, Asteroid Forum, thread on Lucifer conjunct Sun: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000091.html IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 08, 2014 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
My Sun is conjunct Lucifer in the 11th house at 2 degrees. I wonder if this is why I can do things out of rage and not think twice about it. Or why I seem to have a dark energy about me even though I'm sweet for the most part.
Mine too... Same house and only 1 degree. Both conjunct Regulus plus some unfavorable aspects. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 08, 2014 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Having a strong sense of gallows humor (that makes me feel better able to handle the darkness of the world), I thought I'd share this: http://www.thefinaledition.com/article/nobel-committee-asks-obama-nicely-to -return-peace-prize.htmlquote:
Thorbjorn Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, said today that President Obama “really ought to consider” returning his Nobel Peace Prize Medal immediately, including the “really nice” case it came in.
Jagland, flanked by the other four members of the Committee, said they’d never before asked for the return of a Peace Prize, “even from a damnable war-criminal like Kissinger,” but that the 10% drawdown in US troops in Afghanistan the President announced last week capped a period of “non-Peace-Prize-winner-type behavior” in 2011. “Guantanamo’s still open. There's bombing Libya. There's blowing bin Laden away rather than putting him on trial. Now a few US troops go home, but the US will be occupying Afghanistan until 2014 and beyond. Don’t even get me started on Yemen!” The Committee awarded Obama the coveted prize in 2009 after he made a series of speeches in the first months of his presidency, which convinced the Peace Prize Committee that he was: “creating a new climate of...multilateral diplomacy...an emphasis on the role of the United Nations...of dialogue and negotiations as instruments for resolving international conflicts...and a vision of world free of nuclear arms.” quote:
But, he revealed the committee members were all “legless drunk” the day they voted, as it was the start of Norway’s annual aquavit-tasting festival. The “totally toasted” members listened over and over to replays of Obama’s Cairo speech, tearing up and drinking shots to the glorious future: a black man leading America and the world into a new era of peace, hope and goodwill. “For a few hours we were all 18 year-old students again at the beautiful, occasionally sunny University of Bergen! Oh, how we cried for joy!”
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The White House had no comment. It later announced an aggressive new covert CIA initiative to identify and apprehend Al Qaeda operatives in Scandinavia.
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After reading these quotes I wonder how good an idea it is for heads of states to receive these types of awards while in office? It seems sorta corrupt.
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posted March 08, 2014 02:07 AM
A friend of mine (new neighbor) is into dark art, vampir-ish zombie stuff and her art is risque and sexual. She creates costumes for drag queens, preformers & people into that scene as well.She's a Libra, about 10 yrs older than me and I'm almost positive has Venus (at least) in Scorpio. We clicked immediately even though my taste in art and asthetic is completely opposite to hers. She's a total sweetheart and we've stayed awake on my porch chatting until 3 am more nights than i can count. My art is very......mmm "light" ....dream-like quality....and colorful and Neptunian......completely opposite to what she is into but she still finds it stunning. Her art is very Plutonian. Point is, i've a lot of heavy 8th house placements and Sun conj. Algol,, but am not attracted to anything dark at all. I hate horror movies and anything that is grotesque.....not my cup of tea.... IP: Logged |
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posted March 08, 2014 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by MagnumJoe:
So my moon in 8th house makes me...? What? Darth Vader lol?
Gee, me too. Moon & Pluto in the 8th *hissss* *RAWWwr* lol Unfortunately mine has only manifested in being an intense seeker of truth, quiet and contemplative in general & all the most positive qualities of the Scorpion. Lucky me.  IP: Logged |
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posted March 08, 2014 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
The 26th Degree of Taurus , Calput Algol is said by Ptolemy to be the most evil aspect in astrology, the head of Medusa or the Devil's head.
Might i gently remind you...... Sun conjunct Algol (Born May 17th) Enya Trent Reznor (& me ) Point is, that powerful placement can go from one end of a spectrum to another. I don't like how it usually focusses on the negative. i believe John Lennon also had a prominent personal planet conjunct Algol. Ive noticed it to be an extremely artistic and humanitarian placement. If you can channel the energies to their highest potential they can be a beautiful thing. IP: Logged |
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